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starkaosstarkaos Member Posts: 11,556 Arc User
For those at Tier 4, what are the special bonuses of the elite fleet space deflector, shields and engine? Its too early for the elite fleet weapons to be unlocked since assuming someone did just Engineering assignments each day it would be at least December before it unlocked.
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  • mimey2mimey2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I'm rather curious as well. My fleet is close to tier 4 engineering, so we'll know the engines soon, but the deflectors and shields, not for awhile.
    I remain empathetic to the concerns of my community, but do me a favor and lay off the god damn name calling and petty remarks. It will get you nowhere.
    I must admit, respect points to Trendy for laying down the law like that.
  • mazurkr1mazurkr1 Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    elite fleet engines all have +3.8 to weps, shield, and aux, and have the asynchronous warp field. beyond that, you can get 2 out of 3 of turn, spd, full, with 1 being X2.

    the power bonus scales inversely with level, rather like efficiency. so, lower the power, closer you get to full +3.8.

    all 3 types of course, but i snagged the hyper-impulse,naturally.

    pretty nice. i'm very curious to see what the deflector and shields will have.

    we'll be doing science next, after t4 starbase is done.
  • fleetsolvanguardfleetsolvanguard Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    interesting keep the info commin
  • pottsey5gpottsey5g Member Posts: 4,238 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Elite engines seem like a giant waste of time. So you can get a free Efficient engine which is pretty much the same or you can get a better STF adapted engine which is the same only better. Why would anyone want the Elite engines?

    The whole Advanced/Elite idea is great but poorly thought out from missing items to items with mods on that do not work for that item type.
  • aarons9aarons9 Member Posts: 961
    edited October 2012
    i have to agree, the time it takes to build up a sb an the massive cost you would think the gear would be better then anything you can get.. they really messed up there.. :(

    they need to put a background remodulator in the fleet store just like the stf set has for those who want to use fleet ground gear..

    and dmgx3 critX isnt worth the dilithium cost to me, so ill never get them. why pay 200k dil for 1 extra dmg :(


    the shield engines and deflector should have some kind of set bonus. they are too expensive not to.


    the fleet store could have been really great..
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  • tetonicatetonica Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    aarons9 wrote: »
    i have to agree, the time it takes to build up a sb an the massive cost you would think the gear would be better then anything you can get.. they really messed up there.. :(

    they need to put a background remodulator in the fleet store just like the stf set has for those who want to use fleet ground gear..

    and dmgx3 critX isnt worth the dilithium cost to me, so ill never get them. why pay 200k dil for 1 extra dmg :(


    the shield engines and deflector should have some kind of set bonus. they are too expensive not to.


    the fleet store could have been really great..

    Try taking a look at this from a different perspective. Yes, you had to spend all the time and dil upgrading your base. However, that month old player that joins your fleet 6 months from now gets instant access to equipment that's better than most anything they can get from mission drops. This helps them get into normal and elite stf's and fleet actions quicker. Now, I dunno if the dil cost will prohibit that, but if it does then hopefully cryptic will see no one buying the stuff and tweak either the prices or the strength of the equipment
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  • malkarrismalkarris Member Posts: 797 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    tetonica wrote: »
    Try taking a look at this from a different perspective. Yes, you had to spend all the time and dil upgrading your base. However, that month old player that joins your fleet 6 months from now gets instant access to equipment that's better than most anything they can get from mission drops. This helps them get into normal and elite stf's and fleet actions quicker. Now, I dunno if the dil cost will prohibit that, but if it does then hopefully cryptic will see no one buying the stuff and tweak either the prices or the strength of the equipment

    But that was only relevent before season 7. As soon as that hits, there will be no reason to waste dilithium and time getting fleet parts, when all of the dilithium and time will be needed to get STF parts. If they really want fleet parts to compete with the STF sets, then the fleet parts need their own set bonus. Maybe some sort of set bonus which allows you to pick any fleet shield, engine, and deflector, and it would give the same two and three set bonuses.

    Also, its not instant access, its access after this new player has ranked up to 50 and sunk a lot of time, or more likely dilithium, into this better equipment, only to throw it away for the STF gear. And its not like you need that anyway, I'm not particularly good at this game and I've managed to do alright on STFs with common and green gear.
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  • mazurkr1mazurkr1 Member Posts: 30 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    i'd say it's not better, or worse. it's basically a mix of omega (turn rate, speed, hyper-impulse) with efficient (pwr to subsystems) with maco/borg (asynchronous warp field).

    so, keep the deflector and shield of your choice for a 2-part bonus, and use the engine for a jack-of-all-trades piece.

    3-part maco/omega bonus don't do much for me, personally.

    i'll roll 2-part omega with this engine for now, especially as 3-pt borg is going bye-bye.
  • thlaylierahthlaylierah Member Posts: 2,985 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Actually the 4 point Borg is "going bye-bye."

    Soon you will have to use the Borg shield to get the 3 part bonus.

    I was prepping my live toon for this change and was annoyed that I had to mount all 4 parts for now.

    I will miss the stronger shield, but love the heal bonuses.
  • carl103carl103 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    I find the borg sheild is ok and if we get the promised MKXII vershion, well, cool.

    Thyat said has anyone noticed that the Advanced Fleet sheilds and Deflectors are mising, whats with that anyway?
  • aarons9aarons9 Member Posts: 961
    edited October 2012
    tetonica wrote: »
    Try taking a look at this from a different perspective. Yes, you had to spend all the time and dil upgrading your base. However, that month old player that joins your fleet 6 months from now gets instant access to equipment that's better than most anything they can get from mission drops. This helps them get into normal and elite stf's and fleet actions quicker. Now, I dunno if the dil cost will prohibit that, but if it does then hopefully cryptic will see no one buying the stuff and tweak either the prices or the strength of the equipment

    youre missing the point..
    its not like this one month old player is joining a fleet to get free weapons.
    by the time he is one month old, there is no reason for him not to be level 50.. 6 hours of mirror will get you there..

    then he has to donate something to the fleet to get some fleet credits.
    then we will need to grind dilithium to buy the parts.. stfs will be lowering the dilithium reward so this will take a long time after s7.. yes you can do the dailies, but only once per day..

    now after all of this.. he is getting medium grade stuff.. seems like a waste of time to me.
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  • nikkyvixnikkyvix Member Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    aarons9 wrote: »
    youre missing the point..
    its not like this one month old player is joining a fleet to get free weapons.
    by the time he is one month old, there is no reason for him not to be level 50.. 6 hours of mirror will get you there..

    Do not assume that every player of STO is an active player who is going to chew through levels, even as easy as it is to do.

    Several in my own fleet only have the time (and interest) to level by DOffing. It took them about three or four months. They are still players of this game.

    And yeah, there are high-tier fleets out there who pull people in after the person requests that they just want what that fleet has. One of my own fleet members got the Elite Disruptor Split-Beam for this reason from one of those Tier III Fed fleets that had access to it at the time, leaving to temporarily join their fleet, make a purchase, then rejoining ours (something I still kinda feel frumpy about but whatevs, it's their dil/credits).

    The fleets may just ask for something in return like a contribution to their projects if they're enterprising about it, but there are fleets out there who will probably market what they've unlocked to others who want it, especially since fleetless rogues have no fleet of their own with which to level and get the shinies they want.

    ...I think I had a point there. Oh right: let's not try to generalize on the players of STO as there're tons of different kinds of players. :)
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  • carl103carl103 Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    The point is they still have to put rescources into a SB and then the gear purchase to get fleet gear. Those same rescources will get people acess to much better basic STF gear super quick.
  • monsterofbloodmonsterofblood Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    We were the first to unlock tier 4 fleet ships KDF side and sell tier 4 fleet ship at 6,000,000 each we have made 100,000,000 ec off this. The ec is then used to buy projects ingredients. I got a fleet Negh'Var tier 4 and it has 5 engineering consoles. I put 4 rcs consoles in these slots and i have a crusier that turns like a bop. You may not think the fleet base stuff is any good but thats because you have no imaginations and love to complain. I got a elite pulsewave with extra knockback now you say the borg weapons are better... no ur wrong ... they are not .... the extra knock back allows me the time to remodulate and kill ... yes i still need the 3 piece set but i dont use the weapons as my main i use the fleet weapon.
  • dnaangel9dnaangel9 Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    We were the first to unlock tier 4 fleet ships KDF side and sell tier 4 fleet ship at 6,000,000 each we have made 100,000,000 ec off this. The ec is then used to buy projects ingredients. I got a fleet Negh'Var tier 4 and it has 5 engineering consoles. I put 4 rcs consoles in these slots and i have a crusier that turns like a bop. You may not think the fleet base stuff is any good but thats because you have no imaginations and love to complain. I got a elite pulsewave with extra knock back now you say the borg weapons are better... no ur wrong ... they are not .... the extra knock back allows me the time to remodulate and kill ... yes i still need the 3 piece set but i dont use the weapons as my main i use the fleet weapon.

    All Fleet Ships are Tier 5 (some argue they are really tier 6) Alot of players are confusing their tier level with the tier level of the SB needed to obtain them.

    Im really surprised no one has posted info Regarding the heavily Overpowered Elite Fleet Sheids. I know in PvP you can immediately tell who is using them when myself and 2 other people in my fleet cant even touch their shields. Ive even seen a few escorts with them Tank Donatra solo. Would love for someone to post the stats of the ResB/A Adaptive Space shields and fleet cred/dil needed to get them. I think anyone who has them does not want to post the stats in fear that more and more people will be pushing to get them.
  • duaths1duaths1 Member Posts: 1,232 Arc User
    edited December 2012
    cryptic has at least 2 more months to FINISH the T5 rewards :D
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