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cosmoscola
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Several times, Captains have been forced to seek shelter in a nebula, or - in the atmosphere of a planet.
Imagine: Being able to take your ship into an atmosphere of a planet, and have a real cat and mouse fight. Science classes may for example have a more advanced sensor arrays that allows ships to be seen at greater distances than other classes. Or, less power to the sensors may leed to that nasty bloom effect, that makes it even less easy to find your opponent.
Maybe some de-buffs depending on the type of planet you dive into.
What do you think?
Imagine: Being able to take your ship into an atmosphere of a planet, and have a real cat and mouse fight. Science classes may for example have a more advanced sensor arrays that allows ships to be seen at greater distances than other classes. Or, less power to the sensors may leed to that nasty bloom effect, that makes it even less easy to find your opponent.
Maybe some de-buffs depending on the type of planet you dive into.
What do you think?
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First off, you have your normal space map. And as you approach a planet, you get the atmospheric entry effect, but when you are doing so, the planets disappear and the flat terrain of a planetery surface appears. Due to the bluring, you don't see this.
Just need to add atmospheric effects similar to the effects used in fludic space. And the terrain has to be convincing for the duration of the map as if you are flying over the surface.
And ships that are capable of landing on the surface of worlds (Defiant and Nova were remarked to have Landing capability, but never seen. As well as the Intrepid and the BoPs) you have a kind of graphics that have a unique graphic that lowers the landing gear prior to touchdown. Once you land, you have a disembark que and you are on the surface of the planet. And the ship you are flying shows up in the background.
So to me, STO is capable of pulling it off.
YOU!!! YOU HAVE BEEN HACKING MY MIND!!! How did you learn how to mind meld!?!? I was talking about this very thing with a friend a few days ago! :eek::eek:
Seriously though, ship to ship combat in the upper atmosphere of a Gas Giant, or Shuttle races through canyons (with collisions turned on! :P), landing your BoP on an alien world to hunt its various fauna for trophies! How cool would that be?
And yes, Klingons going to worlds to hunt dangerous animals would be a nice thing. Especially if we could mount our trophies above the Starbase Fireplace.
Now the question, does Cryptic do cool?
that would be pretty odd considering how off scale the planets are compared to the ships no?
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I think that the gravity and pressure of a gas giant would crush a starship if it tried to fly through one.
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Below the stratosphere? That is, like, ten kilometers off of the ground. Most ships would be destroyed if they attempted that.
Sadly no. . . While atmospheric flight is something we've tossed around a few times, there's no "good" way to pull it off currently. We can't swap a planet for terrain as you say, without swapping maps, so we could have you fly to the planet, click a door, and then enter the terrain map.
However, there's a fine balance necessary between the size of the map (which has hard limits before computers start imploding) and the speed you can fly. We've talked about using small craft (shuttles) for this kind of thing, which would make scaling a little easier.
Even then, any landing would have to be handled through a cut scene most likely.
While I haven't played Champions Online, I doubt what the flying vehicles there are doing atmospheric reentry from space.
In STO, we already have flying vehicles. The Romulan/Reman arc has us escaping fighters or destroying them from the ground.
Now, can we have a ground map where your ship is flying through the sky? Maybe. We did have those bugs in beta where your ship avatar spawned in ESD instead of your captain's avatar. Very interesting to trade Slug-a-cola with a Miranda-class ship.
What I think Tacofangs is saying is that making the transition from space to atmosphere won't be you steering your ship down to the planet manually.
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You can cut across a map without a loadscreen.
For example, certain doors. Cutscenes do this and you were able to include bridge cutscenes on space maps by stashing the bridge on a remote part of the map. It's also how respawning works and I've seen some Foundry missions pull some great teleporting tricks with respawns.
You could theoretically have a planetary/atmospheric area and a space area sharing a map.
When the planet gets close to the planet, their spawn location gets changed to the atmosphere and they get a forced respawn when they hit the rumbly, white atmospheric effect. Which spawns them in a boxed off portion of the map.
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One of my favorite scenes in TNG. Proves that there are plenty of captains out there with the ability to think on their feet, not just the "Hero" characters.
On the actual topic, don't know how feasible that would be...plus wouldn't it ruin your ground pvp match if someone flew their cruiser down to the planet and did Fire-At-Will? You just killed 18 players on the other faction lol...;)
Forget fire at will... Let's try Cannon scatter volley with turrets all around. I would just plant my Defiant 1km above a Klingon spawn point and set weapons to autofire. :rolleyes:
Devs, make this an official thing. I dont mind having to zone to a new map. You could end up mixing and matching Capital ship segments (space) with fighter segments (atmosphere) and use that to highlight your upcoming default fighter and ship function.
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