great BUT !!

kara445 · November 2012

I spend some times on TRIBBLE and i see a lot of great ideas, a lot of great things for this game become better and better.

But just one thing, I'm a gold member, i pay every month for this game, and sometimes i paid a little bit more for a new ship or other things.

All the Dilithium i have go in my fleet and now i see i will need more Dilithium again, I have 3 choise : stop give Dilithium in fleet and don't use this feature or don't put Dilithium in the new features and don't use it or spend more money for have more Dilithium.

That make me feel ( and I'm not alone) even if i pay a subscription a have to pay more and more. Pay more than other subscription games and i start to think stop this game because all the good ideas you have for this game you change it for we spend more money even for gold member and that it's no respect for us because we pay every month for support this game, we trust in you and you just do everything for we spend more and forget why we are here.

heghqib · November 2012

Well, gold members have 500 zen a month given to them, right? Why can't you convert the 500 zen to dil? That's like 79k dil a month. Or.........there's several dailies that can be done and/or the STFs pay out dilithium. Plenty of ways to make dilithium. In fact, if you have a lvl 50 toon (figure you probably already have at least one) you can fill up any empty slots with lvl 22 klinks and have them run the investigate daily reports and academy lore missions for around 2k dil each toon. Gold members have what, 4 toon slots? That's at least 8k dil a day for doing very little. So 79k + 240k (8k a day for 30 days)= 319k dil a month, spending no more than maybe 10-15 minutes a day.

kara445 · November 2012

heghqib wrote: »

Well, gold members have 500 zen a month given to them, right? Why can't you convert the 500 zen to dil? That's like 79k dil a month. Or.........there's several dailies that can be done and/or the STFs pay out dilithium. Plenty of ways to make dilithium. In fact, if you have a lvl 50 toon (figure you probably already have at least one) you can fill up any empty slots with lvl 22 klinks and have them run the investigate daily reports and academy lore missions for around 2k dil each toon. Gold members have what, 4 toon slots? That's at least 8k dil a day for doing very little. So 79k + 240k (8k a day for 30 days)= 319k dil a month, spending no more than maybe 10-15 minutes a day.

yes all what you say is true, but first for me the 500 zen it just normal because i pay each month for the game compare to the free player. And i tried what you said that seriously take more than 10-15 minutes a day and 'im sorry but I'm in this game for play not farm dilithium, and i think i don't have to pay more than my subscription for can use all the features of this game.

I mean u can understand for all the cosmetics things like uniform or for some ships pets ...
i understand and even think the BOx are good idea.

But if that continue like that i will have to buy dilithium too for can use all the features

quickdraw74 · November 2012

heghqib wrote: »

Well, gold members have 500 zen a month given to them, right? Why can't you convert the 500 zen to dil? That's like 79k dil a month. Or.........there's several dailies that can be done and/or the STFs pay out dilithium. Plenty of ways to make dilithium. In fact, if you have a lvl 50 toon (figure you probably already have at least one) you can fill up any empty slots with lvl 22 klinks and have them run the investigate daily reports and academy lore missions for around 2k dil each toon. Gold members have what, 4 toon slots? That's at least 8k dil a day for doing very little. So 79k + 240k (8k a day for 30 days)= 319k dil a month, spending no more than maybe 10-15 minutes a day.

Well the 500 is not really GIVEN....we pay for it. They just do that to make sure we feel we have value for our money. Without it they would lose a ton of gold customers and they know it.

Gold members only get 3 toon slots 1 Klingon and 2 FED. Sure I could hammer out dilithium like crazy on 2 other toons, but I should not have to do that. Dilithium is at a premium right now because it is used up by tons of fleet projects. Now they add this new Omega force project system to advance your characters which takes up even MORE dilithium. That means even more grinding in addition to what we already have to do. I can see tons of fleet projects sitting there forever because everyone is going to hold on to their dilithium for character upgrades.

IMHO, if I have to grind on 2 other toons to do fleet and character projects for 1 toon, then I had just as soon not play. It will be like a 2nd job. Also, just to point out Crypic/PW didn't really intend for everyone to share dilithium between toons, it just turns out they have to do it that way because Zen is account wide and not toon specific.

I do understand what the OP is saying. If I play for 2 hours every night and 1 hour 30 minutes is spent grinding for dilithium, I don't see how that is going to be any fun or very rewarding. So eventually it comes down to buying or using my stipend Zen to get dilithium. 1 Zen equals 157 dilithium now, before season 6 it was in the 200 range. Once they launch Season 7 I would almost bet it gets closer to 100 dil per Zen if not even lower. They are even planning on lowering the Zen payout for elite STFs which is going to make it even harder on the dilithium market. That is where tons of players grind it from now. So yeah, I am concerned over this. Maybe I am going overboard, but unless they explain how they are going to handle the problem, my concern is going to keep growing.

kara445 · November 2012

quickdraw74 wrote: »

Well the 500 is not really GIVEN....we pay for it. They just do that to make sure we feel we have value for our money. Without it they would lose a ton of gold customers and they know it.

Gold members only get 3 toon slots 1 Klingon and 2 FED. Sure I could hammer out dilithium like crazy on 2 other toons, but I should not have to do that. Dilithium is at a premium right now because it is used up by tons of fleet projects. Now they add this new Omega force project system to advance your characters which takes up even MORE dilithium. That means even more grinding in addition to what we already have to do. I can see tons of fleet projects sitting there forever because everyone is going to hold on to their dilithium for character upgrades.

IMHO, if I have to grind on 2 other toons to do fleet and character projects for 1 toon, then I had just as soon not play. It will be like a 2nd job. Also, just to point out Crypic/PW didn't really intend for everyone to share dilithium between toons, it just turns out they have to do it that way because Zen is account wide and not toon specific.

I do understand what the OP is saying. If I play for 2 hours every night and 1 hour 30 minutes is spent grinding for dilithium, I don't see how that is going to be any fun or very rewarding. So eventually it comes down to buying or using my stipend Zen to get dilithium. 1 Zen equals 157 dilithium now, before season 6 it was in the 200 range. Once they launch Season 7 I would almost bet it gets closer to 100 dil per Zen if not even lower. They are even planning on lowering the Zen payout for elite STFs which is going to make it even harder on the dilithium market. That is where tons of players grind it from now. So yeah, I am concerned over this. Maybe I am going overboard, but unless they explain how they are going to handle the problem, my concern is going to keep growing.

Thank you that exactly what i want say.

I understand they have to keep do money with this game, is why i understand the ships costume ... un the C-store and the BOX ( that a good idea for make money) but they have to don't forget about gold member is we pay is for not to have to pay like free member.

They just have to not forget that

great BUT !!

Comments