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Playing nothing but PUGs for months now, I've learned to take most happenings in STF's in stride. There's only one thing that really still pisses me off. Take a guess.
Out of hundreds of STFs I can count on one hand, with digits to spare, the number of times a Repulser Beam was 1)needed and 2)actually used correctly. I can recount many more moments of hilarity. Like pushing probes through the portal on KASE (2 points!). Or pushing Raptors towards the Kang. (Turbo fail!)
More often however, it goes like this... Activate TacTeam, Emergency Power to Weapons, Attack Pattern Omega and Rapid Fire. FIRE! And just then, the enemy is pushed a hundred kilometers away. It's at this point I go find something else to do. Unless it's the final boss battle. Then I just shut down the engines and relax. I've grown tired of playing "chase the NPC".
I am not going to kid myself here. I know what I am about to ask will never happen. They will not restrict an ability. Regardless... CAN WE BAN REPULSER BEAMS FROM PVE EVENTS PLEASE!
OK. Maintenance time is almost over. I can go back to watching enemy ships being pushed all over creation.
Good day all.
Out of hundreds of STFs I can count on one hand, with digits to spare, the number of times a Repulser Beam was 1)needed and 2)actually used correctly. I can recount many more moments of hilarity. Like pushing probes through the portal on KASE (2 points!). Or pushing Raptors towards the Kang. (Turbo fail!)
More often however, it goes like this... Activate TacTeam, Emergency Power to Weapons, Attack Pattern Omega and Rapid Fire. FIRE! And just then, the enemy is pushed a hundred kilometers away. It's at this point I go find something else to do. Unless it's the final boss battle. Then I just shut down the engines and relax. I've grown tired of playing "chase the NPC".
I am not going to kid myself here. I know what I am about to ask will never happen. They will not restrict an ability. Regardless... CAN WE BAN REPULSER BEAMS FROM PVE EVENTS PLEASE!
OK. Maintenance time is almost over. I can go back to watching enemy ships being pushed all over creation.
Good day all.
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Also those mentioned by you instances aren't the only ones.
I'm flying aoe burst dmg escort. i fire up canon scatter volley 1, torp spread 3 + attack patterns and than i see half of the npcs that were so nicely clustered getting repulsed away from my attack range...
And worst of all this happen quite often even in elitestf channel groups...
<Shiver>
Take a power out of pve LMFAO. We pvper's can't even get the devs to take out **** spam p2w consoles from pvp. And you have the nerve to ask them to take a regular power out of pve. What u smoking bro?
Wish I could say the same. It's just one idiot after another. Just got out of a great match of KASE, in which Mr. "OMGZORS! I can push things!!!!11eleventy" Pushed Donatra around for 20 minutes. Dead serious.
As stated earlier, I shut them engines down and watched the fun. Every time the group would get around her, whoosh away she went. All that it needed was some classic Benny Hill music and it would have made a great Youtube video.
That would be hell to actually experience, but I can imagine that it'd be a hilarious watch!
I'm a repulsor user. That said, I'm as careful as I can be with them i.e. watch for GW and tykens that have been thrown down as well as escorts lining up for a run. But generally they are safe to use as long as you follow one simple rule.
Stay directly ahead of the ships to be pushed.
I have to admit that I'm not perfect. There are times where I'm just a tiny bit out of alignment with the targets and I end up either scattering them or pushing them off the plane i.e. upwards or downwards.
And I'll be darned, but sometimes my sense of timing dies and I end up hitting repulsors seemingly at the same instant someone lays down a GW. I don't know about other users, but I get a horrible feeling when I see that it hasn't gone just right
Couldn't have said it better! out of the several Captains I have, only the two Sci's actually use repulsors, and even then typically only during ISN/E when I take up a nanite control role. Ok that's not entirely right, I also use them against cubes, transformers, gates for the extra damage but usually only after getting in a position where my intended target is the only thing the beam(s) hit. I can count the number of times i've needed to use them in Cure on one hand without counting the thumb, GW and tractor beams are enough. Although, yes I have actually needed to push Donatra away from a player holding agro that just wont believe the 5k cloak rule (but even THAT is done by me driving my ship directly in front of said player before hitting the repulsors).
It all comes down to people not thinking before they use them, and yes I'm also one who wont go chasing after a target thats been pushed off into the ruebarb...unless I did the pushing
This is exactly one of the reasons why we should be allowed to shoot our own teammates.
Thats my pet hate with it. You see people using them willy nilly, bassiclly smaking them every time they're in range regardless if there's a good reason for it.
Best one.
In a 20 Man fleet. Group warps in near freight, i drop GW and then 2 HY Plasma torps down their throat. If you've ever seen this you know what a mess it will make of the group. The escorts where hitting CSV, cruisers FAW'ng. Thie this utter moran in another ship comes in and TBR's them all all over the place, everyones AoE was ruined, (they where outside of 10K for most people). Made the resultant fight far harder and when i got him on PM and told him to pack it in his reply was to call me a cluless newb and say to leave him alone if we wanted max FM's.
The real issue is the design of phase 3 and 4 of the 20 man itself. TBR is a requierment to doing well there, there are no alternatives. And thats the catch. People bring it because you need it there, but then get it into their head it's ok to use it everywhere.
They get the idea from Phase 3 and 4 of the new fleet action, (those pahses are unwinabble without it), and apply it everywhere.
someone make a youtube video of that! idk..do it in a pvp match or something if possible,i really want to see that.
Grav wells on the otherhand are like a dream come true for an escort with CSV. All those spheres and probes nicely together, ready to be hit by cannon scatter volley death.
Seriously sci guys, use grav wells, your team will LOOOVVEEE you for it.
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I'm also packing a gravity well with chrono torps and torp spread, along with CSV and an attack pattern beta 3 to use when possible. So with luck for every time I fug up my TBR twice I have grouped up all the enemies, reduced their bonus defense to nothing, and pushed their hull resist pretty far into the negatives for ya :cool:
They are in fact very helpful even in STFs if - and only if - the player using them knows what he's doing. I was saved more than once from spheres who decided to blow up right next to me. And more than once the optional in Infected Elite was saved even though somebody had blown up his generator much too early. And if another guy tries to be a hero by blowing up a cube in cure elite all by himself even though every other player tells him to stop. Then TBRs are quite handy to PUSH BACK the incoming borg fleets.
But most of the time - unfortunetly - TBRs are used to do the stupiest things.
It provides decent damage against immovable objects like cubes gates and transformers.
It takes care of incoming mines, fighters and torpedoes.
When time needs to be bought it buys far more then a gravity well or a tractor beam does.
It allows you to divide and conquer in PVP.
It saves you from a ship going critical when evasive and brace are on cool down and coupled with evasive and emergency power to engines it allows you to hold back probes on both sides of KA at once.
I use TBRs a lot, especially in pugs. I have saved many days and pulled back many ops from the brink of failure, in part due to TBRs. But I doubt most of the pugs I have helped remember the hundreds of times I have used TBRs FTW. I am sure they remember the one or two times server lag or destraction by my wife caused me to TRIBBLE up though.
So on behalf of those of us who use TBRs well. I would like to ask the rest of you to please shut your faces. We don't need your put downs. When TBRs go wrong they go horribly wrong, we know. Some people use TBRs in such a way as to give the rest of us a bad name, we know this too. One mistake with TBRs in a match isn't reason to go mental on some one. You don't know why that mistake was made, or if that TBR user uses there TBRs responsibly 99% of the time.
If you must blame some one for wasting your abilities blame yourself for signing up for a PUG. You knew the kinds of people you might be joined with when you clicked that button. You took that risk. You are the reason you are in the fail group with the fail TBR user. So go moan at yourself.
ISE - the player in question goes behind the nanites coming at us as we had started pounding the transformer after doing the 10% rule and he repulses them straight at us costing us the optional, no ryme nor reason for it.... or the idiots who can see the massive cloud of Warp plasma and just before they get to it repulses them away.
o.t.o.h.: Grav Well 3 + Tricobalt-Mines = Cloud of big, yellow numbers
Please don't do this unless your group hasn't been able to DPS the raptors/Neg'var down and they've almost reached Kang.
I can't count how many times I've did a MRRMLL in a pug CSE, and some twit science captain flips his lid and starts scattering raptors all over the damn map because he has it in his head that you need to clear every probe at every gate before you pop a cube.
Sometimes, just sometimes, we will pop that cube because we know we have the DPS to handle the waves.