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Khitomer Accord Space Elite - WAY TOO HARD

altlexingtonaltlexington Member Posts: 49 Arc User
Hi Captains,

Do you think Khitomer Accord space elite has been made way to hard ?
I do.
I have been at it now for weeks trying to get that last piece of proto-tech to complete my STF collection, I have all except the Omega MK XII Engine, even all the Accolades.
When I say weeks I mean all day every day, in fact its taken me four months to get this far since I began STF's.
I've seen all the video's and read all the Wiki and other posts several times over and over to know what Im doing, I even bought a new stronger ship and kitted it out properly, and yet still no proto-tech.
If its taken me an all day every day player four months to get this far then my advice to week end players is "Dont waste your time doing STF's".
I mean, what does it take to get the proto-tech, a billion trys where 99% of atemps end in a failed mission.
If the drops that contain the proto-tech are just random chance then its not fair because a noobie could get the proto-tech first try when an elite regular could play a thousand trys and still not get it.
There has to be some set rules on what must be done to get the proto-tech or we are all just wasting our time only to loose it to noobs.
Ive got nothing against noobs since I was one once myself and I hate the way they get all the abuse just for mistakes when trying to learn, but still, proto-tech should be ernt not given away randomly.
Anyway my point is Khitomer Accord space elite is way way to hard even for elite.

Now I will wait for all the people to brag here saying how easy they find it.
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Hi Captains,

    Do you think Khitomer Accord space elite has been made way to hard ?
    I do.



    Anyway my point is Khitomer Accord space elite is way way to hard even for elite.

    Now I will wait for all the people to brag here saying how easy they find it.

    Um... before I start going on about how Khitomer is probably the easiest one, first I would like to know what you find so difficult about it. Because last I checked, drop rate does not affect the difficulty level of the map.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Thread moved to the Missions and Episodes Feedback forum.

    As a reminder, putting threads in the most appropriate forums increases the chances that a responsible Dev will actually see them and read them. Devs are not obligated to reply, however.

    Also, your issue is not very clear... Is your feedback about the mission difficulty, or about not getting the drop you're playing for?

    If it's about the drop, you should be aware that there are changes planned for STF rewards that might affect your ability to claim the STF rewards.

    If it's about mission difficulty, the Devs will need more information about what the issue is.
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  • hanoverhanover Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    This is hilarious. :D
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  • trhrangerxmltrhrangerxml Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    They are all pretty easy on Elite, I was hoping they would add a new difficulty. Its pretty rare that I actually die in one now a day or we don't get the optional.
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  • marc8219marc8219 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Well if you need the engine you need to do cure space elite, not khitomer.
    As far as Khitomer space elite goes, its the only STF I regularly pug since its the easiest and almost never fails, I usually get optional even with pug too.

    As long as you can solo cubes pretty quick or even better can kill a cube while guarding probes at same time its pretty easy to carry a bad group through it.
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  • dariusmajeredariusmajere Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    KASE... HARD..... * passes out in Laughter* KASE and KAGE are Easily the more simple of the eSTF's.
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  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Guys guys... give him a chance to tell us why he has trouble with the map before we laugh him off the forums (something I see coming in the near future).
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • xcom43xcom43 Member Posts: 723 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    KAE is easy

    CSE is the hardest out of all three

    ISE is the easiest.

    It is most likely your Skill setup is wrong.And you are not doing any damage.
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  • bubblygumsworthbubblygumsworth Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    In all honesty, I believe that all space stfs need a boost in difficulty. A massive boost imo. On the other hand, ground stfs need a bit of work though. Whole map aggro and borg one hit shots from tac drones really suck.
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  • nikkyvixnikkyvix Member Posts: 241 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Hi Captains,

    Do you think Khitomer Accord space elite has been made way to hard ?
    I do.
    I have been at it now for weeks trying to get that last piece of proto-tech to complete my STF collection, I have all except the Omega MK XII Engine, even all the Accolades.
    When I say weeks I mean all day every day, in fact its taken me four months to get this far since I began STF's.
    I've seen all the video's and read all the Wiki and other posts several times over and over to know what Im doing, I even bought a new stronger ship and kitted it out properly, and yet still no proto-tech.
    If its taken me an all day every day player four months to get this far then my advice to week end players is "Dont waste your time doing STF's".
    I mean, what does it take to get the proto-tech, a billion trys where 99% of atemps end in a failed mission.
    If the drops that contain the proto-tech are just random chance then its not fair because a noobie could get the proto-tech first try when an elite regular could play a thousand trys and still not get it.
    There has to be some set rules on what must be done to get the proto-tech or we are all just wasting our time only to loose it to noobs.
    Ive got nothing against noobs since I was one once myself and I hate the way they get all the abuse just for mistakes when trying to learn, but still, proto-tech should be ernt not given away randomly.
    Anyway my point is Khitomer Accord space elite is way way to hard even for elite.

    Now I will wait for all the people to brag here saying how easy they find it.


    Please explain to us the circumstances in which you are having difficulty with the STF, and those of us with a higher-than-High-School social adjustment will see if there's some way we can address your concerns.

    After all, I believe it's the role of us veterans who have flown hundreds of these Elite STFs to help out those who have not yet committed to that many hours of play and experience.

    If you are basing a 'failure' on the fact that you do not get the drop you want (I am assuming here), then what was mentioned earlier should be kept in mind: The difficulty does not affect the drop rate of prototype tech.
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  • altlexingtonaltlexington Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    For the record I did mean the Cure mission not the Khitomer Accord mission, I got the names the wrong way round.

    The mission itself is way to hard when all it does is end in failure most of the time and even with a stronger ship and better equiped it hasnt changed a thing, still die all the time.

    The other missions I get through quite well its just Cure that throws me.

    First you kill Nanite probes atached to cubes starting with the bottom ones or else warship will apear to early, well when I do that I get agro from the Cube every time and die.

    If I defend the Kang from any ships that are launched I die, no matter how much I try.

    If I do a combination of both I die.

    The only time I seem to be ok is when its time to pop the Cubes because when everyone is focused on the same Cube as they should be the Cube will then ignore me most of the time.

    Im also ok fighting the carrier at the end, but the mission usually fails long before that when the Kang is destroyed.

    Basically the Cube kills you if you destroy probes no matter where your posistioned and the ships kill you if you defend Kang.

    Now thats the mission straightened out onto the drops.
    Are drops random chance for getting proto-tech because it seems that way due to playing missions where I was the star player and still didnt get the engine.
    If it is random then its not fair, it should be ernt instead or a noob would get the drop before some one who has been hard at it for weeks.
  • altlexingtonaltlexington Member Posts: 49 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    And now isnt it odd that just 2 trys on cure after creating this thread, on the very next day, I get the proto-tech that I wanted.
    The mission was a failed opptional and I wasnt really trying, Ive done way better on previous trys, so why now.
  • hereticknight085hereticknight085 Member Posts: 3,783 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Whether or not you get the opt has no effect on end mission loot. Also thank you for the clarification, CSE can be a pain in the rear, whereas KASE is stupidly easy.
    It is said the best weapon is one that is never fired. I disagree. The best weapon is one you only have to fire... once. B)
  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    For the record I did mean the Cure mission not the Khitomer Accord mission, I got the names the wrong way round.

    The mission itself is way to hard when all it does is end in failure most of the time and even with a stronger ship and better equiped it hasnt changed a thing, still die all the time.

    The other missions I get through quite well its just Cure that throws me.

    First you kill Nanite probes atached to cubes starting with the bottom ones or else warship will apear to early, well when I do that I get agro from the Cube every time and die.

    If I defend the Kang from any ships that are launched I die, no matter how much I try.

    If I do a combination of both I die.

    The only time I seem to be ok is when its time to pop the Cubes because when everyone is focused on the same Cube as they should be the Cube will then ignore me most of the time.

    Im also ok fighting the carrier at the end, but the mission usually fails long before that when the Kang is destroyed.

    Basically the Cube kills you if you destroy probes no matter where your posistioned and the ships kill you if you defend Kang.

    Now thats the mission straightened out onto the drops.
    Are drops random chance for getting proto-tech because it seems that way due to playing missions where I was the star player and still didnt get the engine.
    If it is random then its not fair, it should be ernt instead or a noob would get the drop before some one who has been hard at it for weeks.

    class & build would help if you're still trying this, especially in PuGs...

    But, two things:

    1. Pair up, if you're an escort, then get a cruiser to tank with/for you...
    2. Come in low. While the cube has more diameter than the probes, the cube is higher than the probes, so if you come in from "under" the structure, you can get probes in range but not have the cube in 10km of you...
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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    Funny. I think the STF Elites have been made way to easy. I can tank a tac cube with my escort. Isn't that a clear sign? Surely there's a way to increase the difficulty without reintroducing the "one shot and you're down" setting?
  • jellico1jellico1 Member Posts: 2,719
    edited October 2012
    For the record I did mean the Cure mission not the Khitomer Accord mission, I got the names the wrong way round.

    The mission itself is way to hard when all it does is end in failure most of the time and even with a stronger ship and better equiped it hasnt changed a thing, still die all the time.

    The other missions I get through quite well its just Cure that throws me.

    First you kill Nanite probes atached to cubes starting with the bottom ones or else warship will apear to early, well when I do that I get agro from the Cube every time and die.

    If I defend the Kang from any ships that are launched I die, no matter how much I try.

    If I do a combination of both I die.

    The only time I seem to be ok is when its time to pop the Cubes because when everyone is focused on the same Cube as they should be the Cube will then ignore me most of the time.

    Im also ok fighting the carrier at the end, but the mission usually fails long before that when the Kang is destroyed.

    Basically the Cube kills you if you destroy probes no matter where your posistioned and the ships kill you if you defend Kang.

    Now thats the mission straightened out onto the drops.
    Are drops random chance for getting proto-tech because it seems that way due to playing missions where I was the star player and still didnt get the engine.
    If it is random then its not fair, it should be ernt instead or a noob would get the drop before some one who has been hard at it for weeks.



    Cure cubes made easy

    Have the guy guarding Kang come over and attack the cube
    Until the cube attacks him , he then leaves
    And goes back to Kang, the cube will keep targeting him
    Even though he is out of range.

    Now you can attack the nanite regenerators
    And the cube won't attack you unless you use a Aoe
    Attack, Don't .

    Tykens rift is very useful to drain weapon power
    From the bad guys here, tractor repulsers are
    Very good as well to defend Kang

    If your I'n a cruiser read the shield threads
    And tank threads
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  • hippiejonhippiejon Member Posts: 1,581 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    All day ?
    Every day ?
    For four months ?

    I'm sure others will give you great advice on how to improve your play in the STF.
    I just want to take a moment to implore you to find other hobbies as well as video games.

    Also, how do you do all day, every day ?
    Do you have a job ?

    Seriously, this game is great.
    I think we all love it, in our own way, despite the loud complaining here on the boards some days. But man, all day, every day for four months is not healthy, I am actually concerned here, not trying to be an TRIBBLE!

    I hope you get your tech.
    Please. Spend less time in the game.
    Real Life can be pretty cool some times.
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