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Issue w/ Borg Plasma Torps & Assimilated 2 piece hull heal

ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
Let's start with a snippet of a post from Borticus:
I suspect that the reason players are seeing more Hull Damage, may actually be attributable to the changes made to the Assimilated Ship set.

Many players have chosen to try different equipment sets in light of those alterations, and may have been heavily reliant upon the 2-piece Hull Heal proc, which also cleansed Plasma Fires.

Note: Emphasis mine.

I checked this over the holiday weekend and none of the 2-piece Hull Heal procs were cleansing Plasma Fires.

I checked across 5 different characters with the 2-piece Deflector/Engines slotted.

The Hull Plasma Proc was labeled "Plasma Torpedo" and the Icon was present and remained present (as did the actual on screen display damage report) of this Plasma procs while the Hull Heal proc was running simultaneously.

At no point did the hull heal proc actually cleanse this "plasma torpedo" proc.


Is anyone else able to confirm this issue?
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  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Yeah, actually never tested, but I never though the two piece set power ever cleared anything. that's why I had Hazard Emitters.

    From STO Wiki (not the best source, but the only one I have right now):
    Passive
    This system provides a passive bonus to your Hull Repair skill as well as speeding up hull regeneration both in and out of combat. There is also a chance to trigger an automatic hull regeneration sequence that will restore up to 30% of your total hull points once per minute while simultaneously reducing incoming damage, whenever incoming damage is received.

    +0.35 Health Regeneration
    +10 Starship Hull Repair
    When receiving All Damage, 2% chance of applying Autonomous Regeneration Sequencer

    +4.2 Hull Regeneration over 10 sec
    Reduces Damage to Hull by ??% for 10 sec
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  • mastergenera1mastergenera1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    i think what he meant was at some point the hull regen did clear the proc and now it doesnt was what he was trying to say.i havent used the borg set in months myself so i dont recall if it did or didnt function like HE in clearing plasma fires or not.
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  • canis36canis36 Member Posts: 737 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Same here. Never had the Assimilated Hull Heal clear plasma damage though I wouldn't be surprised if the healing overcame it on most occassions.

    The real problem is the fact that the Borg seem to be proccing with every hit and hitting far more often. Yesterday I noticed at one point that I had two plasma beam procs and five plasma torp procs going at once. I hit hazard emitters and as soon as it ran down I was on fire again, this time with one plasma beam and three plasma torp.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    i think what he meant was at some point the hull regen did clear the proc and now it doesnt was what he was trying to say.i havent used the borg set in months myself so i dont recall if it did or didnt function like HE in clearing plasma fires or not.

    Correct.


    I'm pretty certain it did in fact clear plasma proc fires, and Bort certainly seems to think that it did (and perhaps should) be clearing them.

    As of right now, it most certainly doesn't.
  • thepantspartythepantsparty Member Posts: 431 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The 2-pc hull heal never cleansed plasma, it was the 3-pc shield heal which clears hazard debuffs (plasma is a hazard debuff). Previously people were able to get the 3-pc while only using 2 pieces + the console, but no longer.
  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The 2-pc hull heal never cleansed plasma, it was the 3-pc shield heal which clears hazard debuffs (plasma is a hazard debuff). Previously people were able to get the 3-pc while only using 2 pieces + the console, but no longer.


    Wow, good catch.

    STO wiki seems to indicate that you are in fact correct, and that Bort is actually incorrect.


    Set 3: Multi-Regenerative Shield Array
    Passive When receiving All Damage, 10% chance of applying Multi-Regenerative Shield Array when any shield facing falls below 20% approximately 315 Shield Regeneration applied once to each facing approximately 1485 Shield Regeneration over 10 sec to each facing Cleanses all Hazard Debuffs, such as the Borg Shield Drain, and continues to cleanse every 0.5 seconds for 15 seconds.



    In which case, most players have lost this hull cleanse due to nearly no one ever running the Borg shield.


    It seems the set changes has removed a shield heal, a shield cleanse for the shield drain as well as a cleanse for other hazard debuffs such as borg plasma.




    Now it makes sense why most players feel they are being completely bombarded with these debuffs & procs being spammed constantly and no ability to keep pace with the frequency of these effects.
  • weylandjuarezweylandjuarez Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Now it makes sense why most players feel they are being completely bombarded with these debuffs & procs being spammed constantly and no ability to keep pace with the frequency of these effects.

    Well, yes and no - there's still been a big change in the amount of plasma DoT we're receiving - I haven't used the Borg set in a long time (full MACO) and I've never had nor needed Hazard Emitters on my Excelsior - post Season 7 I'm getting critted to death by plasma burn.

    So for those that were using the Borg set I guess the effects are magnified even more.
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  • ussultimatumussultimatum Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Well, yes and no - there's still been a big change in the amount of plasma DoT we're receiving

    You're absolutely right.

    This loss of the 3-piece debuff cleanse is just a facet of the overall current issues for STFs.
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