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sonulinu2
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Sorry for covering this old topic but I seem to be finding contradictory information, or at least info thats confusing to me.
According to STOWiki, "The EPS Flow Regulator is an Engineering Console that improves the power transfer rate between systems and recharge rates of a ship's power levels. It is helpful in recovering from power loss caused by a beam overload or full impulse."
Does this also mean that when I go full broadside on my cruiser beam boat and the power drops below 100, the EPS Flow Regulator brings it back up to 100(+) faster? Or better yet, mitigates the drop in power level?
If this was the case it would seem rather helpful for a beam boat, but I see lots of forum posts say its a wasted console space. Im confused.
According to STOWiki, "The EPS Flow Regulator is an Engineering Console that improves the power transfer rate between systems and recharge rates of a ship's power levels. It is helpful in recovering from power loss caused by a beam overload or full impulse."
Does this also mean that when I go full broadside on my cruiser beam boat and the power drops below 100, the EPS Flow Regulator brings it back up to 100(+) faster? Or better yet, mitigates the drop in power level?
If this was the case it would seem rather helpful for a beam boat, but I see lots of forum posts say its a wasted console space. Im confused.
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there is also on engineering captain ability that profits from it. the one that increases all power levels...with the EPS console the power levels increase faster.
console is only usefull if you switch between powerlevels often (in PVP when you are under heavy fire you wanna switch to increased shield power)
and if you use beam overload, to get your weapon power to max level twice as fast, but an EPtW can do that too.
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found that not only observing the power levels but runing combatlogs and comparing them with 0,1 and 2 eps flow regulators and the final damage and dps are enhanced increasing EPS flow, furthermore you can switch from a attack to defense to heal setup in no time which i guess is vital.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=160696
"Weapon Energy Drain Mechanic Changes
The weapon energy drain mechanic will be changing once this build goes to Holodeck. Weapon Power drain is now instantly refunded at the end of a weapons firing cycle, instead of a slow return as was previously implemented. Multiple weapons being fired at the same time will still produce a significant drain and will affect their damage proportionately, but once the weapons stop firing, the weapon power level will immediately return to normal.
This change was primarily inspired by player feedback - specifically on the topic of the energy drain caused by firing multiple bursts of energy weapons. Players may now fire all of their energy weapons repeatedly burst after burst, but the damage for each weapon is still diminished during the firing cycle.
As a result of this change to the energy drain mechanic, the EPS Flow Regulator Station Mods, will no longer have an effect on DPS. They will continue to function to improve power transfer rates between different systems."
As you can see there is a lot of old information out there and like the poster above me they still believe this console helps their energy drain from firing weapons when it clearly does not and hasn't for over 2 years.
the problem is only, that the EPS console does not help you to recover weapon energy from normal beam fire...only from beam overload.
Not only people say otherwise also the description does and atleast a dozen tests done by other people.
It does however effect your powerlevels drastically when you switch powers to heal for instance.
I'm not sure what you observed with your combat logs, but i can assure you those 2 EPS consoles are a complete waste if you are not using beam overload, or switching between powers constantly.
it is exactly that kind of misinformation that brought forth this post in the first place.
Also there is to consider, that if you spend 0 points in power distribution system, the console is worthless because it is a percentage based value. and 100% of 0 is still 0.
PS: D'kora beam boat, srsly? how much more gimping a potentially good offensive cruiser can there be?
What's next? playing the fleet vor'cha as a heal cruiser?
This.
There was some chatter a while back over whether the "extra shot" that you get from running BFAW is affected by EPS or not... I've never bothered to actually sit down and test this personally, but I suspect the extra shots work the same way as normal shots (reserves energy temporarilly rather than consuming it - whereas Beam Overload simply consumes it)
kattarn what ship is that in you signature? I really like it, is that the new negvahr refit/variant?
My advise would be to only use EPS Flow Regulators to speed up Power Transfer Rates if you are switching your power schemes (i.e. Offfense, Defense, Speed, etc) during combat. Or you like to charge into combat at Full Impluse and then open fire. Or if you use Beam Overload. In all cases, EPS consoles will give your a big benefit.
No.
And whilst the poster above comes to the same conclusion, they are spouting classic misinformation regarding the mechanics of weapons power drain.
During the firing cycle, whilst your Weapon Energy is not at the maximum amount your ship does NOT try to rebuild the power at the Power Transfer Rate. There is no "restore time" - not even a tiny sliver of it. This is because no Weapons energy has been consumed or lost - just reserved.
It used to be the case that firing weapons consumed energy, and EPS flow regulators at that point in time did raise your DPS - having high EPS meant that you could constantly regenerate the weapons power that was being consumed by your weapons. This behaviour was changed a long time ago, by having weapons not "consume" but "reserve" weapons power.
The difference between energy being reserved and consumed/lost is a notable one, because energy can only regenerate if it is consumed/lost.
In a standard weapons firing cycle (No FAW, No BO) weapons power is currently reserved at the beginning of the weapons cycle. At the end of the cycle, this reserved energy is released again. Because the reserved energy is technically "still there" (albeit temporarilly unusable) you can't regenerate it.
The developers have stated outright that EPS Flow does not affect DPS any longer. From here - "As a result of this change to the energy drain mechanic, the EPS Flow Regulator Station Mods, will no longer have an effect on DPS. They will continue to function to improve power transfer rates between different systems."
You can see this happening if you shoot multiple beam arrays, beams have a long firing cycle of several seconds which makes it very easy to see power changes: when firing, you'll notice that your weapons power level dips down and remains at a a "settled" level until the firing cycle is finished. The power doesn't rebuild during the firing cycle no matter how many EPS consoles you slot, it remains constant until the first beam finishes firing.
And you are absolutely right. I realized a flaw in my testing routines based upon another erroneous bit of information. AFfer restesting and adjusting for that bad information, EPS consoles provide absolutely no benefit for Weapon Firing Cycles.
To me I find them useful but each build is different.
1.)if you use beam overload 2 or 3...BO1 drains much less power
2.)if you charge into combat with full impulse on a regular bases
3.)if you tend to switch between power levels regularely
if you can get your hands on the ferengi combat module, use that instead. adds 47% EPS and 11% torp and mine dmg and some 17 points to flow capacitor.
D-70/ Khin'Vagh Class battleship i like she too
Kattarn@Peliagus If you want to see this D?kora beam boat in action just pm me in game and we can do a 1vs1 anytime :cool:
yeah why not, probably a stalemate anyway.
So yes it does help if you use Beam Overload (as I do) but the benefit is not worth the spot on my ship as I do not go into battle at full speed and I do not switch the power levels presets. I personal use Emergency Power to Shields (EPTS) with a +XX.X% to Shield Power Setting for 30 seconds and Hazard emitters with a +XX.X All Damage Resistance Rating for 15 seconds to slow down the damage taken versus having to switch to a maximum shield power level setting to heal them.
-- I am off topic now --
The reason that I do not power level change to heal shields is for my shields I have invested in Starship: Shield Performance, Starship: Warp Core Potential and Starship: Warp Core Efficiency that gives me a Shield Power Setting of 72 when set at 50 (UI Display: 72/50). I have invested in EPTS I and II when one is used it sets off the timer for the second one at 30 seconds and the one just used for 45 seconds so as long as you press the buttons you will always have a EMPTS active to bring your Shields Power Setting (for me) to 96/50 or 103/50.
This translates into Shield Generation (SG) of 284 or 312. For comparison an unmodified 50/50 Shield Power Setting has a SG of 100 and a 125/50 Shield Power Setting (game max) has a SG of 400.
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