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psycoticvulcan
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Cryptic has indicated that they hope to introduce a playable Romulan Star Empire faction in the -future. So, what would you like to see in it?
My ideas:
Playable races: Romulan, Reman, Hirogen
Ranks:
- Uhlan (0-9)
- Centurion (10-19)
- Sublieutenant (20-29)
- Subcommander (30-39)
- Commander (40-49)
- Admiral (50)
Playable ships:
Uhlan: Bird-of-Prey (light escort)
Centurion: Lanora-class (science vessel), Seeker-class (escort)
Sublieutenant: Apnex-class (science vessel), Hunter-class (escort)
Subcommander: Mogai-class (escort), Venatic-class (science vessel)
Commander: D'deridex-class (cruiser), Apex-class (science vessel)
Admiral: Scimitar-class (cruiser/carrier), Huntmaster-class (science vessel)
Small craft: Romulan shuttle, Scorpion Fighter, T'Liss Fighter
Notes:
- Cryptic has said the Romulan faction probably won't have Hirogen, but I figured I'd include them just in case.
- additional ships can be created to fill the roles of dedicated Cruisers, Escorts, and Science Vessels
- ranks can be compressed if Romulan faction isn't full 0-50 levels
- Romulan ships will all have Reman skins
Let's hear some of your own ideas!
My ideas:
Playable races: Romulan, Reman, Hirogen
Ranks:
- Uhlan (0-9)
- Centurion (10-19)
- Sublieutenant (20-29)
- Subcommander (30-39)
- Commander (40-49)
- Admiral (50)
Playable ships:
Uhlan: Bird-of-Prey (light escort)
Centurion: Lanora-class (science vessel), Seeker-class (escort)
Sublieutenant: Apnex-class (science vessel), Hunter-class (escort)
Subcommander: Mogai-class (escort), Venatic-class (science vessel)
Commander: D'deridex-class (cruiser), Apex-class (science vessel)
Admiral: Scimitar-class (cruiser/carrier), Huntmaster-class (science vessel)
Small craft: Romulan shuttle, Scorpion Fighter, T'Liss Fighter
Notes:
- Cryptic has said the Romulan faction probably won't have Hirogen, but I figured I'd include them just in case.
- additional ships can be created to fill the roles of dedicated Cruisers, Escorts, and Science Vessels
- ranks can be compressed if Romulan faction isn't full 0-50 levels
- Romulan ships will all have Reman skins
Let's hear some of your own ideas!
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
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What I heard was "we would like to do it", maybe you read something I didn't
I think what everyone is mainly focused on is it only being a new skin with no story aka "sub faction" in oppose to new content.
Me I just want a romulan carrier with cloak so I can send the fighters in and be afk cloaked watching a movie while grinding stf
I never cared about the so-called story since it doesn't have any impact on gameplay; when I play sto I am the story.
I only ask for everything, I want to have a story I can impact and that impacts the game.
If it's just a poor cutscene with some random text.. well I am too old for that
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ps.
But ofc it would need a romulan homeworld and the classic uniforms for starters - it's easy to imagine them making the romulan faction a level 50 unlock so that they don't have to build 5 tiers of ships though : /
False.
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Could you provide some links to this confirmed info?
Everything I have read (Dev posts, Stahls Ask Cryptic&Raptr Q&A), listened to, etc, have shown them bouncing around the idea of a playable Romulan in the KDf/Federation.
Which is saying we know you would like us to but as of yet no plans. Unless you actually have a link, I'd love to see one if you do
Dec '07 Account
I EARNED 1000 days...I didn't BUY it! New LTS=Death to Vet.System: 10/10/12 Never Forget
Something should be done for those who cared enough to have a 1000+ day sub.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Captain, U.S.S Transcendent
Explorers Fleet, Senior Member
http://www.stowiki.org/Federation_Dreadnought_Cruiser
http://www.stowiki.org/Odyssey_Star_Cruiser
http://www.stowiki.org/Vo'quv Carrier
http://www.stowiki.org/Bortas Battle Cruiser
The NPC versions of the above ships are all dreadnoughts. So the Scimitar could work as an endgame ship.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
Beginning:
*5 Starter Missions before directing you to PvP. Where you will grind til Cap.
*Very few customization options for Characters and Ships
*A Ugly Green UI That WONT BE CHANGED.
*A very small area to fly around. Will not be given access to Fed and KDF areas.
*Very standard Bridges
Middle:
*New Ships will be released via CStore
*New Missions are cross faction missions like STFs/FEs
*New Customization will be limited and only trickle out
*New Bridges will be released via CStore
*Captains will be given access to Fed KDF areas via Diplomacy.
End:
*Promises made in the past of fleshing out the Romulans will be broken
*The New Faction: Borg will be announced. Ending any hope Romulans will get a fair shake.
I don't get why people keep mentioning a Borg faction , how would it even work , you log on do a task as part of a computer controlled team and receive orders via a constant voice over?
Also you are on a huge cube with 30,000 crew, have no control over it at all , but you can fix sub systems.
And said ships are so big in sector space and on maps they cause loading issues and bugs.
Fed and KDF and Rom (if it comes) you are an individual member ranking up from a low ranking unknown to a so called hero, the Borg have no interest in such things, unless they are going to become a ranked diplomatic force , that ask worlds kindly to become Borg and then leave if not.
Talk about not reading someones comment. It was meant as a jab at how the Devs have decided to move on to a Romulan Faction while leaving the KDF a mess.
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no they hope to introduce romulan that join the Feds and KDF as i call it Romulan Shortcuts
This^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ is what us romulan fans have to look forward to Feds and KDF romulans
system Lord Baal is dead
And you believe them? If Cryptic was serious, theyd have never bothered to bring up the subject. Theres no point in generating discussion about something that wont happen for an obviously long time. They dropped this info because they want a response, they want to see if they have a base of players they could cater to with a new faction.
I believe that the KDF faction will never become fully fleshed out with faction specific content as the "return on investment" would not be financially enough to warrant undertaking the time and effort.
There is just not enough interest from Trekkies and Trekkers to warrant the considerable time and effort to providing content for any faction other than the Feds.
sadly this ^^^^
system Lord Baal is dead
Perhaps it's my unreasonable optimism, but I disagree. I do think that they'll create a 1-20 for the KDF.
I think that there is plenty of appetite from trekkies to play as a Romulan. Now, is that statement conjecture? Yeah, of course it is, but it's just as much conjecture as saying that people won't play as Rommies.
I think the forum and chat activity in-game demonstrates that people are certainly talking about it. It does seem like people want to fly Mogais or Warbirds. I think that providing a unique experience will pay off. Cryptic has said that they are (thinking of) taking a "build it and they will come" attitude. I say Godspeed. Go for it. I know I'll enjoy it.
Think about the tie when PWE got ahold of STO nad said they wanted to invest in KDF...and look at the state of the KDF now....yeah I Still see no difference at all.
Dec '07 Account
I EARNED 1000 days...I didn't BUY it! New LTS=Death to Vet.System: 10/10/12 Never Forget
Something should be done for those who cared enough to have a 1000+ day sub.
I think that there is a very good chance that there's a high level of potential demand for a Romulan faction. Note I say "potential" because it does not yet exist, and will probably have to be put together and released to exist.
There are three main factors involved in this that make me think along these lines.
1. A LOT of current Trek nerds cut their teeth on TNG. During the TNG era, the Klingons were seen as somewhat dubious allies, but allies nonetheless, and we even had one of the most noteworthy Klingons (and by far the best defined in the lore) shown to us every week in the form of Worf. It is by virtue of his existence that much of Klingon culture has even been so well thought-out. Although the short war in DS9 shows just how shakily the KDF alliance holds, the TNG alliance basis nevertheless ingrained a default status of "ally" on them. While I believe that most understand that STO goes back to the TOS status quo, except being in an active war instead of border skirmishes, it's still a bit knee-jerk to not think of Klingons as "the bad guy faction," or even a major consideration. Note I do not say ALL or even MOST; this is merely a conjecture.
The ROMULANS on the other hand were bandied about as the major direct opponent in most of TNG. Cardassians were in there for flavor, to be sure, and the Borg were the super-foe that made everyone wet their pants, but much of the antagonism was directly between the Federation and the Romulans. As such they may "feel" more like the main foe of the Federation.
2. Portrayals. The Klingons may well seem to be - again, seem to be - simplistic brutes that leave thinking behind for their blades and glorifying indiscriminate slaughter. Their structures tend to be considerably more rustic and bare-bones in motif, and their ships are fairly dungeon-like. This may leave the impression that the Romulans are the more sophisticated foe, both in terms of culture, technology, and motives. While the Romulans are thought to be trying to outwit the Federation and goad them into actions they deem advantageous, the KDF may come off at first blush as "KLINGON SMAAAAAAAAASH."
3. Ship designs. Frankly? The D'deridex is one of the very few non-Federation ships I actively WANT to command. The Klingon ships are pretty cool, but the D'deridex, at least for me, is something else. This is particularly since in many ways it was portrayed as the anti-Galaxy - it was always the ship the Romulans pulled out to counter the Enterprise in TNG, which was the most powerful combat vessel in the Federation at the time, commanded by the best crew in the fleet.
All of these elements, and others, come together to make a Romulan faction quite viable - if they build it.
Again, just my $.02.
Well, obviously it can't have the Battle Cloak and Thalaron Weapon. Maybe a standard version that launches Scorpions, and a retrofit that adds a standard cloak or the Thalaron weapon (not both equipped at once).
Oh, and I second red01999's statements.
"Critics who say that the optimistic utopia Star Trek depicted is now outmoded forget the cultural context that gave birth to it: Star Trek was not a manifestation of optimism when optimism was easy. Star Trek declared a hope for a future that nobody stuck in the present could believe in. For all our struggles today, we haven’t outgrown the need for stories like Star Trek. We need tales of optimism, of heroes, of courage and goodness now as much as we’ve ever needed them."
-Thomas Marrone
And on a more positive note, what would I like to see in a Romulan faction? Well firstly, more species. Hirogen are great, but they're more "we'll help you under the condition we can hunt in your space, otherwise you're on your own." I think they'd pull out if it got too much for them. The Hirogen would need to be a C-Store purchase I think.
On top of that, (and with the recent mention of their system) I'd throw the Suliban into this faction. I'd have no doubt there are remnants of the Kabal still in existence, and such would be perfect for their style of operations.
Another two species I'd add to the Romulans are the Kovaalan and Mazarite. The Kovaalan are only seen by the way of their ships, though they're said to be highly territorial (the Romulans like their territory and its secrets kept hidden thus there is a similarity there), and the Mazarite (in the episode they were seen in) were being run by a corrupt government. Granted this would be some 300/400 years apart here, but depending upon how deep such a corruption went that could lead them into the 25th century and into an alliance with Romulan cults.
Otherwise: http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=407271
I really don't think Cryptic is capable of taking the KDF where KDF fans want it to be or go. If they can't even do that, then in my mind and based on what Cryptic has actually done with STO, there is no hope for any sort of Romulan faction. Or any other faction.
S7 will bring in the reputation system that will be used to build up a Fed or KDF embassy in Romulan space. But it will also serve to put the Romulan faction in a precarious position - as just another bad guy found only in stories and missions. The more Romulans we get in missions and storylines, the lower the chances become of having a playable Romulan faction introduced.
I did read your comment and yes I Quoted you, but that is because you mentioned it and I'v seen it on almost every Romulan Faction thread, so I feel things needed to be layed out straight. It just wouldn't work and making it work would mean it wasn't the Borg any more.
I quoted you merely because it had been mentioned , the way you meant it was of not of importance and I don't believe I made out it was your one wish for the game. I said "people" in the form of a generalisation , if I had wanted to stab directly at you , it would of been "people like you".