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Which season will address..

pilot99pilot99 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
exploration? I really wanna know! Cryptic?
Massive grinding for building starbases in season 6 wasn't exactly my kind of gameplay so I took the opportunity to log out for a while. The whole thing looked to me as some kind of digital doll-houses. I have not logged in yet to take a peek on season 7. More lockboxes and grinding for gear right?

Where is the Star Trek immersion? Is there a slightest chance to log in to the game and be able to chart unexplored space and find new civilizations in a not too distant future?
Its all about money, am i right? I would pay the famous 80 bucks for any expansion containing exploration, in this or any other Star Trek game
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  • frontline2042frontline2042 Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I really dont get the hate on the current exploration system (minus the lack of rewards for doing them). I leveled up doing them way back. But if the current explore system isnt your cup of tea, I'm sure there are foundry missions that are exploration based. I have a challenge for you: design an exploration system that is not repetitive and can't simply be 'f'd through and isnt as irritating as the trade negotiations mission on starbase 39.
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  • kobayashlmarukobayashlmaru Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Be careful what you ask for. Everything Cryptic has "revamped" since F2P has turned the feature into a grind type system with added fluff to help monetize it. If the Season 6 / 7 gameplay isn't your type of thing, you probably won't like what they do to revamp exploration.

    As frontline recommended, you are probably better off working with the foundry.
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    frontline2042 wrote: »
    I really dont get the hate on the current exploration system (minus the lack of rewards for doing them). I leveled up doing them way back. But if the current explore system isnt your cup of tea, I'm sure there are foundry missions that are exploration based. I have a challenge for you: design an exploration system that is not repetitive and can't simply be 'f'd through and isnt as irritating as the trade negotiations mission on starbase 39.


    It's simple, people hate the current exploration system, because it's not exploration. It's just some random mission generated missions that are of a set of like 30 missions, so you repeat the same thing over and over and over again.

    The Foundry is much better when it comes to storylines, but still its not exploration. You are not discovering new life or new civilizations.



    When it comes to true exploration, I could see elements of both these ideas where you are traveling in space and encounter a random star system. And the system creates a new solar system with random planets you have to investigate and hone on that one world that's the focus of the story.

    And with the Foundry, I could see authors being given an area or territory, where they could create their new race and build stories upon them to keep players interested in staying there a while. And taking that further, a group of authors could get together and maybe work as a co-op for that one particular race and make a ton of mission content. Or one author can create a rival civilization and you have somekind of conflict you are stumbling across.

    That's my idea of what STO should be.



    But I will say this, it's funny that there are 25 year old PC games out there that has more exploration. So Cryptic has quite the challenge ahead to fill this needed void.
    kobayashlmaru wrote: »
    Be careful what you ask for. Everything Cryptic has "revamped" since F2P has turned the feature into a grind type system with added fluff to help monetize it. If the Season 6 / 7 gameplay isn't your type of thing, you probably won't like what they do to revamp exploration.

    I really hope they don't, because they just killed the fun with Season 7's grind. It's completely overloaded me that I have no time to do what I want to do in STO. In short, they turned this game from fun into a job where you don't get paid.
  • sharyssasharyssa Member Posts: 157 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    azurianstar wrote: »
    In short, they turned this game from fun into a job where you don't get paid.

    LOL...try EVE Online for a "job" that you don't get paid for. ;)
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
  • bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The season after they fix PvP
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
    I drink, I vote, and I PvP!
  • frontline2042frontline2042 Member Posts: 219 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I doubt the exploration in those games were created on the fly like they would have to be here (the system would need to support people doing this for hundreds of hours). Just to make sure im on the same page here on your idea the gameplay would work something like this: zone in, scan the first planet for life/resources, scan its moon(s) if present, warp to next planet, repeat until life is found. Make first contact/ file report on pre-warp civilization. Repeat until out of planets?
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  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    IF there would be an exploration which is unique to every toon, it would be a single player expansion, or a fleet undertaking... OR, exploration a'la New Romulus = adventure Zone.

    no way there will be constant cluster you could "chart" with more than 10 systems, as is now..

    BUT, they COULD add more episode missions, one-time-story missions to existing planets, like patrols, but a bit more "unique"..
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  • twg042370twg042370 Member Posts: 2,312 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    azurianstar wrote: »
    It's simple, people hate the current exploration system, because it's not exploration. It's just some random mission generated missions that are of a set of like 30 missions, so you repeat the same thing over and over and over again.

    I feel the problem isn't the mechanic itself. It's the limited variety being offered. Each type should have far more maps and goals than what is on offer right now. Click/shoot/scan five or give away ten.

    How about a "click one that's on a hill you can't easily reach and have to go find the path up." or "Find the hidden pirate in the ship graveyard" Why isn't there a Klingon warship in orbit as well as having troops on the base? Does the ground really need to have a path leading from one lifeform to the next?

    Maybe it's a weakness of the coding that makes the random maps to begin with. But I'd like to see more variety in the patrol missions as well.
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  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    I'd like to see at least one or two interactions with a planet that aren't "I need 10 <<insert name of commodity>>" followed by "wow you're a hero".

    How about "we need a stack of 10 heavy space turrets to protect us from the evil pirates in the next system" Part 2 "hey those guys over there just dropped heavy space turrets in orbit and are bombarding our cities, who are they and why are they killing us?"

    I mean, why is first contact all about giving them 10 commodities? They never lie cheat, steal, or ask for more than you can easily carry?

    Be cool if you had to do some specific doff missions like in the ambassadors on Deep Space 9 portion of "the 2098" featured series story. Send your doffs to do a few tasks, while you blast a few enemies (either space or ground) and/or do a couple scanns, then another dialog.

    Sigh. That's the trouble with wants, it's so easy to ask for everything haha.
  • captainlimcaptainlim Member Posts: 62 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    well, cryptic could give exploration skills to good use. When you reached the highest level of exploration, it will unlock an exploration area like the gamma quadrant. It would be cool though.
  • born2bwild1born2bwild1 Member Posts: 1,329 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    bubblygumsworth wrote: »
    The season after they fix PvP

    You are truely a comedian!! Why be "cryptic" in your answer and just give a straight answer: never!
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