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SciFi cross over #1:How different would Star Trek be, if Jedis were in that Universe?

hawkwing43hawkwing43 Member Posts: 1,701 Arc User
edited December 2012 in Ten Forward
Ok Lets just say for whatever reason, Jedis as you know them turned up in the Star Wars universe. Maybe Q finds out about them, while viewing the different universes, and figures how interesting these beings are. Then POOF he moves a few into The Trek Universe, right before the time of 1st contact on Earth. He takes 5 random human Jedis from the Clone Wars, right before they are killed in battle, and drops them in right when the TNG crew beams out, and Cochrane is about to meet the Vulcans.

By doing this move, Q has infected the Universe with the Force, and other worlds gain a few force infused people. Along with a few governments like:

The Klingon Empire

The Romulan Star Empire

The Ferengi Alliance

The Cardassian Union

note: Things will still go forward like before, but now you have the Jedis in the mix of things. How do you see Trek History moving forward with this one change in the timeline?
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Massive deaths until Mc Coy finds a way to treat "midichlorian infestation"
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  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Kai Winn uses her Sith powers to cut Benjamin Sisko in half with a red lightsaber. Then she electrocutes Odo to death with lightning.

    Then she mounts a huge death laser on DS9 and goes out to conquer the known galaxy. My god this story arc would have been SO much better!
  • hawkwing43hawkwing43 Member Posts: 1,701 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Geez I forgot to add a few people on Earth would gain Force power, and the 5 Jedis would teach them the ways of the force. So that would give them a leg up on everyone else. hehe.

    The Benjamin Sisko thing kamiyama317 is talking about, wouldn't happen that easy if you had Jedis Serving in the Federation. lol
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Jedi would not be allowed in starfleet

    they would be hunted down and sent for medical treatment (Jedi powers are caused by a parasite)
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  • daveynydaveyny Member Posts: 8,227 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Yeah..., just like they found a DNA Enhanced Dr. Bashir at a very young age and fixed him...

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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    had bashir been caught and fixed many lives would have been saved

    the same with Khan had he been fixed there would have been no problem
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  • kamiyama317kamiyama317 Member Posts: 1,295 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Wait Dr Bashir was a murderer? I didn't know that... and I watched the series.
  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    oh yes
    Bashir had blood on his hands
    (watch it again you then have an excuse to check out Kira and Dax)
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  • majortiraomegamajortiraomega Member Posts: 2,214 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    hawkwing43 wrote: »
    Ok Lets just say for whatever reason, Jedis as you know them turned up in the Star Wars universe. Maybe Q finds out about them, while viewing the different universes, and figures how interesting these beings are. Then POOF he moves a few into The Trek Universe, right before the time of 1st contact on Earth. He takes 5 random human Jedis from the Clone Wars, right before they are killed in battle, and drops them in right when the TNG crew beams out, and Cochrane is about to meet the Vulcans.

    By doing this move, Q has infected the Universe with the Force, and other worlds gain a few force infused people. Along with a few governments like:

    The Klingon Empire

    The Romulan Star Empire

    The Ferengi Alliance

    The Cardassian Union

    note: Things will still go forward like before, but now you have the Jedis in the mix of things. How do you see Trek History moving forward with this one change in the timeline?

    Well, if the USS Enterprise E is still in orbit, the sensors officer will detect the entities from another universe. Due to the fact that they just got done fighting borg, it is highly likely they would be looking for any more of these anomalies. Therefore, the crew would abort the time warp to investigate. Upon learning of Q's actions, Picard will be very displeased (to say the least...) With no other choice, the timeline has now been altered, Picard would beam the Jedi into the brig and go back to the present, preventing any further timeline contamination.

    The Star Trek universe does not contain any midichlorians. Assuming the USS Enterprise's transporters don't screen them out as a pathogen, they will spread. It is also possible for them to have spread in the past with that brief contact on Earth. The Force is unusable until the midichlorians spread far enough. Upon learning of the spreading midichlorians each race will react differently.

    The Klingon Empire will fear it and treat it like a plague. Think about it, the force allows for deception (through mind tricks), telekinetic powers, and increased agility. The first trait alone will enrage the Klingons. They will attempt to "cure" it by working on a device that destroys it or nullifies it.

    The Romulan Star Empire will study the force and attempt to adapt it for their own purposes. The Tal Shiar will experiment and test it in their espionage tactics. If it is found to be viable, it is likely they will adapt it for all of their missions.

    The Ferengi Alliance...yeah...we all know what they would do with it. A biological entity that allows them to read their customers minds? I see every Ferengi in the galaxy lining up to obtain the force.

    The Cardassians will use the force to obtain information from captives. It is likely they will mainly use it for torture and confusing the minds of their prisoners.

    The Federation will view the force as a sentient lifeform and attempt to get the Jedi back to their universe. Assuming Q is willing to help (he probably won't simply because he is enjoying himself), then Q will simply revert everything he did. Now if Q isn't willing to help...Starfleet will call Sisco to "persuade" him. A few punches to the face later, Q decides the whole thing isn't fun anymore, so he reverts everything.
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  • redrickyredricky Member Posts: 1,004 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Depends on which timeline Q pulls them from, the one where Lucas has it satisfyingly vague in a zen mysticism sort of way, or the one where Lucas has two decades to think about how to TRIBBLE up what he made and gets irritatingly specific. Obi Wan McGuinnes describing it as an energy field or the one with Qwi Gon Neeson prattling about midichlorians?

    The movies, and therefore canon, suggest that the force can be localized in strength or composition, which supports the expanded universe which contains locations and people which are dead to the force, locations in which Jedi cannot access the force and races which are "force immune." This suggests that a handful of Jedi who were bamfed into the ST universe would find themselves cut off from the force, and would likely lop off their own toes the moment they activated their lightsaber.

    Or Q could just be like "**** it, it was funny to have Picard meet Xavier, midichlorians for everybody!"

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  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    The Federation will quickly attempt to locate those with force powers and control them thus making the Federation "the Empire", the Romulans and Klingons will try to subdue the force weilders but learn that they can't, and join them in their epic war against the empire. The borg will simply be taken over by the mind control powers in force weilders and also aid in the struggle against the oppressive imperial forces.
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  • hawkwing43hawkwing43 Member Posts: 1,701 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    lordmalak1 that sounds more like something the mirror universe would do, and in that case it wouldn't be Jedis but Sith in stead. lol As far as the origin 5 getting beamed on the enterprise and tossed in the brig. I don't see that happening so easy. With all their powers, that might be a very bad move on there part. Plus the fact Q might hide them from Picard in the 1st place, so he can effect the timeline to see what happens.

    I can see 1 or 2 new Jedis being part of a Captain Archer's crew, and helping to keep that crew safe. Maybe they would find more new Jedis along the way, or even new Sith that are spawned from these other worlds.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited December 2012
    It's Jedi not Jedis;)

    Um it would make no difference to the story at all.
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  • winstonandarwinstonandar Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    Knowing Cryptic, there'd be Jedi officers and Sith fighter pets. The player would encounter the force in friendly and non-friendly ways, as follows:

    FRIENDLY WAYS:
    Player approaches an enemy ship. At a range of 10 km, the player moves his mouse over the skill bar or tries to press his skill hotbar key. A dialogue box appears:

    Tactical Officer Jinn Gon Qui: All abilities mapped to 'Z' on the keyboard have been activated. May the force be with you.

    UNFRIENDLY WAYS:
    The player is fighting an enemy ship and the hull strength is down to 25%. The player wants to repair his hull and moves to click on or press the hotkey activating engineering skills.

    Engineering Officer Kinobi Wan Obi: All engineering abilities have been continuously activated ever since the battle began. They are currently on cooldown. May the force TRIBBLE with you.

    ----

    The Sith Fighter pets would be totally independent and single minded. When the carrier orders attack / retreat patterns, the result could be friendly or unfriendly.

    FRIENDLY RESULT:
    Fighter Sidius the Darth: They shall be melted into lava and blown to bits before your royal dark posterior! We shall bend the Pe'taqs! Join the Dark Side today. Call 1800...

    UNFRIENDLY RESULT:
    Fighter Tine Palpa: Retreat? Do you follow the semi-darkside of the force? What the hell is RETREAT? Charge! Throw our lives away in sheer folly! To hell with living! Q'apla!

    ----

    The C-Store and Cryptic Devs would also be transformed, thanks to prolonged exposure to the force. This will result in positive and negative effects.

    POSITIVE EFFECTS:
    Master Yoda Stahl.D: The force is in the Defense Force unbalanced. Ensure the creation of content timely and satisfy the players we shall. Balance shall we restore. May the force our creativity power!

    NEGATIVE EFFECTS:
    Mistress Darth Investor: How can we justify not milking juicy wallets? RAISE THE COSTS! Put ALL the ships in LOCKBOXES... EXPENSIVE LOCKBOXES! MORE ZEN SALES! MORE MORE!

    C-STORE ADD-ONS:
    1. Ferengi Bargain Mind Bender: With a 1 hr cooldown, this handy item will convince exchange shoppers that your items are priced as 1 EC each and will rip them off for 1 Billion EC, when they buy the item. If they don't have that much EC on them, it'll give you a mortgage over their ship, until they pay off the ECs in instalments, with interest.

    2. Undine Psyonic Force Throw: Fixed in the garbage recycler slot of your tactical escort, this unique force device will allow you to throw items from the Gamma quadrant to the Alpha quadrant. Why that source and that destination? Ask the Force. Accuracy is not guaranteed, although this console does carry CritDx5 and CritHx10 modifiers.

    3. Ablative Thought Powered Armor: Equipped in Turret and Cannon slots, this console provides 100% resistance to kinetic and all energy damage. However, it requires that you equip the console in ALL WEAPON SLOTS. Pacifists and spiritual aspirants are ideal buyers.

    4. Credit Card Usage Console: Automatically buys zenny for you, without your knowledge, using your retirement savings. The Force will mimic your voice for telephone banking, your password and username for internet banking, and create a powerful duplicate, who will sign your cheques and demand drafts in your name. The duplicate will not, however, act for you in the bedroom. Not refundable and cannot be deactivated, once it is used.

    Such is the consequence of two dimensions mingling. Down this path, one walks only once, for there is no return.

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  • captrayvenwingcaptrayvenwing Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    To screwed up to think about
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  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    AvP is the only time I want to see genres merge and even then the movies sucked, Jedi's in Star Trek?, no, No, evil, kill it, kill it with fire.
    In Star Trek faster than light travel and artificial intelligence is still a growing technology and has only been available for a few centuries, in Star Wars the technology has plateaued and has been commonplace for millennia.
    Star Trek has subspace, Star Wars has hyperspace
    Star Trek has transporters, Star Wars has lots of robots
    The genres are just too different
    Star trek already has races with psionic abilities, we don't need psychic warrior priests wandering around.
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