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psycoticvulcan
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The STFs started out as super-long missions with both ground and space components. When they were remastered, they were split into separate ground and space missions that last around 15-20 minutes each. An Elite version was added as well.
While the STFs are now much less grindy, I think the separate versions kind of sacrifice the story of the missions. Do you think they should re-merge the ground and space missions to fix this? This would presumably make each STF around 30-40 minutes long. And of course they'd have to double the rewards.
Just a thought from someone experiencing the STFs for the first time.
While the STFs are now much less grindy, I think the separate versions kind of sacrifice the story of the missions. Do you think they should re-merge the ground and space missions to fix this? This would presumably make each STF around 30-40 minutes long. And of course they'd have to double the rewards.
Just a thought from someone experiencing the STFs for the first time.
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No. Ground combat is horrible. Im already forced to do too much of it.
No, IMO it's not the best idea to re-merge the STF's, the STF's before they were split took much longer than 30 or 40 minutes to complete, even if the team was a good one. At least that was my experience when the fleet I was in ran them, the Cure took about one and a half to 2 hours to complete, even though the team was a good one with an experienced leader and good followers.
That and I have more of a preference for Space Combat ATM
What I mean is, merge the ground and space STFs as they are now. Since the individual ones as they are now take 15 minutes each, combined it would by 30 minutes.
But I get what you mean about preferring space combat. I think most of us do.
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The Hive, for instance, is very unclear on which is actually first? I'm not even sure we actually beat the queen.
I liked the STF's more when they were together. We have no true raid like content, which is fun to do for many. There's still Terradome, which I believe is still buggy as hell, but it's not integrated to the STF system and is apparently forgotten.
I'm really not into the whole grind and casual focus of this game. I want to have fun, with my fleet, but there's really no point to it.
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They were that way before and many people avoided them because of that.
Let people play what they want to.
Us Space Rangers will hold the high ground while you Ground Pounders keep us safe down there.
If Cryptic were to merge them, I would stop playing stfs altogether.
I agree with the previous poster though. How about SOME combined ones?
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The Hive is Ground>Space.
You get snuck onboard the unimatrix to combat the queen then when you beat her physical body she moves her conciousness into the Dodecahedron, it's (purposely) unclear about whether she's (permanently) dead or not.
no. ground combat is horrible. go away.
And to have them viable, Cryptic could put back in unique rewards so they be played once in a while.
Ideally, I would like to see something that combines the gameplay of like Mine Trap with the space incursions.
Just add extra STF missions that are merged BUT with much greater rewards, and even bonus dillitium or marks for completion time.
If players don't want to spend much time on their game, then don't play the merged, instead play the regular mission.
Raid-like, I guess, but still for only 5 people.
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110% agree.
To op, terrible idea (no offense). If the current reputation system didn't exist this would be a novel idea. But right now its like asking the dev's how can you take a long/silly/ridiculous grind and make it even longer and more ridiculous.
These are kind of what I was suggesting.
I don't want the old "2-hour mega-grind STFs" back any more than the rest of you do, but a 30-minute ground and space mission wouldn't be too bad. In fact, it would be much like the current episode missions (except more intense).
And the original ground and space ones would remain intact as well, for players who prefer one over the other.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
For the retro STFs the reward would be the retro Borg gear just as it was before. I am really disappointed that the Borg set got modified. I realize the original Borg set was nearly overpowering but this was the situation way back in season 2 and it was never dealt with. Oh sure they nerfed the RSP but didn't change the Borg set and now probably because someone got killed by a simple and yet creative modified build PWE decided to change the Borg set. Okay changes have been occurring dramatically since season 3 I can still almost adapt some more but it is creating a lot of frustration in myself and my fleet mates. Sorry I digress, originally I thought this would be the only way to get the Borg set but then realized most of the STO community would collectively groan. Then I thought why not? Let the new people experience the retro STFs as we, those that have been here since launch, the veterans have experienced it in all its glory with the same benefits. I am sure the complaining of the present day STFs will drop dramatically if anyone decided to try the retro STFs. Although there would probably be that ultra small portion, .0025%, of the STO community that would go around saying "That wasn't hard." Well...we won't talk about them here.
Then there was Terradome before it got nerfed. It was 5 versus 500. The first statement anyone made was "Why won't these ships die?" Followed by the "I've been watching this group for 5 minutes and none of these guys have flipped a coin yet". To "Holy cow there's a lot of Undine in here!" "Don't shoot the sacks hanging from the ceiling" was a common statement. Followed by the "Who aggro'd the room?" statement. I was playing Terradome with a fleet mate and some others that had formed a team in Gamma Orinis. We had gotten into the end room and started shooting the Sulu's and the Undine when my fleet mate started screaming "the sky is falling the sky is falling!" While shooting wildly into the hordes of Undine I became confused and said "What?" In a adrenalized caffeinated moment he frantically replied "Look up Undine Rangers!" I looked up to see a hundred Undine drop down from the ceiling. Good times good times.
I propose that the retro STFs be re-vitalized. The present day STFs would be a stepping stone to reach the retro STFs. Why? Simply put you would need the Borg gear to do the retro STFs to get the Borg space gear. Any veteran player will tell you that the Borg space gear is the essential to anyone's collection of space gear. If any limitations were to be imposed in access to the retro STFs then one should complete the MACO Team Specialist accolade. Although I hardly think it would be necessary since those who are fortunate to have the Mk XII drops will complete this accolade voluntarily. I'm still waiting for mine says the little blue guy as he goes forth onto the grind. In addition to the Borg space gear I propose that the rewards consist of 2000 dilithium and with 7000 xp. Both which are essential to the construction of the star bases. Nuff said.