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raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
edited November 2012 in Federation Discussion
Hi All,

Ever since the mention the 20% sale I rushed to the c-store and finally brought the assault cruiser refit after all these months of waiting and being undecided. So I would like you opinion/s on my build and what I could do to improve it.


At the moment:

Weapons

Forward
3x phaser array beams
WAQT forward

Rear
3x phaser array beams
quantum torpedo launcher very rare XII

Engineering console
PVE
neutronium XII
field emitter
rcs
eps

PVP
4x neutronium or 3x neutroium, field emitter or eps or rcs depends on the situation

science console

field generator
emitter array

Tactical consoles
Borg console
x2 phaser rely
or
phaser relay
quantum chamber

sometimes use other torpedo types such as photon for higher maximum DPS output or transphasics or the one the slow ships done. Also got antiproton beams as well.

boff layout

UNI - Science officer
hazard emitters
science team

LT tac
FAW, attack pattern beta, TS 3

ensign tac
tactical team

Commander engineering
EPTS, eng team, rev shield polarity, EWP
EPTW, aux to structural, directed energy modulation

Any ideas will be great. Thanks.
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  • ehrlehnehrlehn Member Posts: 137 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Well, one thing I would do is run three phaser relays in your tac console slots and drop the borg console in place of the eng field emitter.

    I can't speak to pvp since I have virtually no experience with it. i also do not have the regent, just the standard and mirro ACs, but, am looking very seriously at buying one. with that in mind i would base it off my current AC build tweaked for the diff Boffs:

    equipment at mk XI or better

    fore: 3x phaser B/A, WAQL
    Aft: 4X phaser B/A

    eng: EPS, borg, neutronium X2

    Sci: Field gen X2

    Tac: Phaser relay X3

    devices: frequency mod., aux batt, shield batt, whatever else for the last slot, RMC if you have it...lol)

    BOFFS
    Tac: TT1, FAW2, TS3 (or if you have purple TT doffs: FAW TS2 APB3)
    Ens Tac: TT1

    Com Eng: ET1, EPS2, RSP2, Aux2SIF3
    Lt Eng EPW1, EPS2

    Lt sci: HE1, TSS

    just my .02, your mileage may vary.

    Derrick - Fed Eng
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    the thing what I like about the ac is that it is a well balanced ship with the boff layout balanced with dps and tanking but to compete with powerful ships it needs a bit more of a bite. With the ac refit if drops a eng level to boost its tac power, tbh i think they should of dropped the commander eng boff down to ltc instead of droping ltc to lt. Being doing some research on the fleet weapons and elite fleet weapons, does anyone know if they are good? Also what does everyone think about If I add the Spiral Wave Disruptors? Need something to compete with those pesky escorts which can now tank a lot better then a cruiser and still has a bite.
  • wackywombatwackywombat Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Ehrlehn's build is very similar to what I would have suggested, with a few minor tweaks, it's a solid build and once you're used to it you can make a few tweaks for personal taste.

    It's worth mentioning that you could drop the Borg console all together now, it's not part of the Borg set anymore. I still use it for the bonuses, but it's no longer necessary.
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    okay will drop the borg console but what about boast dps, atm im using mark 12 borg phasers and suggested to change to Spiral Wave Disruptors, what does everyone think. Also for science which is better science team or transfer shield strength?
  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    First off, for Spiral Wave Disruptors you need to have the Galor on that toon. Without it, you can't get them, period, so far as I know.

    Second, the Borg console is probably not all that useful (as per prior posters) without the Borg bonuses.

    Third, you didn't give us your shield/deflector/engine?

    Fourth, the weapon loadout is similar to what I use, and I consider it very effective.

    Fifth, for consoles, I personally run two RCS, and two neutroniums for engineering. I would suggest that you ditch the EPS, since it's only useful for a few special situations these days, and put something else in. My personal bias in science consoles is to stuff them full of field generators for higher shield HP, but I could be wrong with that. The tactical consoles, as others have stated, should be all the energy type you're using (this is good advice in general for almost any layout, really).

    As per BOffs:

    Personally I would strongly suggest that you consider swapping to a higher level of EPtS and a lower level of EPtW, and rotate two copies of each continuously. You ought to be able to hit 125 if you're using a weapon-centric power distribution (although the weapon power supposedly helps over 125 in terms of the reduction of firing multiple beam arrays) and you've properly spec'd into warp core potential and weapon performance. I also STRONGLY recommend Aux2SIF3, it gives you a huge resistance boost and a reliable hull repair of decent size every 15 seconds, and best of all you don't need two copies to do a constant rotation. Eject Warp Plasma is iffy - I'd personally only have level 1 for that if you must have it.

    If you're a tac, I would suggest that you consider changing out the Lt. Cmdr tac positon's TS3 for APO1 or APB2, as hopefully you've spec'd into the attack pattern skills, and APO is good for escaping tractor beams (not the biggest concern in a cruiser, but it IS there). DEM is of somewhat questionable efficacy; I would skip it unless you're a DPS-boost starved engineer.

    Also, the Conn DOffs that help Tac Team also boost your attack patterns skill - VERY useful, in addition to freeing up a precious tac ability slot. You may also consider Shield Distro DOffs (purple, from Rolar Nebula) to turn Brace For Impact into a roll-of-the-dice shield repair, and a purple warp core engineer (if you decide to take up continuous emergency power rotation) for a possible all-systems power boost every time you use an emergency power ability.

    These are, of course, all ideas, and may not work for your setup or what you're trying to do. Good luck!
  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    raj011 wrote: »
    okay will drop the borg console but what about boast dps, atm im using mark 12 borg phasers and suggested to change to Spiral Wave Disruptors, what does everyone think. Also for science which is better science team or transfer shield strength?

    Already addressed spiral waves in my last post.

    Science team is going to conflict with tactical team. I don't know if I'd ditch it, but that's definitely going to work against it big-time. I can say TSS, while I have it on my engineer and it HAS helped, isn't all THAT impressive, and I usually use it on allies. Personally I use Polarize Hull to give tractor beams the slip.

    The Borg Console's DPS boosting, I think, you can PROBABLY do without (I forget the exact stats, but at least the +5 weapon power can be made up for with management of EPtW).
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    yeah I know how to acquire the Spiral Wave disruptors but I should of said do they perform similar or better to the borg mark 12 phasers? As for deflector engine and shield normally use borg def, borg engine aor maco shield or maco def, borg eng and maco shield again. Sometimes used the omega deflector for increase to targeting systems.

    Thanks red01999
  • wackywombatwackywombat Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    The thing about Spiral Wave Disruptors is with their bonuses ([DMGx2][ACCx2]) they have some of the best base damage in the game. With disruptor consoles and high weapon power it's not unusual for me to do 2k damage a hit under the right circumstances.

    The Borg weapons are ok, but are pretty much just MK XII rares. I never really saw much of a difference using them compared to the regular MK XIIs, I've even heard rumors that the [Borg] proc is broken.

    I'd suggest you try both and make your own decisions, but I find Spirals MUCH more consistent.
  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Engineer Captain, Maxed Threat Gen for tanking.

    1 DBB, 2 BA, WA Torp - Fore
    4 BA - Aft

    MACO Shield
    MACO Deflector
    Borg Engine

    Weap Batt, Eng Batt, Shield Batt, Field Mod

    ENG - 4x Neutronium
    SCI - Borg, Riker
    TAC - 3x Energy Damage

    LTC Tac - TT1, FAW2, BO3
    Ensign Tac - TT1
    CMD Engi - EPtS1, RSP1, X2SIF2, Warp Plasma 3
    LT Engi - EPtW1, X2Damp1
    LT Uni - HE1, TSS2

    I often swap out another Sci with HE1 and Repulsors depending on what I am doing.
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    why have to tac teams? Are the cool down times happen a the same time?
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,252 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    red01999 wrote: »
    First off, for Spiral Wave Disruptors you need to have the Galor on that toon. Without it, you can't get them, period, so far as I know.
    I have never had a Galor and I have Spiral Wave Disruptors in the Dstore
  • baelogventurebaelogventure Member Posts: 1,002 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    raj011 wrote: »
    why have to tac teams? Are the cool down times happen a the same time?

    Because you can keep Tac Team in constant use with 2 copies.
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    I have never had a Galor and I have Spiral Wave Disruptors in the Dstore

    how much are they?
  • vesolcvesolc Member Posts: 244 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    raj011 wrote: »
    how much are they?

    45K I think.
  • tlamstriketlamstrike Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    pottsey5g wrote: »
    I have never had a Galor and I have Spiral Wave Disruptors in the Dstore

    They show up in the store for everyone but unless that character owns a Galor you can't purchase them.
    My Romulan Liberated Borg character made it to Level 30 and beat the (old) Defense of New Romulus with the skill point bug. :D
  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,930 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    my build is similar to most, with the exception of having a DBB in the left weapon slot. the DBB with BOL will usually drop the facing shield and if not, the followon beam arrays will finish the job in time for the quantum high yield to make it's way in
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  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    I went ahead and brought the Spiral Wave disruptor beams and let me say I love them, not only does it give me sovereign refit class the almost nemesis E look but it dps is higher than my borg mark 12's plus the modifiers help a lot. So with these beams im on par with most of all the pvp ships and I recommend everyone to get these beams.
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    raj011 wrote: »
    I went ahead and brought the Spiral Wave disruptor beams and let me say I love them, not only does it give me sovereign refit class the almost nemesis E look but it dps is higher than my borg mark 12's plus the modifiers help a lot. So with these beams im on par with most of all the pvp ships and I recommend everyone to get these beams.

    Here's the catch:
    You need a Galor.

    Here's the second catch:
    You need a TON of dilithium.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Here's the catch:
    You need a Galor.

    Here's the second catch:
    You need a TON of dilithium.

    I know

    Oh wait....

    I know :P

    Read my previous post before you troll in please and a ton of dilithium, please don't exaggerate. It is not a ton I only need to buy 2 extra SWB to add to the four I got from the galor which cost me 90630 D = to about 690 zen, which I had. :cool:
  • xzemexxzemex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    raj011 wrote: »
    I know

    Oh wait....

    I know :P

    Read my previous post before you troll in please and a ton of dilithium, please don't exaggerate. It is not a ton I only need to buy 2 extra SWB to add to the four I got from the galor which cost me 90630 D = to about 690 zen, which I had. :cool:

    To most, that is a ton. Almost 2 weeks of grinding Dilithium. And not everyone buys Zen.

    Plus not to mention the cost of the weapons themselves.
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    Anyway back on topic, when you get the regent your supposed to have +10 to weapons and +5 to both engines and auxiliary power right but to me it does not seem like it has changed. Atm i have 75W, 70S, 70E, 64A when on balanced power of course and not in sector space.
  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited November 2012
    raj011 wrote: »
    Anyway back on topic, when you get the regent your supposed to have +10 to weapons and +5 to both engines and auxiliary power right but to me it does not seem like it has changed. Atm i have 75W, 70S, 70E, 64A when on balanced power of course and not in sector space.

    This reply is a bit late, but no. The Regent power boost is +10 weapons, +5 shields, +5 aux. Engines are explicitly left off the table. This may be, in fact, responsible for the "sluggishness" I have heard some report when regarding the Regent's flight performance compared to the standard Assault Cruiser. In my experience this shaves off a small amount of the turn rate, and definitely reduces the impulse performance measurably (though not by TOO much), so it's probably just within the bounds wherein someone can feel/quantify it.
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