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princedimwit
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So, all Tellarites are dwarves?
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/publicity/aliens/archer_tellarites.jpg
No. No they're not.
STO, fix it.
http://ent.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/publicity/aliens/archer_tellarites.jpg
No. No they're not.
STO, fix it.
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Not that I blame them... it eats up their bandwidth.
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I see what you did there.
It isn't my link.
Let the stupid suffer
I know. Ugnaughts were a rip off of Tellarites for sure.
http://img.trekmovie.com/images/lists/thanksfood_tos.jpg
Even in TOS Tellarites were of average height. Dunno why they are dwarves in this game.
Because they are short in ENT.
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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FFXI has Tarutaru, WoW has Gnomes....STO has Tellarites. (I play one).
ROLL TIDE ROLL
*sigh* Obviously you did not look at the screen shot above. They are of avg. height in ENT.
Is that the bottom line Stone Cold?
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Agreed on that.
Star Trek notoriously bad with keeping those details in check.
Hirogen are supposed to be significantly taller then Humans, which they are pretty good about in the first episode they appear in, but in some subsequent episodes Hirogen are people sized.
Personally, I am glad they went with the reference material instead of the inconsistent canon on the subject, it makes aliens feel a bit more diverse and a bit less like funny looking humans.
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In a videogame its easy to make characters of any size, so its good they're going with the way things are supposed to be instead of importing the technical limitations of live-action.
The only viewable screenshot is one from TOS
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
#TASforSTO
'...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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I guess being at space port when I put them off isn't exactly a necessity. We do have torpedo tubes after all and you can purchase an environmental suit for 465 EC in game.
I disagree with this statement. There has only ever been one short Tellarite in the shows and that was Gral.. and even then I don't really consider 5'4" to be that short.
Gaavrin (played by Ed O'Ross) is 6'1"
Gral (played by Lee Arenberg) is 5'4"
Skalaar (played by Jordan Lund) is 6'4"
Naarg (played by Kevin Brief) is 5'9"
2 original Tellarites should be around Kirk's height of 5'9"
So what does this tell us? That Tellarite height is pretty normal. They should never have been made dwarf sized.
If we want to go a bit further.. non-canon stuff (from memory-beta) claims the average height for a Tellarite male is 1.8 meters (5'11") and for a female it's 2.2 meters (7'3").
Just because the average height for a male from Indonesia is 5'2" (as per http://www.disabled-world.com/artman/publish/height-chart.shtml ) does NOT mean that the entire Human race is short. People will vary in height obviously depending on what region they are from amongst other factors.
The Tellarites have always been misrepresented in this game and I really wish it would be fixed because they are one of the FOUNDING MEMBERS of the Federation. They deserve more respect than they are getting. And before someone says that we never saw any in TNG, DS9 or Voyager... even if we didn't.. it doesn't mean they don't exist in Starfleet or elsewhere.. there are tons of Starfleet ships out there.
Vulcans and Tellarites are like elves and dwarves. It fits a pattern.
I'm not that much into High Fantasy but I like to see it mirrored in Star Trek, in a Science Fiction environment,
Yeah but they are NOT that much shorter. I've had to explain to many people not familiar with Trek that started playing that they were not Ugnauts or Dwarves. The Tellarites in STO are extremely short in comparison. This issue has come up several times since launch and we are told that we just make all of our character too tall.
They're definitely less than 5'7" and this is cause I made my Tellarite that height.. as the height numbers are broken in the Tellarite character creator I had to measure it against one of my bridge officers. I think in-game the NPCs are probably around 5'0" or 5'2" which is just too too short. I'd be so much happier if a compromise could be made and they be made five or six inches taller.
If I have to make an analogy (I really don't want to)... Tellarites are pigs in space... NOT Space Dwarves... and the way they look right now in game.. that's how everyone sees them.. nothing but Space Dwarves.
It is non-canon. I threw it in there to show that even there they weren't short.
http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Tellarite#Biology
I doubt that they'd actually be that tall though. It's hard to say as we've never seen a Tellarite female.
What? Who? When? I've never heard of this.
Or pick them up and punt them. (If you've ever played FFXI you get the reference...)
But who couldn't use the purple Tellarite Torpedo Mark XII? (Someone come up with stats for this, quick).
ROLL TIDE ROLL
The shows are canon though and nothing has ever been said in canon that the Tellarites are a short race. Just because one out of six actors was 'short' doesn't mean they all are. And it also doesn't mean that they were intended to be that way otherwise if they were shorter actors would have always been hired to play the parts. It's fine that you like your short Tellarite and that others do as well.. but that trait shouldn't represented throughout the race as it's not how they're supposed to be. Canon doesn't reflect that their are a 'short-only' race.