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Some very quirky things in The Doomsday Device...

voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
edited September 2012 in Federation Discussion
I just finished my fourth run of the mission The Doomsday Device for fun, and there were some strange things in it. It took me a while to finish the final battle considering I kept getting killed and the DDM would go back to 100%. But since it took so long I got to see plenty of strange things:

- Wells class ships. People have been seeing them as NPCs all over the place. They use antiproton weapons.
- A luna nebula class ship named 'Wells Class' that was firing antiproton beams.
- Several Galaxy-X ships, one was named U.S.S. Risa
- U.S.S. Crazy Horse. I'm not kidding. Did one of the devs do this as a joke?
- What looked like the Gamma section of a Prometheus MVAE flew right past my camera.
- The DDM or some other ship was using transfer shield strength. I kept seeing the TSS visual around the DDM.
- A nebula class used tachyon detection grid.
- The DDM used full impulse. While I was flying around trying to get a shot into it, it rocketed off and I chased after it. We flew far, far away from the rest of the battle where it slowed down, disappeared, and reappeared back near the destroyed moon with all its health (so frustrating!).
- Some Galaxy-Xs were called 'Armitage Class Escort Carrier' and I also saw bunches of fighters and shuttles flying around (:confused:).
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  • tobar26thtobar26th Member Posts: 799 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    voporak wrote: »
    I just finished my fourth run of the mission The Doomsday Device for fun, and there were some strange things in it. It took me a while to finish the final battle considering I kept getting killed and the DDM would go back to 100%. But since it took so long I got to see plenty of strange things:

    - Wells class ships. People have been seeing them as NPCs all over the place. They use antiproton weapons.
    - A luna nebula class ship named 'Wells Class' that was firing antiproton beams.
    - Several Galaxy-X ships, one was named U.S.S. Risa
    - U.S.S. Crazy Horse. I'm not kidding. Did one of the devs do this as a joke?
    - What looked like the Gamma section of a Prometheus MVAE flew right past my camera.
    - The DDM or some other ship was using transfer shield strength. I kept seeing the TSS visual around the DDM.
    - A nebula class used tachyon detection grid.
    - The DDM used full impulse. While I was flying around trying to get a shot into it, it rocketed off and I chased after it. We flew far, far away from the rest of the battle where it slowed down, disappeared, and reappeared back near the destroyed moon with all its health (so frustrating!).
    - Some Galaxy-Xs were called 'Armitage Class Escort Carrier' and I also saw bunches of fighters and shuttles flying around (:confused:).
    To answers many of these points - NPCs are using C-Store console parts now (MVAM, Tachyon grid etc). The off naming is whatever, I don't know what to tell you on that.

    The Crazy Horse I'm unsure what the issue is with that? Wasn't there a Crazy Horse in the show canon?
  • icegavelicegavel Member Posts: 991 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    tobar26th wrote: »
    To answers many of these points - NPCs are using C-Store console parts now (MVAM, Tachyon grid etc). The off naming is whatever, I don't know what to tell you on that.

    The Crazy Horse I'm unsure what the issue is with that? Wasn't there a Crazy Horse in the show canon?

    Yes, there was a Crazy Horse. It was Admiral Nechayev's courier to the Enterprise around the time of TNG: Descent. Excelsior-class.
  • kalvorax#3775 kalvorax Member Posts: 1,663 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    icegavel wrote: »
    Yes, there was a Crazy Horse. It was Admiral Nechayev's courier to the Enterprise around the time of TNG: Descent. Excelsior-class.

    Its also a monument in the works in South Dakota :)
  • hevachhevach Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The ship names in that mission have always been mismatched with the classes of the ships. I haven't seen it in any other mission.

    That full impulse thing is rubber banding. If you die and there are no other ships firing on the DDM, or just go too long without scoring a hit, it'll reset. If you're lagging when that happens, it can appear to do what you describe.

    Most of the other things are just products of the buff to Federation and Klingon allied NPCs.
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    hevach wrote: »
    The ship names in that mission have always been mismatched with the classes of the ships. I haven't seen it in any other mission.

    That full impulse thing is rubber banding. If you die and there are no other ships firing on the DDM, or just go too long without scoring a hit, it'll reset. If you're lagging when that happens, it can appear to do what you describe.

    Most of the other things are just products of the buff to Federation and Klingon allied NPCs.

    but gal-x's launching fighters and shuttles.... oooh i would love to have one of those. lol!!!!
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    voporak wrote: »
    - Wells class ships. People have been seeing them as NPCs all over the place. They use antiproton weapons.

    Wells class ships have been making appearances for a while now. I think it's a tease for future content.
    voporak wrote: »
    - A luna nebula class ship named 'Wells Class' that was firing antiproton beams.

    Wrong ship costume.
    voporak wrote: »
    - Several Galaxy-X ships, one was named U.S.S. Risa

    Dreadnoughts spawn sometimes. Nothing unusual there. "U.S.S. Risa"...lol.
    voporak wrote: »
    - U.S.S. Crazy Horse. I'm not kidding. Did one of the devs do this as a joke?

    U.S.S. Crazy Horse is a canon Star Trek ship; it appeared in TNG's "Descent". It was named for Chief Crazy Horse of the Oglala Sioux tribe, who resisted American takeover of his people's lands in the 1870s.
    voporak wrote: »
    - What looked like the Gamma section of a Prometheus MVAE flew right past my camera.
    - The DDM or some other ship was using transfer shield strength. I kept seeing the TSS visual around the DDM.
    - A nebula class used tachyon detection grid.

    C-store ships now spawn in-game. They use their special consoles in combat.
    voporak wrote: »
    - The DDM used full impulse. While I was flying around trying to get a shot into it, it rocketed off and I chased after it. We flew far, far away from the rest of the battle where it slowed down, disappeared, and reappeared back near the destroyed moon with all its health (so frustrating!).

    Must be a bug.
    voporak wrote: »
    - Some Galaxy-Xs were called 'Armitage Class Escort Carrier' and I also saw bunches of fighters and shuttles flying around (:confused:).

    The Armitage Carrier is in the game now. It must have been using the wrong costume.
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  • piwright42piwright42 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Psychoticvulcan already covered what I was gonna say about Crazy Horse, (a real historical figure), so my work here is already done.
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  • cusashorncusashorn Member Posts: 461
    edited August 2012
    I don't see why anyone would think it strange that there's a USS Crazy Horse. What is so weird about yet another ship named after a famous historical figure?
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    cusashorn wrote: »
    I don't see why anyone would think it strange that there's a USS Crazy Horse. What is so weird about yet another ship named after a famous historical figure?

    Lots of people haven't heard of the historical Crazy Horse.
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  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    those who would like to know about the historical figure "Crazy Hose" can click this link here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crazy_Horse
  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    tenkari wrote: »
    but gal-x's launching fighters and shuttles.... oooh i would love to have one of those. lol!!!!

    Gal-X can launch fighters, slot in the Scorpions you can in one of the Reman missions.
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Gal-X can launch fighters, slot in the Scorpions you can in one of the Reman missions.

    We're talking about the NPC versions.
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Lots of people haven't heard of the historical Crazy Horse.

    Who hasn't heard of Crazy Horse and the battle for Small Large Horn? :rolleyes:

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  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I forgot about Crazy Horse (the person) until you guys mentioned it. About the Gal-Xs, there were some name Armitage Class Escor Carrier and I saw perigrine fighters and type 8 shuttles flying around, not scorpion fighters.

    P.S. the deployable scorpion fighter says consumed on use and unique - max of one per character, so does that mean I can only launch one wave and then I have to go and do the mission to get more, or can I use it over and over?
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  • bookreader84bookreader84 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    voporak wrote: »
    I forgot about Crazy Horse (the person) until you guys mentioned it. About the Gal-Xs, there were some name Armitage Class Escor Carrier and I saw perigrine fighters and type 8 shuttles flying around, not scorpion fighters.

    P.S. the deployable scorpion fighter says consumed on use and unique - max of one per character, so does that mean I can only launch one wave and then I have to go and do the mission to get more, or can I use it over and over?

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  • whamhammer1whamhammer1 Member Posts: 2,290 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    We're talking about the NPC versions.

    I was aware of that, but its still can be done.
  • josephdridgewayjosephdridgeway Member Posts: 517 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    dalolorn wrote: »
    Who hasn't heard of Crazy Horse and the battle for Small Large Horn? :rolleyes:

    Sorry, as a tourism professional..

    If you're going to reference an important historical event in ANYONE's history, please, get it right.

    It's the Battle of the Little Bighorn.
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  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I was aware of that, but its still can be done.

    It can be done on the playable version. The NPC version of the Galaxy-X doesn't launch fighters.
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  • dalolorndalolorn Member Posts: 3,655 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    Sorry, as a tourism professional..

    If you're going to reference an important historical event in ANYONE's history, please, get it right.

    It's the Battle of the Little Bighorn.

    And if you're going to correct a joke, then please YOU do it right.

    It's the battle of Little Big Horn, or so I've read. :cool:

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  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    I hope the wells class is going to be more a cstore ship rather than a lockbox ship if it's going to be future content
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  • razellisrazellis Member Posts: 176 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    voporak wrote: »
    - Some Galaxy-Xs were called 'Armitage Class Escort Carrier' and I also saw bunches of fighters and shuttles flying around (:confused:).

    If only that would be the new(fleet) galaxy-X. A hanger instead of any other stat boost or changes. Add a functional seperation module and that's one fun ship.
  • tenkaritenkari Member Posts: 2,906 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    robeasom wrote: »
    I hope the wells class is going to be more a cstore ship rather than a lockbox ship if it's going to be future content

    considering the wells class is a federation ship, it will never be a lockbox ship. the devs stated faction specific ships (fex/vulcan/andorian. klingon/orion/gorn/nausican) ships will never be in lockboxes. the only exception is the mirror universe ships since the mirror universe is technically non-faction.

    only non-faction ships, like the tholian, Jem'Hadar , freighter and mirror universe ships would be in lockboxes.
  • voporakvoporak Member Posts: 5,621 Arc User
    edited September 2012
    razellis wrote: »
    If only that would be the new(fleet) galaxy-X. A hanger instead of any other stat boost or changes. Add a functional seperation module and that's one fun ship.

    I never thought about that... seems like the DDM could end up being one heck of an oopsie for Cryptic.
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