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purvee1
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So I need your help.
The problem is simply, I have a Gorn Tactical and want him in a Gorn ship. At T5 I have one, and only one option, a science vessel, and as we all know sciences vessels are a bit short of fire power. I think I've beaten as much capability out of it as I can, but that still makes me feel like it won't be enough for Elite STF's.
Now here's the issue.
I've played my Gorn as a Pro-Gorn independence type, so having him cut around in the pride of the Klingon fleet seems a little off. So as a good little nationalist he wants a Gorn ship, or at least one that's been obtained from the Gorn, not from the Klingon fleet.
One idea I had was someone flogs a second hand ship on, which he buys (or the Gorn fleet buys). But alas I don't know enough of the background (Because its always changing depending on Which star trek franchise you look at) to make that call.
The other issue is in Game. I tried out a B'rel torpedo boat, and in STF's it wasn't much better than the Varnaus he's got at current. So Its really something I can make a mess with in game and fits in with the background.
Obviously the Lockbox ships would work, but unless anyone wants to get rid of one of them for tons of GPL and 20mil I'm bang out of luck (yeah I know how utterly stupid that sounds).
I suppose the obvious answer is the holo-emitters, however my big complaint at those is they run out, if they didn't then I'd be fine with using those.
The problem is simply, I have a Gorn Tactical and want him in a Gorn ship. At T5 I have one, and only one option, a science vessel, and as we all know sciences vessels are a bit short of fire power. I think I've beaten as much capability out of it as I can, but that still makes me feel like it won't be enough for Elite STF's.
Now here's the issue.
I've played my Gorn as a Pro-Gorn independence type, so having him cut around in the pride of the Klingon fleet seems a little off. So as a good little nationalist he wants a Gorn ship, or at least one that's been obtained from the Gorn, not from the Klingon fleet.
One idea I had was someone flogs a second hand ship on, which he buys (or the Gorn fleet buys). But alas I don't know enough of the background (Because its always changing depending on Which star trek franchise you look at) to make that call.
The other issue is in Game. I tried out a B'rel torpedo boat, and in STF's it wasn't much better than the Varnaus he's got at current. So Its really something I can make a mess with in game and fits in with the background.
Obviously the Lockbox ships would work, but unless anyone wants to get rid of one of them for tons of GPL and 20mil I'm bang out of luck (yeah I know how utterly stupid that sounds).
I suppose the obvious answer is the holo-emitters, however my big complaint at those is they run out, if they didn't then I'd be fine with using those.
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Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
Good in theory, but all those ships will be federation. You know it, I know it, even my other half's cat knows it.
Prolly true, but it's early in the morning and my warm/fuzzy feeling hasn't yet been crushed by reading todays STO news and these forums.
Awoken Dead
Now shaddup about the queues, it's a BUG
ok that is just damn funny...
Kar'fi? Maybe built by Klingons but certainly not one of theirs.
A Nausicaan Destroyer? The Gorn and the Nausicaans were allied prior to their conquest.
And there are always lockbox ships.
Doubt there will ever be any further Gorn ships though.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
That Naussican idea is handy, As I didn't know that sort of info. Mirror Raptor is certianlly an idea.
Thanks.
Maybe the Qu'Daj, but I think it looks silly..
Thanks.
DSTahl and his henchemen made that very clear.
An eng/tac heavy cruiser for gorn would be nice. Maybe a flight deck cruiser for Nausicaans and and escort/science ship for Orions.
Which came first, the Lizard or the egg?
Do people not fly them because they're a Science ship, or because they're a Gorn ship. I think I have an idea...
I don't fly them cause they only have a lt tac slot, otherwise I'd be all over it. Make it LTC and I'll buy it immediately from the c-store
Rrezeth, Gorn Tactical, primary alt
Nari, Orion Science, secondary alt
Hey, people keep crying for KDF science ships. Yet they don't sell. I just mentioned it because of a dev comment. He basically said it's a waste of time and effort to create gorn stuff because it's not popular.
Nethertheless I would like to see a bit variation in the non Klingon KDF ships.
Gorn=science, Orion=cruiser and Nausicaan=escort is a bit onedimensional.
The KDF playerbase supposedly makes up about 18% of the population.
So when ships sell as well as on the Federation side compared to the amount of players you'd still end up selling roughly 4-5 times that amount on the Fed side.
That's probably what they mean by that.
But instead of attemting to increase the population on the KDF side (which would also increase the sales of ships they've already put out moths ago) they just tell us...well they don't talk to us that much nor do they fix our bugs.
People don't fly the Phalanx and the Draguas because they're Commander and Captain level ships, respectively. The only reason anyone should be buying the Draguas at all is to get Aceton Assimilators. . .the Phalanx has the Barrier Field, which is not useful. Buying the Phalanx is a waste of Zen, in the eyes of anyone who's thinking ahead and planning on buying T5 C-store ships. The Draguas is only useful to someone planning on using Aceton Assimilators.
The Varanus is the only decent Gorn vessel that's worth buying for the sole purpose of USING it. It's reasonably maneuverable (I think), the repair drones are damn useful, and it can tank fairly well (1.2 shield mod, 28.5k hullpoints with 3 eng consoles). However, it's not for everyone who might want a sci ship. So, sales are impacted.
If someone on the KDF wants to have a decent sci build, they either have to fly the Varanus, the Vo'Quv or Fleet Vo'Quv (giant lumbering beasts, not nimble maneuverable ships like the Feddie sci vessels), a mediocre BoP setup, or maybe a Kar'fi with it's Commander and Ensign sci slots. The options are not ideal, and most of them are flown like cruisers, which limits their ability to use sci skills that require the target to be right in front of 'em.
Of course, Cryptic doesn't really give a damn about the KDF faction. We've always been at the bottom of the heap, given the occasional smattering of crumbs. They're not gonna put in the resources to actually complete the faction and put it on par with the Federation in all aspects. We're the 'dirty, smelly, evil Klingons', the bad guys that have been ridiculously stereotyped by most of the STO content that involves Klingons. We're only here because they wanted an 'enemy' for the 'good guys' (who haven't been behaving like good guys in STO) to shoot at.
That would be sexy as hell
Rrezeth, Gorn Tactical, primary alt
Nari, Orion Science, secondary alt
Rear Admiral , Engineering Division
U.S.S. Sheffield N.C.C. 92016
It's harder than you'd think. The NPC models are too low-quality to become player ships, so they'd have to reconstruct then from scratch. That would take nearly the same resources as a brand-new design.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Sorry, but I'll have to disagree with you there:
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7628/screenshot2010080216042.jpg
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8468/screenshot2010080215522.jpg
http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7329/screenshot2010080215512.jpg
this can easily compete with many of the ships we have on the KDF side.