pls fix

thxfortakingmyid · August 2012

Make the maco/omega engines faster warp speed than the borg ones. It makes no sense that something costs 8x as much is worse speed.

rodentmaster · August 2012

I agree with this... Borg engines are nice for the speed, but you HAVE to get rid of them eventually to get the STF set bonuses... and it sucks to lose that speed.

My Hegh'ta BoP even with BORG engines in transwarp was only doing Warp 20.00. Give the KHG set a speed bonus in sector space! (and the maco, and the omega force, you get my point?)

cmdrskyfaller · August 2012

They just need to add a 4th piece to each stf set and make non-stf gear worth using.

I honestly think that people should have the functional option of using 'regular' shield/engine/deflectors over the STF sets.

Simply make those have one or two two stats/bonuses of really high amount. Just two.

And have the STF sets have many stats/bonuses at decent amounts.

So, for example, the STF Honor Guard shield is covariant type high shield hp, 20% plasma resist and has a proc effect.... thats fine. Make the 'regular' covariant shields have very,very high shield HP (twice that of the STF HG shield) ... the 'regular' resilient shield have a built in 10% all energy resist and ZERO bleedthrough... the regular regenerative array have a very,very high regen rate and the 'regular, regular' shield array have a balance of all other 'regular' shields: decent shield hp, 5% bleedthrough, and decent regeneration rate along with efficient at low power settings.

This alone allows for wide variety of ship templates without sacrificing the combo benefits of the stf sets. It allows mix and match... maybe a 2-set plus 2 'regular' items performs better for the player's needs than any given STF set 4-piece combo? It might. Imagination is the limit.

thxfortakingmyid · August 2012

It shouldnt have to be part of a set because they are so TRIBBLE they make it all have to be of the same mk lvl to get bonus. It should be inherent to engines, and you should get the set bonus regardless of what mk level the items are.

supergaminggeek · August 2012

That's because the Borg engines operate on Borg technology. Namely, transwarp capability.

Personally, I'd prefer to see a set upgrade to STF gear. I'm certain Omega Force gear is only standard Starfleet. I would think of combining Borg STF and Omega Force gear. Knowing Perfect World, I'd expect a Lobi purchase for this upgrade.

[Borg Technological Upgrades]
New studies by the Omega Force has revealed several changes to their equipment to increase efficiency by adding certain Borg modules, allowing an overall upgrade without any side effects.

These upgrades require a full set of any Omega Force gear of Mk XII.
Engines
[M.A.C.O. Transwarp Engines]
+12.4 Starship Driver Coil
+5 Engine Power Setting
+16.2 Flight Speed
+8.1 Flight Turn Rate
Thrusters: 25% speed when engines are disabled
While in Sector Space, your Asynchronous Transwarp Field allows a movement speed exceeding Warp 16. The maximum speed is modified by your Driver Coil skill.

Full Impulse
All Power to Engines
+110 Flight Speed
Diverts all power to engines

Omega Force Gravitic Distortion Engines
+15 Flight Speed
(Efficient at High Power Levels)
+5.9 Flight Turn Rate
125% recharge time reduction to Slipstream Drive

Full Impulse
All Power to Engines
+110 Flight Speed
Diverts all power to engines

Klingon Honor Guard Masked Engines
+15 Flight Speed
(Efficient at Low Power Levels)
+6.1 Flight Turn Rate
+4.6 Weapon Power Setting
+4.6 Shield Power Setting
+4.6 Auxiliary Power Setting
Tachyon Mask: While cloaked, a +732 Stealth bonus applies.
Hot restart: Automatically removes "Engine Disabled" conditions after 1 second.

Full Impulse
All Power to Engines
+110 Flight Speed
Diverts all power to engines

Deflector Arrays
M.A.C.O. Antiproton-Charged Graviton Deflector Array
+20.2 Starship Shield Emitters
+29.5 Starship Structural Integrity
+19.8 Starship Shield System
+10.4 Starship Electro-Plasma System
+19.5 Starship Inertial Dampers
+19.5 Starship Graviton Generators
+8.6 Starship Sensors
+9.4 Starship Countermeasure Systems

Omega Force Tachyon/Neutrino Deflector Array
+29.5 Starship Sensors
+17.5 Starship Targeting Systems
+21.5 Starship Inertial Dampers
+8.8 Starship Graviton Generators
+21.5 Starship Power Insulators
+17.5 Starship Particle Generator

Klingon Honor Guard Multiphasic Deflector Array
+21 Starship Structural Integrity
+10.2 Starship Electro-Plasma System
+23 Starship Flow Capacitors
+23 Starship Graviton Generators
+10.2 Starship Stealth
+21 Starship Particle Generator
+21 Subspace Decompiler
+6.8 Starship Sensors

Shield Arrays
M.A.C.O Adaptive Shield Array
9,525.6 Maximum Shield Capacity
(5% Absorption, 5% Bleedthrough)
231.8 Shield Regeneration every 6 seconds
Reduces All Energy Damage to Shields by 15%
When receiving All Energy Damage, applies Power Conduit Link
+2 All Power Settings for 15 sec
Reduces Plasma Damage to Shields by 25%

Omega Force Metaphasic Shield Array
7,366.6 Maximum Shield Capacity
(10% Bleedthrough)
288.6 Shield Regeneration every 6 seconds
When receiving All Energy Damage, 5% chance of applying Metaphasic Shielding
10% Absorption
Reduces All Energy Damage to Shields by 20%
When receiving All Energy Damage, 50% chance of applying Energy Wake
+5 Flight Speed for 5 sec
+30% Flight Turn Rate for 5 sec
Reduces Plasma Damage to Shields by 25%

Klingon Honor Guard Corbomite Shield Array
9,812 Maximum Shield Capacity
(10% Bleedthrough)
178 Shield Regeneration every 6 seconds
When receiving All Energy Damage, 25% Chance of applying Subvert Targeting Array to Damage owner
-25% Accuracy for 10 sec
Placate for 1 sec
When receiving All Damage, 10% Chance of reflecting 100% damage to Damage Owner
Reduces Plasma Damage to Shields by 25%

kagurazaka77 · August 2012

You do know that if all you're interested in is the warp speed, you can simply swap the engines out once you are in sector space.

Bada-bing, bada-boom. Problem solved?

thxfortakingmyid · August 2012

Thanks for the pro tip. Thanks for giving exhibit A on why its pointless to make them slower. Anytime you can remove pointless tedium from the game you should do it. Its not rocket science. Not to mention they give this awesome graphic effect on maco engines that...no...one...uses...because its eclipsed in effectiveness by something that cost 1/8th as much. Hur Dur.

syberghost · August 2012

If you make one item have every desirable quality, then nobody ever uses any other item, and you wasted your time making more than one item.

Choices are good.

aethon3050 · August 2012

You know, there's nothing stopping you from just keeping a Borg engine with you, and swapping to it when you need to cross vast distances in sector space. It's what I do, and it works just fine.

fiberteksyfir · August 2012

I didn't know there were folks that didn't use the 3/4 Borg + MACO Shield trick XD

In all honesty I do believe the Omega Force engines should at least have the boost to sector speeds, I know the MACOs do to a point, but I'm OK with them not being as quick, as the borg have always surpassed starfleet/KDF engineers in faster-than-warp travel.

dracounguis · September 2012

thxfortakingmyid, please Fix your thread title.
It should be descriptive of what you want.
Do something like "Make MACO/OMEGA engines faster in Sector Space than the Borg engine".

Just having a thread labeled "pls fix" is next to useless. Do you know how many gripe threads we have on this forum?? If everyone was as unspecific as you, no one would ever be able to find any specific thread! :rolleyes:

And by the way... MACO + Slipstream is faster than Borg + Slipstream. You happy now? :P

cusashorn · September 2012

Here's an idea: Switch out between Borg and Maco/Omega whenever you go from Sector Space to combat. it's that simple.

Just because they are combat-statistically better engines does not mean that MACO or Omega engines are statistically FASTER.

When you go to buy a new car for the family, what do you make your purchase decision on?

The car with the better fuel economy?

Or the car that can go 0-60 in 4 seconds?

szim · September 2012

syberghost wrote: »

If you make one item have every desirable quality, then nobody ever uses any other item, and you wasted your time making more than one item.

Choices are good.

Yes choices are good. But instead of giving each set a very good unique attribute it feels like all of the end game very rare sets are more or less equal. The differences are really small. And given that you spend DAYS grinding for the MACO or OMEGA set they should be better than anything else.

It would be nice to have the possibility to increase a certain feature of an item analog to enchantments in other MMOs. Either through crafting (best idea), dilithium or - if it must be - through Lobi crystals. I imagine something like:
+2 turn rate
+10 shield generators
+500 to shields
...

I know the idea isn't new but I think this would be a great idea for STO.

pls fix

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