Yeah I noticed this as well. Was sitting both fvf queues for the daily until I finally gave up when they were stuck at that value. Cryptic really needs to remove the fvk options for sub-20 players.
The screen shot look normal to me, wait time... normal... PVP is so broke that not many really want to play in the PUG que anyway. You can find private matches being orgainized on OPPVP chat and in Kerrat sometimes....
Oh, and... yeah! LOL, there are no Klinks that low in the chain.
What I find really sad, is that they didn't just make it so Fed v KDF doesn't start till level 20.. And Fed vs Fed starts at 6 like normal. But that's Cryptic for you. And I know they are aware of the issue by now.. but still.. C'mon people!
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thats the sad part, cuz there is times when there is 30+ players in the fvk and 0 in the fvf que
and also when they become commander and a klingon shoots them down in karrat they call us hackers cuz they want to farm the karrat zone and not fight because they didnt have to fight to do that mission when they were lt and lc (well except for the pve borg, but thats it)
What I find really sad, is that they didn't just make it so Fed v KDF doesn't start till level 20.. And Fed vs Fed starts at 6 like normal. But that's Cryptic for you. And I know they are aware of the issue by now.. but still.. C'mon people!
yea they are aware of it, but say (its a pvp problem we don't care, we need to get more pve stuff done, so those pvpers can live with it)
I think we've been promised twice now that the FvK queues were being removed from the low levels. Both times, this has not happened. Don't hold your breath when the inevitable third promise comes and goes unfulfilled.
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What I find most worrying is not that there are Feds queued for FvK at a level where we all know there are no Klingons in existence - as has been mentioned above, Cryptic are aware of it and have even promised to look at it before but since its PvP (and Klingon), don't expect a quick response.
The worrying bit from my point of view is that it says the average wait time is 20 minutes for both FvK arena and FvK cap n hold, when neither can possibly start! Should not the wait time show as infinity??? Just goes to show that the wait times displayed are pretty much random numbers, designed to persuade you to stay queued, rather than any meaningful estimate...
Come on Cryptic, such things don't exactly show you guys in a good light.
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The state of PVP isn't good, and it's atrocious below LtGen/VAdm.
I still remember the early days of STO PVP when all tiers, including Lieutenant, were popping in PVP. There were alot more KDF players back then, qued up for PVP with an ungodly amount of Feds waiting in line. Through all tiers, and I still have fond memories of PVP at the Captain ranks in those days.
Rolling an alt now and trying to rely on heavy PVP for your progression will stall you completely below the Gen/Adm ranks. It just rarely happens anymore.
I made a post last week and Borticus replied saying this should've been fixed and he'll take a look. Maybe after he gets back from vacation.
And it took me 1+ hours to fire up a match as FED commander, with real klings in the queues. Its a shame there are not many players leveling through PvP, but to be honest you kinda get squat for doing it, other than some EC.
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Personally, I think they should complete the Klingon Faction, allow players to start at 1 again... and it would solve this issue
And also allow veteran players (both factions) that already leveled all way up to start at an upper level of their choice, so that you won't have to pve to death every time you level a new tune.
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Yeah... they really should remove the FvK queues below commander level, what with KDF not existing below that and all, just a thought.
Are you mad?? The less contact between Devs and code the better! For all their good intentions if they tried to do something like what you suggest we may end up with the queues not working at all and not getting fixed for a few months... if ever!
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Oh, and... yeah! LOL, there are no Klinks that low in the chain.
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thats the sad part, cuz there is times when there is 30+ players in the fvk and 0 in the fvf que
and also when they become commander and a klingon shoots them down in karrat they call us hackers cuz they want to farm the karrat zone and not fight because they didnt have to fight to do that mission when they were lt and lc (well except for the pve borg, but thats it)
yea they are aware of it, but say (its a pvp problem we don't care, we need to get more pve stuff done, so those pvpers can live with it)
I think we've been promised twice now that the FvK queues were being removed from the low levels. Both times, this has not happened. Don't hold your breath when the inevitable third promise comes and goes unfulfilled.
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The worrying bit from my point of view is that it says the average wait time is 20 minutes for both FvK arena and FvK cap n hold, when neither can possibly start! Should not the wait time show as infinity??? Just goes to show that the wait times displayed are pretty much random numbers, designed to persuade you to stay queued, rather than any meaningful estimate...
Come on Cryptic, such things don't exactly show you guys in a good light.
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People like Rp, PVE, and the endless NPC **** or forever fail at normal STF's.
(if you queue against klingons then you play against the first 5 who queue regardless of rank)
I still remember the early days of STO PVP when all tiers, including Lieutenant, were popping in PVP. There were alot more KDF players back then, qued up for PVP with an ungodly amount of Feds waiting in line. Through all tiers, and I still have fond memories of PVP at the Captain ranks in those days.
Rolling an alt now and trying to rely on heavy PVP for your progression will stall you completely below the Gen/Adm ranks. It just rarely happens anymore.
And it took me 1+ hours to fire up a match as FED commander, with real klings in the queues. Its a shame there are not many players leveling through PvP, but to be honest you kinda get squat for doing it, other than some EC.
Hear! Daughters too.
The blood of battle washes clean.
The Warrior brave and true.
We fight, we love, and then we kill...
Personally, I think they should complete the Klingon Faction, allow players to start at 1 again... and it would solve this issue
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And also allow veteran players (both factions) that already leveled all way up to start at an upper level of their choice, so that you won't have to pve to death every time you level a new tune.
Hear! Daughters too.
The blood of battle washes clean.
The Warrior brave and true.
We fight, we love, and then we kill...
Are you mad?? The less contact between Devs and code the better! For all their good intentions if they tried to do something like what you suggest we may end up with the queues not working at all and not getting fixed for a few months... if ever!