The ships' main shuttlebay was located on deck twelve. Behind the shuttlebay was a large flight deck, allowing small craft too large for the shuttle bay to land; this area included a large deck lift which lowered into a runabout bay. Ships of the class were equipped with a fleet of both shuttlecraft and runabouts.
the ' flight deck' is the visable section in front of the shuttle bay , thats also the lift.
still a bit sketchy calling a ship that carries a pair of runabouts a carrier lol
Yes but the reason its not a carrier is because its a shuttlebay and it could not launch and recover then effectively as, I suppose, the traffic control is not really able to handle it and, of course, since there is only one door it cannot launch and recover at the same time, its either launching or recovering one at the time.
Also we never seen a Galaxy being used in such a role, I seen speculation but its just that, speculation
the galaxy actually has 3 doors. the ones seen and used int he show was actually bay 3 witch was the smallest of them. never once saw the main bay
Except the Armitage is a Escort so "oops", the number of ships that argument could be used against becomes quite small.
And if the whole reason is because of the lift and the lower deck section but ... its a lift, using it BLOCKS the Shuttledoor meaning its perhaps better for larger ships to be recovered but its still bottlenecks to one shuttle at the time.
Then again, why am I arguing? Cryptic pays ZERO attention to feedback s0 we get a flight deck cruiser ... J-O-Y!
So were the Fed BoP Cryptic ... I mean why not at this point?
the akira/armitage class should not even be an escort it's larger then some cruisers mass wise (about the same as an excelsior). in canon it's classified as a heavy cruiser and was a torpedo boat with 15 torp launchers according to the DS9 tech manual
The Aquarius should have been the Fed BoP. I'm just glad it got gimped to hell so it'll be a while more before Cryptic releases the Andorian raider with battle cloak.
Only their slow production time is preventing this from happening...
By golly, looking at the abilities of the Vesta, why isn't this a lockbox ship? At the very least it would give the Klingons a shot at a "version" of Vesta for themselves.
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So Dual Cannons, Hangars, Sensor Analysis, Probably 3+ tactical consoles, probably some great layout...
I have one question cryptic...why would anyone fly other science ship?
Also, more danoobes in pvp...:rolleyes: Why are you so persistent in destroying pvp experience for everyone Cryptic ?
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There are 3 consoles. Which means likely there are 3 variants of Vesta.
I'm guessing then that 1 variant has SStargetting and more shield, one has a hangar, and the last has higher turn rate and can mount DHCs.
How do you know that ?
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Ah, so it probably will be some Odyssey like pack. Oh well, danoobes everywhere.
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Well of course Cryptic can go defy my assumptions of logic by putting all three consoles on the same ship. :rolleyes:
It will have all 3 on 1 ship and won't be a 3 pack.
It's virtually a given that they will charge between 3000 to 3500 zen given the extra costs in getting the ship - payments to the designer, legal issues etc, etc and given its a brand new ship with these extra costs they can easily charge 3000 min
given that a 3 pack would be around 7000 zen or $70+
You need to remember the Oddy 3 -pack was 5000 C-POINTS when it was released or more than 6000 zen
I highly doubt they will put out a ship that you have to pay $70 1 time or over $90 over time to get all 3
especially at this time of year just before christmas - it would be a hard sell
I will have 3000 zen already and my next stipend of 500 will bring me to 3500 - which should be the top end of the price range.
>Vesta
>Science Vessel
>Dual Cannons
>Hangar bay
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Finally, a FED equivalent of a Kar'Fi (pressumably). Dream come true - day one purchase for me.
For those concerned about Vesta having "fighters" - its book version does have a large flight deck and several shuttles and runabouts at its disposal, so it's not really canon bending or anything.
Can't wait for a Dev Blog with stats and such. Now I hope we'll get a Fleet Kar'Fi for the KDF to keep things "balanced" (*cough*).
I guess noone cares about fighters...but danoobes and their tractor spam.
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Tac: Can mount dual cannons and has a higher turnrate with tactical focus.
Sci: Has the special deflector/console and can use sensor analysis with science focus.
Eng: Can equip fighters and is Engineer focused with console/boff slots.
I was bored this morning and went to ESD to look at the shiny (yes, it's there on Tribble). It's a really :mad: angle, but if you look at it from next to the ship salesbeing, there seems to be a horizontal black slash a few decks up from the deflector dish that seems to be at least a deck tall. I couldn't see the rear bay, but is it possible that it has a single through-and-through bay like the Armitage (taking up the place of that ridiculous split in the Odyssey)?
Not sure how I feel about it having the hangar, though it gives us the third type (assuming the Atrox is the cruiser carrier and the Armitage the escort carrier).
guess im just resigned to it now lol sucks it seems to have a hanger , but if thats what they went with , oh well
i just hope they bring out a suitably powerful klingon ship too
Why can't I get my super OP -Vesta?? What is so wrong with them giving me what I have been asking for for months rrincy? Something that I said will sell maybe as many ships as the Oddy.
by all accounts you'll be getting it , doesnt mean i have to like it xD ill be flying it regardless anyway
if it is indeed a multi ship pack like the flagships , im just really hoping they do a KDF equivalent , they really need sci ships
by all accounts you'll be getting it , doesnt mean i have to like it xD ill be flying it regardless anyway
if it is indeed a multi ship pack like the flagships , im just really hoping they do a KDF equivalent , they really need sci ships
The KDF does need a "real Klingon" Science ship - not some other race. But they have already said making Klingon c-store ships are "not cost-effective" so don't hold your breathe.
yeah , just doesnt sit well with me though , if this is indeed a pack ship , and we dont know that for definite yet , then there really needs to be a KDF released at the same time
yeah , just doesnt sit well with me though , if this is indeed a pack ship , and we dont know that for definite yet , then there really needs to be a KDF released at the same time
guess we'll find out
There will be no KDF ship until 2013 at the earliest - they have said that many times. There is Zero chance of any KDF ship coming out same time as Vesta - it would have been telegraphed way in advance to calm down some KDF players if that were the case.
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the ' flight deck' is the visable section in front of the shuttle bay , thats also the lift.
still a bit sketchy calling a ship that carries a pair of runabouts a carrier lol
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And if the Vesta is a T5.5 ship... :eek:
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the galaxy actually has 3 doors. the ones seen and used int he show was actually bay 3 witch was the smallest of them. never once saw the main bay
the akira/armitage class should not even be an escort it's larger then some cruisers mass wise (about the same as an excelsior). in canon it's classified as a heavy cruiser and was a torpedo boat with 15 torp launchers according to the DS9 tech manual
Only their slow production time is preventing this from happening...
By golly, looking at the abilities of the Vesta, why isn't this a lockbox ship? At the very least it would give the Klingons a shot at a "version" of Vesta for themselves.
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I have one question cryptic...why would anyone fly other science ship?
Also, more danoobes in pvp...:rolleyes: Why are you so persistent in destroying pvp experience for everyone Cryptic ?
Please?
Even though I despise the lockbox system, please?
Otherwise, I agree, it'd make every other Science ship (except maybe the Wells), thoroughly redundant.
There are 3 consoles. Which means likely there are 3 variants of Vesta.
I'm guessing then that 1 variant has SStargetting and more shield, one has a hangar, and the last has higher turn rate and can mount DHCs.
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How do you know that ?
Well of course Cryptic can go defy my assumptions of logic by putting all three consoles on the same ship. :rolleyes:
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It will have all 3 on 1 ship and won't be a 3 pack.
It's virtually a given that they will charge between 3000 to 3500 zen given the extra costs in getting the ship - payments to the designer, legal issues etc, etc and given its a brand new ship with these extra costs they can easily charge 3000 min
given that a 3 pack would be around 7000 zen or $70+
You need to remember the Oddy 3 -pack was 5000 C-POINTS when it was released or more than 6000 zen
I highly doubt they will put out a ship that you have to pay $70 1 time or over $90 over time to get all 3
especially at this time of year just before christmas - it would be a hard sell
I will have 3000 zen already and my next stipend of 500 will bring me to 3500 - which should be the top end of the price range.
>Science Vessel
>Dual Cannons
>Hangar bay
shutupandtakemymoney.jpg
Finally, a FED equivalent of a Kar'Fi (pressumably). Dream come true - day one purchase for me.
For those concerned about Vesta having "fighters" - its book version does have a large flight deck and several shuttles and runabouts at its disposal, so it's not really canon bending or anything.
Can't wait for a Dev Blog with stats and such. Now I hope we'll get a Fleet Kar'Fi for the KDF to keep things "balanced" (*cough*).
Tac: Can mount dual cannons and has a higher turnrate with tactical focus.
Sci: Has the special deflector/console and can use sensor analysis with science focus.
Eng: Can equip fighters and is Engineer focused with console/boff slots.
Not sure how I feel about it having the hangar, though it gives us the third type (assuming the Atrox is the cruiser carrier and the Armitage the escort carrier).
Ugh. Apologies. I didn't realize the pylons were so screwed up on the Regent, too.
i just hope they bring out a suitably powerful klingon ship too
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
Why can't I get my super OP -Vesta?? What is so wrong with them giving me what I have been asking for for months rrincy? Something that I said will sell maybe as many ships as the Oddy.
if it is indeed a multi ship pack like the flagships , im just really hoping they do a KDF equivalent , they really need sci ships
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
The KDF does need a "real Klingon" Science ship - not some other race. But they have already said making Klingon c-store ships are "not cost-effective" so don't hold your breathe.
guess we'll find out
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
There will be no KDF ship until 2013 at the earliest - they have said that many times. There is Zero chance of any KDF ship coming out same time as Vesta - it would have been telegraphed way in advance to calm down some KDF players if that were the case.
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016