I think this could be a good idea and could be done via a ingame system or this thread on the Forums:
Here is my calculation that I just posted in another thread - but this deservse it's own thread because it is a different Idea then what the OP of that thread was about.
My time based cost Analysis:
Ok lets use a time based equation = how much time to get EC/FM
The Avg lvl 50 player could do 4 runs of Tour the Universe in 1 hour or $1.4 million
If you do the route from the wiki - there is also another rount where you only do a few blocks but get 200k EC and can do it 10x min or $2 million EC
Lets use the low end of $1.5 million
A good player with 5 toons could run Colony invasion 5 times in 1 hour min for 30 marks each run or 150 marks
so 150 marks = $1.5 million EC on a straight time trade - I could do the tour and get $1.5 million or I could do Colony invasion and hopefully get the same $1.5 million
So each mark would be worth 100k under these conditions
Given that you get some almost worhtless fleet credits back - lets discount that a bit to 1 mark = 7500
So: 1 Mark equals 7500 Ec - less than that well you ar better off running Tour
Now trading Marks would be a good idea - maybe they could have a Fleet mark exchange??
Of course people who have lots and just want to unload would sell for much less - this is just a "Your Time" cost analysis
Im ok with marks being tradable (or keep them character locked and sell fleet mark crates in the cash shop. I think all time gates should be able to be circumvented with cash in a f2p game). However, the price should be determined by the players and not the devs. Plus your math is wrong: daily fleet action + fleet mark boost = 60 marks, each FA takes a MAX of 20min typically more like 15 so in an hour you could earn 180-240 fleet marks
Ignorance is an obstacle not an excuse
Let the stupid suffer
FLEET marks, should be NOT tradeable. ( i know they are with a workaround)
we should NOT be forced to do so. IT IT JUST WRONG.
Cryptic, i prophecied this a day after S7 hit, my small fleet is disbanded and we joined a bigger one, where, i have to admit - it's fun..
But , we still have a problem with fleet marks.. even there..
DOUBLE, TRIPLE the amount of fleet marks from fleet actions and Doffing, give 50 marks to "Officer on the Watch" Daily..
You are on the edge of creating a BIG economy Issue here!
This has been discussed in other threads. People like myself and another named Nightshade have been selling fleet marks to assist smaller and even bigger fleets get the marks they need. I am almost done with my current agreement now. Still, I have felt myself getting burned out on constantly farming marks, but there are others out there if people are still needing marks. We had set a range of about 4k-5k ec a mark if that is all the fleet is willing to offer. There are other arrangements I have settled for such as having full access to things like fleet weapons and ships in exchange for a certain number of fleet marks. So that I do not get sick of the game, I am currently not accepting new customers, but Niteshade might.
As far as fleet mark gathering, I think Cryptic has actually made it slightly easier than before to obtain the marks, but there are more sinks now.
No, I am not who you think I am. I am someone different. I am instead a banana.
FLEET marks, should be NOT tradeable. ( i know they are with a workaround)
we should NOT be forced to do so. IT IT JUST WRONG.
Cryptic, i prophecied this a day after S7 hit, my small fleet is disbanded and we joined a bigger one, where, i have to admit - it's fun..
But , we still have a problem with fleet marks.. even there..
DOUBLE, TRIPLE the amount of fleet marks from fleet actions and Doffing, give 50 marks to "Officer on the Watch" Daily..
You are on the edge of creating a BIG economy Issue here!
It's been almost a month since I created this thread and it's been dug up with 5 days to spare from getting the Zombie title - lol
But seriously - Now more than ever marks seem to be the problem - I suggested many times that the officer of the watch be up to at LEAST 25 marks from 5
If Cryptic won't do this and people are willing to pay others to farm marks for their fleet what is the problem?
The question I want to know is WHY do people contribute to building a sky castle for their dear leader?? Are the Fleet gear better than what you could get for less resources on the exchange? You certainly don't need the fleet ships for anything but PvP and 90% of people in fleets don't PvP - so why are you building dear leader his base?
It's been almost a month since I created this thread and it's been dug up with 5 days to spare from getting the Zombie title - lol
But seriously - Now more than ever marks seem to be the problem - I suggested many times that the officer of the watch be up to at LEAST 25 marks from 5
If Cryptic won't do this and people are willing to pay others to farm marks for their fleet what is the problem?
The question I want to know is WHY do people contribute to building a sky castle for their dear leader?? Are the Fleet gear better than what you could get for less resources on the exchange? You certainly don't need the fleet ships for anything but PvP and 90% of people in fleets don't PvP - so why are you building dear leader his base?
hmm, i am now in a nice fleet with nice people, and i feel good contributing towards a common goal..
AND I DO NEED THE FLEET B'REL.. and some Romulan BOFF's..
that is all the reasons for me now
the weapons? i have bought ONE ground weapon from the fleet store.. thank you, but i do not really need these. Space weapons? Ehm, i am a torpedo boat, and already have MK XII (Borg) stuff.. so ...
Shields/Deflector/Engine? I use KHG and other sets..
DOFF's? I can grind my own.. only buying some when i need them for fleet projects..
Fleet B'rel would be nice - too bad the earliest someone will get one will be March
On a side note I have about 16,000 KDF fleet marks for sale
how much do you want for them? :DD
btw - if cryptic would be fair, the B'rel would be behind T3. I'll get one in an month or two, on one toon, then ill try to buy a second on another toon. Don't need more.. and when i say BUY, i mean BUY.. already having the modules waiting in the bank..
i 've BOUGHT the B'rel from the Zen store for 2000 Zen, EVEN WHEN I PREVIOUSLY GOT IT AS A 600 DAY REWARD, the store showed i am not awarded by the Fleet Module discount!!!
Cash into a T5 fleet, and leave with it.. nothing else..
It's been almost a month since I created this thread and it's been dug up with 5 days to spare from getting the Zombie title - lol
But seriously - Now more than ever marks seem to be the problem - I suggested many times that the officer of the watch be up to at LEAST 25 marks from 5
If Cryptic won't do this and people are willing to pay others to farm marks for their fleet what is the problem?
The question I want to know is WHY do people contribute to building a sky castle for their dear leader?? Are the Fleet gear better than what you could get for less resources on the exchange? You certainly don't need the fleet ships for anything but PvP and 90% of people in fleets don't PvP - so why are you building dear leader his base?
Because its a goal that is visible and defined. Why do people in other MMOs continue to raid after they clear the instance? To get gear. Why do they want gear when they clearly dont need it (seeing as they cleared the raid)? Because it gives purpose to logging in and playing. Gaming is about story and goals, when the story isnt there (whether it be because the story is stupid, or the story isnt advancing) goals become the driving force (achievement unlocked! Spent 200 hours playing halo!). The more visual and personal the goal, the better. Making it a team based goal is a bonus because it allows people to feel like they are part of something larger than themselves (providing everyone is contributing and there arent any freeloaders)
Ignorance is an obstacle not an excuse
Let the stupid suffer
btw - if cryptic would be fair, the B'rel would be behind T3. I'll get one in an month or two, on one toon, then ill try to buy a second on another toon. Don't need more.. and when i say BUY, i mean BUY.. already having the modules waiting in the bank..
Cash into a T5 fleet, and leave with it.. nothing else..
KDF fleet marks should demand a premium - they are the most scarce and most in demand.
Even House of Beautiful Orions can't have a T5 shipyard before Feb -it's mathimatically Impossible I think.
I wonder what the T5 Fleet mark upgrade costs are?
Because its a goal that is visible and defined. Why do people in other MMOs continue to raid after they clear the instance? To get gear. Why do they want gear when they clearly dont need it (seeing as they cleared the raid)? Because it gives purpose to logging in and playing. Gaming is about story and goals, when the story isnt there (whether it be because the story is stupid, or the story isnt advancing) goals become the driving force (achievement unlocked! Spent 200 hours playing halo!). The more visual and personal the goal, the better. Making it a team based goal is a bonus because it allows people to feel like they are part of something larger than themselves (providing everyone is contributing and there arent any freeloaders)
Well I don't know about your prospective, but from mine - Season 7 made a big leap forward to a more solo style of grind - making fleets more useless.
KDF fleet marks should demand a premium - they are the most scarce and most in demand.
Even House of Beautiful Orions can't have a T5 shipyard before Feb -it's mathimatically Impossible I think.
I wonder what the T5 Fleet mark upgrade costs are?
no idea ill mark this thread and will contact you in case i win a lottery
so they will have it in Feb.. then i have time with contributing AND lvling that toon im not allowed into their shop yet, need 75k marks, im at some 60k now ..
planning on an uber PVP Romulan styled male toon.. Very stylish.. they will actually TRIBBLE me off when they release a Romulan faction, cause ill have to start again
(kidding, i would DELETE all my toons and play only Romulan Foundry)
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But I don't know any game that allows the trade of marks, the marks is a way to make sure the players throw time in the game...
Let the stupid suffer
we should NOT be forced to do so. IT IT JUST WRONG.
Cryptic, i prophecied this a day after S7 hit, my small fleet is disbanded and we joined a bigger one, where, i have to admit - it's fun..
But , we still have a problem with fleet marks.. even there..
DOUBLE, TRIPLE the amount of fleet marks from fleet actions and Doffing, give 50 marks to "Officer on the Watch" Daily..
You are on the edge of creating a BIG economy Issue here!
As far as fleet mark gathering, I think Cryptic has actually made it slightly easier than before to obtain the marks, but there are more sinks now.
It's been almost a month since I created this thread and it's been dug up with 5 days to spare from getting the Zombie title - lol
But seriously - Now more than ever marks seem to be the problem - I suggested many times that the officer of the watch be up to at LEAST 25 marks from 5
If Cryptic won't do this and people are willing to pay others to farm marks for their fleet what is the problem?
The question I want to know is WHY do people contribute to building a sky castle for their dear leader?? Are the Fleet gear better than what you could get for less resources on the exchange? You certainly don't need the fleet ships for anything but PvP and 90% of people in fleets don't PvP - so why are you building dear leader his base?
hmm, i am now in a nice fleet with nice people, and i feel good contributing towards a common goal..
AND I DO NEED THE FLEET B'REL.. and some Romulan BOFF's..
that is all the reasons for me now
the weapons? i have bought ONE ground weapon from the fleet store.. thank you, but i do not really need these. Space weapons? Ehm, i am a torpedo boat, and already have MK XII (Borg) stuff.. so ...
Shields/Deflector/Engine? I use KHG and other sets..
DOFF's? I can grind my own.. only buying some when i need them for fleet projects..
Another rewards? Are there any?
Fleet B'rel would be nice - too bad the earliest someone will get one will be March
On a side note I have about 16,000 KDF fleet marks for sale
how much do you want for them? :DD
btw - if cryptic would be fair, the B'rel would be behind T3. I'll get one in an month or two, on one toon, then ill try to buy a second on another toon. Don't need more.. and when i say BUY, i mean BUY.. already having the modules waiting in the bank..
i 've BOUGHT the B'rel from the Zen store for 2000 Zen, EVEN WHEN I PREVIOUSLY GOT IT AS A 600 DAY REWARD, the store showed i am not awarded by the Fleet Module discount!!!
Cash into a T5 fleet, and leave with it.. nothing else..
Because its a goal that is visible and defined. Why do people in other MMOs continue to raid after they clear the instance? To get gear. Why do they want gear when they clearly dont need it (seeing as they cleared the raid)? Because it gives purpose to logging in and playing. Gaming is about story and goals, when the story isnt there (whether it be because the story is stupid, or the story isnt advancing) goals become the driving force (achievement unlocked! Spent 200 hours playing halo!). The more visual and personal the goal, the better. Making it a team based goal is a bonus because it allows people to feel like they are part of something larger than themselves (providing everyone is contributing and there arent any freeloaders)
Let the stupid suffer
KDF fleet marks should demand a premium - they are the most scarce and most in demand.
Even House of Beautiful Orions can't have a T5 shipyard before Feb -it's mathimatically Impossible I think.
I wonder what the T5 Fleet mark upgrade costs are?
Well I don't know about your prospective, but from mine - Season 7 made a big leap forward to a more solo style of grind - making fleets more useless.
no idea ill mark this thread and will contact you in case i win a lottery
so they will have it in Feb.. then i have time with contributing AND lvling that toon im not allowed into their shop yet, need 75k marks, im at some 60k now ..
planning on an uber PVP Romulan styled male toon.. Very stylish.. they will actually TRIBBLE me off when they release a Romulan faction, cause ill have to start again
(kidding, i would DELETE all my toons and play only Romulan Foundry)
no, not really..
I mostly solo/ solo-queue anyway so i havent noticed.
Let the stupid suffer