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I've Been Away: Romulan Faction?
felderburg
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I've been away from the game for a while, and I am troubled by some of the things I'm seeing. It appears to me that rather than an actual playable Romulan faction, people that want to have a Romulan character will be forced to choose Fed or Kling as their faction. Is this actually the case? I would be very disappointed if it were.
Join Date: July 29 2008
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No confirmed details, but everything we've heard so far suggests what you're saying is true.
the most likely option they have discussed if and when it happens (and things can and probably will change) the result is you will be able to create a romulan, have a romulan crew and fly a romulan ship and have some romulan missions to start you off but you would then ally yourself with either the feds or kdf.
you would then have access to some if not all of their missions. possibly with some tweaks to provide a reason as to why you are helping either faction to somehow benefit the romulan empire in the long run.
Like Mists of Pandaria then?
This very much so. I have always imagined that basically the Romulans will just replace the starter missions levels for KDF and Fed, the culmination of which would result in you becoming an honored member of the kdf/federation and continuing the missions from that faction. I would think that Romulans would go KDF and the Remans would go Fed.
Only problem with this though is we get a somewhat limited ship selection choice as they are all low tiered. If they made the higher tiered ones such as the d'dedirex cruiser they are likely Z-store only and flown by half the playerbase.
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Yeah.
And my prediction is that in spite of forum complaints, this was decided before we ever got polled. Stahl was hinting at it a year ago.
In S7, next month, we have a Romulan Embassy open up and Feds and Klingons will compete to turn the Romulans against the other side. (Klingons pushing them to fight Federation. Federation pushing them to fight Klingons.)
I bet we tear this group of Romulans down the middle.
And I suspect Stahl will say something like, "This is a FORM of playable Romulans now. A faction would take years to develop. We might in time but we decided that our game isn't built for three factions and might never be. So while we aren't ruling out a third faction years down the road, THESE playable Romulans offer a taste of that within our two faction framework."
And I think this whole thing is less than a year out. S7 is basically the prequel to it and it might hit before S8. Could even be the high ticket C-Store item for Christmas this year since they seem to like having bundles for the holidays.
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Like I say, the diplomatic answer may be that this doesn't rule out a Romulan faction.
Or, heck, maybe what will happen is that the Romulans split down the middle, Fed and KDF, and then when the max rank gets raised, a storyline happens with a new Romulan leader and the refugees choose between staying in the Federation or Klingon Empire and following a new leader, looting whatever they got in the Fed and KDF and taking it back to the reforming Romulan Empire.
So it splits off like WoW Pandarens but you get the option to re-merge later.
I really hope it is not this.
We don't know it's a missed opportunity yet.
The speculation on J'mpok being Undine makes zero sense but it's clear he has a hidden agenda.
He's tied in with Torg and Duras. He's all but discommended the House of Martok and Worf is banned from setting foot in the High Council chambers. He's doing something shady with the Orions.
My guess is either that J'mpok has secret ties to the Romulans (and Iconians) and has basically either stacked the whole High Council with loyalists or is using the Orions to control the Council. (There's a bit about him bringing 500 Orion slave girls to Qo'nos.)
I agree that Klingon politics would be nice to see more of but I get the feeling that J'mpok has completely subverted Klingon politics somehow and is also not supposed to be representative of Klingon politics.
Here we go:
2409 v. 9 Ch. 4
2409 v. 13 Ch. 3
2409 v.15 Ch.1
2409 v. 15 Ch. 2
My inference is that J'mpok was allied with the old Duras family and has more non-Klingon connections... and that he struck a deal with the Orions to seduce and mentally enslave all of his political opposition. The Council now speaks for J'mpok above the wellbeing of their own houses.
Does STO have enough of a player population to support 3 factions?
I think the answer to that question will answer a number of others...
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Its not a bad system if they do it and it makes sense. Right now in the galaxy the romulan faction has gone rogue and is splintered beyond belief. It makes sense for romulans to want to difect to the Federation or the Klingon Empire... however I wouldn't mind seeing Romulans go to Fed and Remans go to KDF because the hatred between the Romulans and Klingons is legendary.
Story wise you could also see a Romulan civil war where the Fed backs one side/leader and their troops, and the Klingons back another which would be a great reason to have Romulans or Remans in either faction (and get around the Klingon-Romulan hate). My only request is that they don't put USS or IKS infront of Romulan ship names.
Raychul - Remen Sci Officer
Lumba - Ferengi Eng Officer
Vadesca - Orion Eng Officer
AKA: Yavin_Prime
There is room for people to play any and all factions which may get introduced.
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Even if it does have the population, does enough of that population want to play anything other than Federation?
Really, I think my great "hindsight" suggestion going back to 2008 would be to either make the game all Federation or follow the Guild Wars model (and, honestly, the WoW expansiuon model) where quests are performed on behalf of third parties.
As in, it's faction specific for 10 levels and then you never hear from your faction superiors again except when they want to give you something.
I don't see why J'mpok has to be permanent. Just make the hall instanced and flag which version people get (with J'mpok or without J'mpok) based on quest completion.
Also, time is funny in MMOs. Sometimes a change happens retroactively for new players.
you do realise thats 200 years?
It does make sense that there'd be a new romulan sub-faction that realizes that the romulans need a strong ally. And the UFP likes to make lots of contracts and treaties and diplomatic procedures to ensure that some day peoples like romulans could join the federation.
KDF likes new allies too. I think, a campaign based on the political uprise of Sela would be a great starting thing for romulans as a playable faction, but after that the gameplay can easily tie in the faction you chose. A romulan character could already start out on captain-rank and then, after the inner affairs are resolved be sent out on a mission to seek help from the most powerful factions which happen to be at war atm.
I have a couple of high end Klingons. I'm saying MAKE it instanced if it becomes an issue.
All you do is add a door and the door ports you to one of two interior maps. One with J'mpok and one with someone else.
Reassign promotion missions to someone else.
Quinn has very little to do with promoting the war and very little story or personality.
J'mpok's corruption is an ongoing storyline that will come to a head at some point.
I've seen leaders get replaced quite a bit in MMOs. It's not undoable. And it's not like that isn't where that plot is headed.
Replacing him doesn't mean an end to the war. Replacing him is a plot which is pretty excruciatingly set up in the game's lore and I'd consider it a dropped story if there wasn't advancement on that story.
Yes. He's saying he doesn't expect it at any point in our lives, period.
I can't say he's wrong. Things like Fleet Advancement make designing a Romulan faction even harder because you not ONLY need ships and story content but you need starbases with projects and variants of ships.
Assuming this plan of Stahl's with the Romulan's as we are presuming they'll be handed out, a la Mists of Pandaria. Then if things go well then it's worth the effort to push and push for the completion of the Romulan faction that I have no doubt they've probably got a few things for but have had to put them on the back burner for other projects.
Also considering the shear length of time it's going to require. This is more than likely the testing and the buying of time until they can push out the Romulans which more than likely if anything will be suckage much like the Klingons at the game's opening, remember that?
Yeah.
I'd also guess that to play into the already MoP'd Rommies there'd be KDF and Fed Embassy's on the said newbie Romulan world.
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Now the Cardassians...
That's just wishful thinking.
I'd prefer they became a playable character, just makes much more sense.
Also if I'm not mistaken, didn't the Romulans have the Hirogen with them too? I mean, let's also consider this the KDF players have options, as to their race... what would you have the Romulans include, and what would be your take on a first ten - twenty level content for the Romulans and would you have them be unlockable like KDF [for those new players] and straight out available for lifers? [Personally they should be straight out available for lifers, I mean they just got jipped, and this is coming from a former subscriber who so loves the F2P].
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and both will ask for them things till the game gets shuts down and to be frank Feds dont have much room to ask for any thing but yet they always get new mission and KDF get the same thing as they do ya!!!!! KDF helping a weak species from a strong one sounds more like a job for the Feds then KDF game going on all most 3 years and yet KDF is still is as half baked as the day the game came out
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I'd be willing to buy into this theory... if the KDF wasn't in the shape it's in.
You and Daan are correct, absolutely. However, Cryptic as we all know may just as well undoubtedly do the same to the Romulans.
I myself still have a level 22 Orion on the KDF side and I've played on and off from the start of the game. [Mind you I only have one level 50 Fed and one alt and she's already level 22 and I've had her less than the Orion].
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