/Meaningless whine on
Cryptic fix it
/meaningless whine off
In all honesty, checking logs wont actually help here. You need yo know the situatioon you was in that caused the mine to do so much damage.
For instance, My Phaser Lance can crit for 40K each hit if done right, pretty much you are dead, but that is with shields down and I have Buffs while im debuffing him.
Maybe your shields are down or weak.
I'm so tired of people crying to nerf every damn thing in the game, look what happen to the science class? Nerfed so much they forgot they are Science...
Just invest in Kinetic damage resistance and hit Brace for Impact....
/Rant Over
The Average PvP player
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
Mines are easily destroyed or outrun if you're not asleep at the keyboard.
You have to sacrifice a lot of weapon dps and overall survivability in skill spec and consoles to make mines effective and that's only if the target or target's teammates weren't paying attention.
Tric Mines are an all-or-nothing gamble that pay-off big when dum luck errs in your favor.
He was on my team xD We lost too. But hey! STILL NERF ALL SCI SKILLS! WE CANT HAVE SCI SHIPS DOING MORE THEN 200 DPS AND MORE THEN 100 HPS! ITS UNREALISTIC!
Science should just get instakilled when targeted!
pfft Just removeall sci boff skills from the game. thatle work.
EDIT: Starfleet comando if u didnt notice the large amounts of sarcasm in my capslock button u should also know im 1 of th pvpers trying to make cryptic boost everything to rediculusness
Since the player doing it is an atrox carrier (uses grav well 3) it is very likely he is a science capt.
Tricobalt mines doing crit damage on a sensor scan debuffed + snared (-def = +dmg) from the runabouts can reach such high numbers quite easily.
Also, the combat log does not show the true situation. It merely adds up total damage. That could have been the added damage of the tricobalts he dropped in the entire thing.. or it couldve been just one that went supercrit.
When tricobalts go crit they do so in a 1km sphere aoe damage which can hit everything around it..and spawn the subspace rift.
But you need multiple factors to make that happen though.
It IS very curious repulsor 1 did more damage than grav well 3. that's hilarious. Probably from repulsoring tons of little fighters all around it nonstop. This was in a mirror event right?
As soon as something is "OP" someone cries to a dev for a nerf.
This in PvP plus a tractor beam is fun. Instant grief button. Dont nerf these, just make the enemy NPC's harder to kill. Players, harden up.
Cannot believe you just admitted to using these as a grief tool -___-"
That in itself is enough for a nerf...
I won't lie and say I haven't tried these mines, but even hinting at the fact that using them in PvP is 'fun'...it's all fun and games until you get killed by them over and over again.
People are crying for a nerf because they are frustrated, purely because they are being griefed.
Tricobalt mines are still fine. No nerfs needed. Might want to put some ranks into sensors, though. Hitting speed bumps can be hazardous for your health. :P
He was on my team xD We lost too. But hey! STILL NERF ALL SCI SKILLS! WE CANT HAVE SCI SHIPS DOING MORE THEN 200 DPS AND MORE THEN 100 HPS! ITS UNREALISTIC!
Science should just get instakilled when targeted!
pfft Just removeall sci boff skills from the game. thatle work.
EDIT: Starfleet comando if u didnt notice the large amounts of sarcasm in my capslock button u should also know im 1 of th pvpers trying to make cryptic boost everything to rediculusness
Are you kidding, sciences have been nerfed nearly everysingle patch doing less than 200 dps would make it useless to do STF's, it depends on skill sets out try getting some skill.
I was in a C&H the other day and was dealt a killer tricobalt mine death on two occasions. I have no one to blame but myself for not being better prepared.
Oh, and I was in my BoP.
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Yep. getting hit by a tricobalt is really admitting that you saw a very,very slow moving mine flying towards you...leaving a nice, long blue trail as it approached...
and you did nothing about it.
Admit it. Tricobalt mines are the ONLY mines worth using. For such a long delay to activate, static deployment and even slower flight time.. and the fact that even the smallest explosion near them destroys them... using any other mine is a waste of time.
The only 'mine' weapon that is functional is the breen cluster torp..because the torpedo delivers the mines right next to target and the mines bypass a lot of shields. But quantums, photons, plasma miness.. absolutely worthless. I find it hilarious to see my slavers create an absolutely massive minefield and I drop a mine beta 2 in its midst just for lulz...
and watch a single Khitomer elite STF probe fly through it... and not lose more than half its hull from the combined damage of what is approximately 20 something mines.
But one tricobalt does the same job. Two kill it. THAT is an effective mine.
The only thing I hate about Tric mines is when players mine the Spawn in Kerrat with them! Did you know you enter that map with shields down? Personally, I would not warp in a system filled with borg with my shields down. Just won?t do it!
Also, on Fed Side, Tric mines kill BOP?s because cloaked ships have no shields. So please do not nerf Tric mines as I find so much joy in watching a BOP randomly explode from the mines.
Cannot believe you just admitted to using these as a grief tool -___-"
That in itself is enough for a nerf...
I won't lie and say I haven't tried these mines, but even hinting at the fact that using them in PvP is 'fun'...it's all fun and games until you get killed by them over and over again.
People are crying for a nerf because they are frustrated, purely because they are being griefed.
NERF DEM PWEEZE!
Well at first I just thought it was cool to blow stuff up with pretty looking explosions (anything).
I guess I could say it was more of a revenge thing to start with that evolved into a grief thing (Oh my, what have I become?!).
Being ganked by countless of feds just after reset in Ker'rat sucks balls, I tried my best to not fire at them first while trying to move away from the spawn before engaging enemies. But every time, some ******* opens fire or drops EWP etc... no honour at all.
So now I drop trics everywhere and anywhere, just to TRIBBLE everyone off (I do try to keep them off the spawn though).
You have to admit, it was kind of funny one-hitting you and who ever was with you at the same time when everyone else was trying to crack those impenetrable shields that you guys were rolling with. When I get bored or when they get nerfed I'll switch to something else.
You have to admit, it was kind of funny one-hitting you and who ever was with you at the same time when everyone else was trying to crack those impenetrable shields that you guys were rolling with. When I get bored or when they get nerfed I'll switch to something else.
'everyone else' may be two of the worst players I've ever come across
And using those mines makes the person look like a total noob without any pew skills :P
One good thing about them is it is a good counter cloaked alpha tactic. No longer can a BoP or Def-R pop out of cloak and just sit on your rear as a cruiser captain (maybe not DPBIII but can get DPBII on the Excel-R and D'Kora), pew pewing unless they're prepared with TBR or ready to hit evasives with PH.
Again, they require a very specific and unique build/spec which sacrifices much in overall dps and defense for an all-or-nothing chance that your opponent is overconfident.
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CRYPTIC NERF REPULSORS ITS A SCI ABILITY SCIS CAN DEAL DAMAGE BUT BUT BUT MY TACTICAL ESCORT JUST GOT KILLED BY TBR IT NEEDS TO BE NERFED NAO
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Caps intended Thsi entire post is optional to read i really dont care xD
In all honesty, checking logs wont actually help here. You need yo know the situatioon you was in that caused the mine to do so much damage.
For instance, My Phaser Lance can crit for 40K each hit if done right, pretty much you are dead, but that is with shields down and I have Buffs while im debuffing him.
Maybe your shields are down or weak.
I'm so tired of people crying to nerf every damn thing in the game, look what happen to the science class? Nerfed so much they forgot they are Science...
Just invest in Kinetic damage resistance and hit Brace for Impact....
/Rant Over
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
1) Teamwork and timing is #1
2) You cannot "Kirk It" in every ship
3) You are going to die, just get back up
Don't say that to loudly, else they add it to the nerf list.
Mines are easily destroyed or outrun if you're not asleep at the keyboard.
You have to sacrifice a lot of weapon dps and overall survivability in skill spec and consoles to make mines effective and that's only if the target or target's teammates weren't paying attention.
Tric Mines are an all-or-nothing gamble that pay-off big when dum luck errs in your favor.
Science should just get instakilled when targeted!
pfft Just removeall sci boff skills from the game. thatle work.
EDIT: Starfleet comando if u didnt notice the large amounts of sarcasm in my capslock button u should also know im 1 of th pvpers trying to make cryptic boost everything to rediculusness
Tricobalt mines doing crit damage on a sensor scan debuffed + snared (-def = +dmg) from the runabouts can reach such high numbers quite easily.
Also, the combat log does not show the true situation. It merely adds up total damage. That could have been the added damage of the tricobalts he dropped in the entire thing.. or it couldve been just one that went supercrit.
When tricobalts go crit they do so in a 1km sphere aoe damage which can hit everything around it..and spawn the subspace rift.
But you need multiple factors to make that happen though.
It IS very curious repulsor 1 did more damage than grav well 3. that's hilarious. Probably from repulsoring tons of little fighters all around it nonstop. This was in a mirror event right?
I use 2x Tricobalt mines [CritD]x 3 (Purps) + 4x TCD Subspace Infuser MKXI (Purps) and dispersal pattern Beta III.
I party like its 1999.
[Combat (Self)] Your Mine Explosion deals 120627 (106293) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Donatra's Ship.
[Combat (Self)] Your Mine Explosion deals 136282 (105987) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Donatra's Ship.
[Combat (Self)] officer Tricobalt Mine deals 132452 (82781) Kinetic Damage(Critical) to Donatra's Ship with Mine Explosion.
This in PvP plus a tractor beam is fun. Instant grief button. Dont nerf these, just make the enemy NPC's harder to kill. Players, harden up.
Cannot believe you just admitted to using these as a grief tool -___-"
That in itself is enough for a nerf...
I won't lie and say I haven't tried these mines, but even hinting at the fact that using them in PvP is 'fun'...it's all fun and games until you get killed by them over and over again.
People are crying for a nerf because they are frustrated, purely because they are being griefed.
NERF DEM PWEEZE!
Are you kidding, sciences have been nerfed nearly everysingle patch doing less than 200 dps would make it useless to do STF's, it depends on skill sets out try getting some skill.
Oh, and I was in my BoP.
STO Forum member since before February 2010.
STO Academy's excellent skill planner here: Link
I actually avoid success entirely. It doesn't get me what I want, and the consequences for failure are slim. -- markhawman
and you did nothing about it.
Admit it. Tricobalt mines are the ONLY mines worth using. For such a long delay to activate, static deployment and even slower flight time.. and the fact that even the smallest explosion near them destroys them... using any other mine is a waste of time.
The only 'mine' weapon that is functional is the breen cluster torp..because the torpedo delivers the mines right next to target and the mines bypass a lot of shields. But quantums, photons, plasma miness.. absolutely worthless. I find it hilarious to see my slavers create an absolutely massive minefield and I drop a mine beta 2 in its midst just for lulz...
and watch a single Khitomer elite STF probe fly through it... and not lose more than half its hull from the combined damage of what is approximately 20 something mines.
But one tricobalt does the same job. Two kill it. THAT is an effective mine.
Also, on Fed Side, Tric mines kill BOP?s because cloaked ships have no shields. So please do not nerf Tric mines as I find so much joy in watching a BOP randomly explode from the mines.
Well at first I just thought it was cool to blow stuff up with pretty looking explosions (anything).
I guess I could say it was more of a revenge thing to start with that evolved into a grief thing (Oh my, what have I become?!).
Being ganked by countless of feds just after reset in Ker'rat sucks balls, I tried my best to not fire at them first while trying to move away from the spawn before engaging enemies. But every time, some ******* opens fire or drops EWP etc... no honour at all.
So now I drop trics everywhere and anywhere, just to TRIBBLE everyone off (I do try to keep them off the spawn though).
You have to admit, it was kind of funny one-hitting you and who ever was with you at the same time when everyone else was trying to crack those impenetrable shields that you guys were rolling with. When I get bored or when they get nerfed I'll switch to something else.
'everyone else' may be two of the worst players I've ever come across
And using those mines makes the person look like a total noob without any pew skills :P
No moar please!
Most experienced PvP'rs laugh at these.
I like to call tric mines noobsweepers
One good thing about them is it is a good counter cloaked alpha tactic. No longer can a BoP or Def-R pop out of cloak and just sit on your rear as a cruiser captain (maybe not DPBIII but can get DPBII on the Excel-R and D'Kora), pew pewing unless they're prepared with TBR or ready to hit evasives with PH.
Again, they require a very specific and unique build/spec which sacrifices much in overall dps and defense for an all-or-nothing chance that your opponent is overconfident.