test content
Logo
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc
Anti-borg MK XII Space Weapons
darthpostal
Member Posts: 245 Arc User
I looked through Omega Reputation tier unlocks and I see no MK XII Space weapons mentioned anywhere...
So, how do I get them in Season 7?
Sorry if this was answered before. I searched this forum and found nothing.
So, how do I get them in Season 7?
Sorry if this was answered before. I searched this forum and found nothing.
Post edited by Unknown User on
0
Comments
I could have sworn I saw space weapons listed before, but checking it now, all I see are the cutting beam array and the Omega torpedo launcher.
Man, am I glad I managed to fill out all my Mk XII anti-borg weapons before S7...
THis is basically the case.
Pugs R Us fleet completed a 5 man cure space elite optional run in 3:42 seconds and hold the record for fastest optional run on CSE. They used borg flag weapons and good luck beating their record if you do not.
And for those that do not believe that anybody could knock down an opt win in 3:42 for CSE - well they posted the run on Youtube. I think they still have their 2 man cse win posted up for others to watch.
Free Borg flag weapons were great for players. Before they arrived rare mk xii blue space weapons were selling for 5 million each on the exchange. Once mk xii purples arrived for free the price catered and even casual players could afford good gear if not free gear.
Just so much to hate about the removal of salvage and loot drops from stfs. There is going to be a re-emergence of price inflation back into the game and we will see setbacks to season 4 pricing on the exchange.
If the Borg flags were not working then just maybe Cryptic could have fixed it rather than nerfing away the weapons forever.
That's all well and good, but perhaps you could point me to somewhere in-game that isn't the Exchange or a Fleet Starbase where I can buy some purple Mk XII weapons?
I think the point is, once you get full Omega Rep, you won't *need* those purple anti-borg weapons because you'll have any/all of the skills those anti-borg things could do, but as passives.
Which, if that's the case, I actually like *better*.
Would those passives stack with a [Borg] modifier on our weapons, making ships with those weapons amazing Borg-killers?
And the point you're missing is *what* weapons are you going to use with that mod? Currently the only non-Fleet weapons available to purchase with Dilithium or craft are Mk XI.
If you were to level up a brand new alt now, your only end-game weapon options are either Mk XI's, extortionately-priced Mk XII's off the Exchange (which will only increase in price since STFs no longer drop them) or Fleet Weapons (= lots of Fleet Credits + Dilithium).
I don't consider the taking away of the [Borg] Mk XII's *better* (even if they were effectively blues outside of Borg content) since there's no reasonable alternative in place.
JustGaming4US - https://www.youtube.com/user/JustGaming4Us/
Twitter - https://twitter.com/Brent_Justice
Patreon - https://www.patreon.com/brentjustice
CSE Optional in just under 5 minutes without killing the nanites first
And the 'working' procs were [Acc] and [CrtH] - good procs to have. Even the 'broken' [Borg] proc works against specific Borg NPCs (cubes, spheres, probes) - heck, the proc was 100% effective on Torpedos against those enemies.
Maybe if it were [Acc] [CrtH] [Dmg] but since the Borg weapons are Mk XII's without the [Dmg] mod they'd be effectively weaker (I won't get into the whole [Acc]x3 debate here). Also, for things like Anti-Protons, Phasers and Disruptors, those Mk XI very-rare aren't cheap and the Dilithium store sells some very poor variants that cost 22,000 Dilithium a piece.
I'd rather have Blue Mk XII's freely available than no Mk XII's available. And before the Omega conversion I had around 40 Proto Salvage - that stuff dropped like rain.
All I'm saying is that the Borg weapons worked fine for STFs, they were better than most Mk XI gear and more readily available (and much cheaper) than Exchange Mk XII's or Fleet weapons - and now they're gone - and the alternatives are either weaker or far more expensive.
Fleet weapons are nice but they shouldn't be the ony option for high end gear.
Same here. With FAs only dropping Mk XI loot and Fleet Advancement system still hating small fleets, the average player lost ANY chance of getting MK XII weapons.
Of course, now we have Romulan Mk XII plasma weapons. But plasma will not work in STFs like Infected Space. You down your generator to 10% and the plasma DoT kills it. Failed optional is failed.
Bottom line is, they should have fixed [Borg] proc instead of removing the weapons all together.
You don't MKXII Borg Weapons for Elite STF. White XI are good enough. You won't break any DPS records and your error margin is much lower but is doable.
Besides you can get cheap MKXI purple weapons from the exchange OR gather them in den Fleet actions like Minefield, Starbase 24 etc.
Let's be fair here - this is how 90% of games work. You kill [x] to get gear that allows you to better kill [x].
2) As for wanting a "free" store for a reliable source of MK XII gear, forget about it.
Cryptic has said they want to make "very rare" stuff actually be "very rare" (or at least make it less common). They also want to make money.
You'll now only ever find "elite" gear "locked" behind grind-barriers such as the Reputation or Fleet systems or in the Pay-to-Win Z-Store.
That's Star Trek Online: Free-to-Play. You're welcome.
3) As for the Catch-22 point, that you need to do the missions to get the Elite gear, but you need the Elite gear to do the missions... Well you really don't. You can complete STFs without the gear (though it may be harder). And the point of continuing the STFs once you get the gear is that loot can then be used as a dilithium source.
You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
Based on this post, I'd say they never actually worked right. I can't find their post, but a member of my fleet parsed it out and found that the [Borg] modifier added about 7.5 DPS to a weapon when it did work. That's not exactly earth-shattering.
Here's some reading material on the subject of gear requirements for Elite STFs.
That "Black Friday Sale Advanced Escort of Winning" build is pretty cool. If 3k is supposed to be the "basic" and his 5k is considered "good"... I wonder what kind of DPS my ship is putting out... Do you know what "parser" he's using to get this picture, he posted?
Also, do you know, does the [Borg] tag also not work for ground or is it good there?
You can find/contact me in game as @PatricianVetinari. Playing STO since Feb 2010.
http://advancedcombattracker.com/ parser
No the borg space 1000 dmg proc still works, I get it all the time when running STF's.
I guess Cryptic decided that, now that F2P has been around for a while, they no longer need to stand by that statement.
I only wish I had known about the switch. I would have gotten a few more purple weapons and traded the rest in for dilithium.
There will always be better gear at some point in the future. Assuming that there won't be or that you'll keep your gear for a year or so is a mistake on your part. When they raise the level cap probably in two or three seasons from now, I am sure Mk XIV will be the new hotness. I just wish there was a way to recoup something from them except for low amounts of EC.
That is just how it works. I know that for most people this is their first MMO and I am here for Trek not another MMO, but it's always like that. Every new type push of end game content brings more new gear to get.
Can't wait to see everyone's reaction if Tier 5 ships ever becomes completely obsolete... at least they give you a discount for some Tier 5.5 ships.
Well, [Borg] sort of works. Sometimes. It's just that it doesn't work all of the time, and when it does work, it's in line with other weapon procs- a relatively weak effect overall. They're not bad weapons, and you put a lot of effort into getting them, so... maybe phase them out over time as better stuff comes along.
It's called ACT. It's a very complicated program, but a fleetmate of mine (again) wrote out a pretty good guide.
The "3k DPS" figure is from a pretty simple calculation of the amount of hit points everything that needs to die in a STF has, vs. the time limit for getting the optional. So we figure 3k as a floor figure for everyone in the team.
AFAIK the [Borg] mod on ground weapons was just a flat kinetic damage boost against Borg, and the Anti-Borg weapons still available through the Omega Rep system are unchanged. That's simple enough that even Cryptic couldn't TRIBBLE it up.
EDIT: Bummer, looks like there aren't any space weapons at all in the omega rep, except for the set pieces.
The Romulan weapons are Plasma-Disruptor hybrids, too. Plasma damage, both procs, available in [acc]x2 form. They're pretty nice, if you're into that sort of thing.
I think (or hope) Cryptic plans to use future reputation systems to make a wide variety of such weapons available.