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TRIBBLE Maintenance and Release Notes - September 27, 2012

zer0niusrexzer0niusrex Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited October 2012 in Tribble - Announcements and Release Notes
We will be bringing the Tribble server down for maintenance to apply a new update.
ST.20.20120909a.20

General:
  • The turn rate debuff applied by the Warp Theorist Duty Officers through Tachyon Beam is no longer lasting longer than it ought.
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    trek21trek21 Member Posts: 2,246 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    And we have a winner for shortest Tribble patch notes :D
    Was named Trek17.

    Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
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    burstdragon323burstdragon323 Member Posts: 853 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Nearing year three, and still no turn improvement for FED Cruisers.
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    llyodstylesllyodstyles Member Posts: 33 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    burstdragon323 wrote: »
    Nearing year three, and still no turn improvement for FED Cruisers.

    But they are cruisers.....They are meant to be slow and clumsy(sort of) and even in the ovies cruisers didn't have that great a turn rate
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    chaosuk83chaosuk83 Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    llyodstyles wrote: »
    But they are cruisers.....They are meant to be slow and clumsy(sort of) and even in the ovies cruisers didn't have that great a turn rate
    Yeah, but there is slow turning and then there is cruisers that turn slower than Titanic playing chicken with an iceberg...
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    hippiejonhippiejon Member Posts: 1,581 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    :(
    Sad Hippie is sad.

    Was hoping to see more white blob fixes from the taco head, as they are still showing up everywhere. Was hoping to see either more or a confirmation that all the pathing errors and spawn screwups brought on with the Sept 20 Live Server patch were fixed.

    Along with the kind of minor bugs throughout you have been sneakily fixing recently.
    That's the kind of notes we want to see. The warp theorist debuff certainly counts as one of those small fixes. While awesome, very sad that this is all that is in these notes.

    sad hippie is sad.
    I will go lament over a bowl of cornflakes.
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    darkwhite0darkwhite0 Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    chaosuk83 wrote: »
    Yeah, but there is slow turning and then there is cruisers that turn slower than Titanic playing chicken with an iceberg...

    I play two years with cruise and I do not see any problem to turn the ship ...
    maybe the problem is learning how to play with the ship
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    yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    darkwhite0 wrote: »
    I play two years with cruise and I do not see any problem to turn the ship ...
    maybe the problem is learning how to play with the ship
    Maybe there is a problem in understanding that other people may have other expectations. A ship that needs 45-60 seconds for a full turn is DEFINITELY too slow turning. This is not acceptable and certainly not how Star Trek ships where moving on the shows or in the movies. I don't care about MMO balancing, i expect Star Trek ships be like the ships they are in all other media (movies, TV, even other games).
    Slow flying Bricks with no satisfying firepower are not how big Starfleet ships are on TV or movies.
    I can understand the Devs love escorts but the are making a Star Trek game here, not a Star Wars game. If they don't like it i am sorry for them, but they shouldn't turn Star Trek ships into some WWII/ Star Wars ship relations.

    Last week they buffed escorts without ANYONE even needing this. It's not even funny anymore.

    Crusiers need a serious Firepower/Maneuverability buff since start of STO. Since then, the devs are resolved to ignore this and give any advantage to escorts instead.
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    https://youtu.be/d-f3bscZa0E?t=105
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
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    eristhevortaeristhevorta Member Posts: 1,049 Bug Hunter
    edited October 2012
    Escort: Very low HP, medium shields, very high turn rate, high burst damage and DPS, cannon and dual cannon ability, low heal abilities.
    Cruiser: High HP, medium shields, low turn rate, but more weapon slots to cumpensate and higher base damage for each weapons (specially beam array), meaning higher DoT than any other ship, medium heal abilites.
    Science: Low to medium HP (higher than escort, not lower!), very high shields, medium DPS, medium DoT, very high science damage powers with longer cooldown, high heal abilities and 1 more console slot than ANY other ship.

    That's how I see the balance. Gravity Well etc. needs even more damage to cumpensate for the lower stats of the sci ship.
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    hitherowhitherow Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    chaosuk83 wrote: »
    Yeah, but there is slow turning and then there is cruisers that turn slower than Titanic playing chicken with an iceberg...

    Here's a simple solution. Drop to 1/2 impulse. Your ship's turning arc will be sharper. Most cruiser captains (If they know this) will drop to 1/2 Impulse to sharpen the turn. Besides, Cruisers are more of a Broadsider than they are a frontal assault ship.
    [SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]

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    yreodredyreodred Member Posts: 3,527 Arc User
    edited October 2012
    eristhevorta wrote: »
    Escort: Very low HP, medium shields, very high turn rate, high burst damage and DPS, cannon and dual cannon ability, low heal abilities.
    Cruiser: High HP, medium shields, low turn rate, but more weapon slots to cumpensate and higher base damage for each weapons (specially beam array), meaning higher DoT than any other ship, medium heal abilites.
    Science: Low to medium HP (higher than escort, not lower!), very high shields, medium DPS, medium DoT, very high science damage powers with longer cooldown, high heal abilities and 1 more console slot than ANY other ship.

    That's how I see the balance. Gravity Well etc. needs even more damage to cumpensate for the lower stats of the sci ship.
    Unfortunately the devs see things like this:

    Escorts get everything.
    Cruisers and Science get nothing.
    Period.

    They even buff escorts even though noone demanded or needed it. :D
    "...'With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured...the first thought forbidden...the first freedom denied--chains us all irrevocably.' ... The first time any man's freedom is trodden on, we're all damaged. I fear that today--" - (TNG) Picard, quoting Judge Aaron Satie

    A tale of two Picards
    https://youtu.be/d-f3bscZa0E?t=105
    (also applies to Star Trek in general)
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