Help with fine tuning my K'tinga....

cliftona91 · October 2012

I am running a Engineer in a Fleet K'tinga Battlecruiser, and I want to make it more suitable for PVP. I have it specced for team healing while making sure I do at least some damage to contribute to the fight.

My Doffs are three Officers to help reduce cool down time for Emergancy Power to X abilities, all Rare and two officer to improve Brace for Impact.

Weapons are:

Fore: Quad Cannons, Dual Heavy Disruptor Cannons, Dual Beam Bank, need ACC x2 versions

Aft: Three Beam Arrays, Mk XI. I need to get at least ACC x2 versions

I have two slots free. One had a Bio Neural Warhead, the other a Tricobalt, but I am willing to replace those with anything else you suggest.

Bridge Officers

Ensign Tac: Tac Team 1
Lt Tac: Tac Team 1, BO2
Commander Eng: ET1, AuxtID, ES2, AuxtSIF3
Lt Com Eng: EPTA1, EPTS2, RSP1
Lt Science: TB1, HE2

I am open to any and all criticism. I know I still need improvement. And yes, I have read Ghosty (aka Mavairo's) cruiser thread and I thank him for the thread.

The Doffs allow me to have only 1 copy of EPTS and EPTA up about 90% of the time.

When I use this in PVP, (both private matches with up to 9 other people and a PUG) so far, the ship can take a good beating and it able to dish out as good of damage as I am gonna get from an Engineer. But I know I still need improvement.

cliftona91 · October 2012

Oh I forgot my consoles and other equipment:

Engineering: 2 Neutronium armor MK XI rare, Point Defense Console, Plasmonic Leech (I am willing to replace the Point Defense, but not the Plasmonic Leech)

Science: 1 Field Generator MK XI rare, Assimilated console

Tactical: 3 Disruptor Induction Coils MK XI rare

Set: KHG Shield MK XII, Borg Engine, Borg Deflector

cmdrparthos · October 2012

Id actually get rid of the B/As in the back in favor of turrets, put a second DHC up front, maybe swap out the quad for a third.
The BO2 is a nice kick when needed, id keep the dual beam bank off auto fire for this reason

Look at swapping the point def for either an RCS console or a sif generator. Turn better or heal better

Also, consider dropping the Aux to Damp for a DEM1 to get more damage out of your weps. You aren't running a CRF so you will get full effect out of the DEM.

Hope this helps!

cliftona91 · October 2012

I heard that DEM doesn't do enough to justify using it. Is this true?

trueprom3theus · October 2012

First, yes, it seems dem is borked, at least dontdrunk tested it and I believe him entirely. It seems the damage applied to hull is not working with crf/csv/faw.

Second, if you use the leech, put 2 flow cap consoles in sci, you should get easily about +20 to all power levels when firing weapons (if you also have flows maxed out on skill tree). You definitely get too many benefits from leech to ignore this, lol. Use Borg, leech, and 2 neutronium for engi, and since you use 2 tac teams and hg shield, you don't need field generator at all, hg is big enough to go well without it. I'd also ditch disruptors, they kinda suck now, better use lolarons or tetryons that also benefit from flow capacitors. You need though at minimum eps2, I'd go using an eps3 especially while puging. Hg shield is too big and with low regen, so you will have hard time keeping it full. Also, keep the deflector and engine from omega handy, with 2 flow cap consoles and max in flows on skill tree you should have a decent drain from Tetryon glider.

dontdrunkimshoot · October 2012

DEM currently does nothing wile damage over time tactical abilities like FAW and CRF are running, so thats 1 problem. their damage is spread out over such a long period that any heal from a friendly can make it disappear faster then it can be caused.

the ktinga is a personal favorite of mine, and i could tell you how to make it a tactical monster, but your an eng. but thats ok, this ship is basically an assault cruiser with an 11 turn rate and has awesome support potential.

sadly, all an eng can really do is support, their ability to damage is quite limited. theres 2 routs you can take, 8 beam arrays or 4 DHCs/4 turrets. you can keep the quad cannons if you like. the ktinga is in a unique position of being extreamly maneuverable, having access to the highest damage weapons, and having access to a large number of holds and snares that wont negatively effect your build is you use several of them. its a great ship for laying down heavy damage plasma clouds, its so maneuverable that you can use use it offensively, instead of hoping your opponent accidentally flys into it

see this build, and this thread for my offense ktinga build

http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showpost.php?p=5619141&postcount=35

you can use this on your eng, it just wont deal quite as much damage

for support i would use this

TT1, FAW1
TT1

EPtS1, RSP1, EWP1, ES3
EPtW1, AtS1, ET3

TSS1, HE2

fully aux buffed HE2 is EXTREMELY powerful, and with ES3 the extra TSS doesn't need to be as strong imo

like in the build in the link, use damage control doffs to make it so you only need 1 of each EPtS and EPtW to get full up time. also use 8 beam arrays with FAW to take out spam for the team. with your turn rate you can be were you are needed pretty easily, easier then any fed cruiser, keep with someone your extending shields to. you can also befuddle someone pretty well with EWP so he is more vulnerable to attack. you could use the cannons too, you would just have much lower damage up time, but you could spike harder when your team focuses on someone and yu shoot at them too. dont forget to throw TT on people often if they look like they are about to get blindsided, or are nt smart enough to balance thier shields.

i would use these consoles and equipment for this setup

borg engine and deflector, KHG or fleet resistant shield

eng
borg, SIFx2, neutronium

sci
field gen, emitter arayx2

tac
3 energy type

cliftona91 · October 2012

Interesting suggestions. I plan to run cannons on it, and it seems I will have to get rid of one Tac Team in order to downgrade BO2 for BO1. Will I need to invest in Doffs to lower the Tac Team cooldown?

dontdrunkimshoot · October 2012

cliftona91 wrote: »

Interesting suggestions. I plan to run cannons on it, and it seems I will have to get rid of one Tac Team in order to downgrade BO2 for BO1. Will I need to invest in Doffs to lower the Tac Team cooldown?

you could do that, but BFI doffs are some of the nicest to have. 2 purple BFI doffs, 2 purple damage control, and 1 purple conn would get you everything with TT on an at least reduced cooldown. thats a bunch of pricy doffs though. on kdf you can get a purple from the tier 4 doff store, and replicate a purple hologram too once you get to tier 4 engineering, so that takes care of that al least. you can get a purple BFI doff from the rolor nebula chain, everything else you would have to pony up ec for.

cliftona91 · October 2012

Also, if I get rid of two of my Borg stuff for the Omega Stuff, that would take away from my ability to take hits. Is it really worth it to sacrifice that for the Omega Set?

dontdrunkimshoot · October 2012

cliftona91 wrote: »

Also, if I get rid of two of my Borg stuff for the Omega Stuff, that would take away from my ability to take hits. Is it really worth it to sacrifice that for the Omega Set?

omega is an offense set, you gain the glider that when buffed with lots of flow cap deal good extra damage to shields, but of course you use the random heals of the borg set. wile those heals are nice, your in a cruiser, you don't NEED them in most cases. just depends on if its your goal to deal damage or play more defensibly.

cliftona91 · October 2012

Good point Drunk.

I have replaced the Disruptors with Polaron weapons, all with at least Acc x2 and respecced my engineer with 6 into Flow Capacitors (and 6 into Power Insulators) and reassigned what my BO's have and I am pleased with the results. By no means am I an escort, but at least I am doing something

Also changed the consoles, 1 RCS Accelerator, 2 Neutronium Alloy, Plasmonic Leech

Science: 2 Flow Capacitors, Borg Console

Tac: 3 Polaron Phase Modulators

Just need to get the 2 pieces of the Omega Set I need and I am good to go.

cidstorm · October 2012

You dont really need the RCS console imo, proper throttle control will get you plenty of angles on any ship. If you're trying to chase down escorts with out slow abilities you're probably doing it wrong. Just keep your duals pointed at a cruiser or sci and your buddies should be able to take down the escorts, or realize the cruiser you're facing is in a bad place. Pug pvps are now at the point where most cruisers/sci are learning to heal, so you will have to do that too, wait till you squeeze of a burst and then help someone out if they need it. The K'tinga is a great ship, just yesterday I tanked an escort, time ship, and an assault cruiser long enough for my team to take most of the capture points.

shimmerless · October 2012

cliftona91 wrote: »

Also, if I get rid of two of my Borg stuff for the Omega Stuff, that would take away from my ability to take hits. Is it really worth it to sacrifice that for the Omega Set?

That's an intelligent question and it's tough to answer, it depends on whether you want to play offensively or not. I take Omega two-piece on most ships (on a cruiser, if you need to be healing off that much damage you're probably going to be dead anyway) but I definitely feel the hurt if I'm in a more fragile ship and I start taking heat. It's completely your call.

cliftona91 · October 2012

I took most of the people's suggestions and modified my K'tinga, then decided to test it out, first in a couple of Elite STF's, where it performed admirably (someone on the PVP forums once told me anything that works in PVP will do PVE no problem), then I took it into Kerrat.

Warped in right in the middle of a fight and began shooting. So far, the new K'tinga can dish out some and take hits. I only died by the combined might of 3 escorts (And technically a D'kora as well) and I am sure I took on a Defiant Retrofit and won.

Thank you all for helping me with this build

Help with fine tuning my K'tinga....

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