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Next Gen and beyond. What no punk, funk or rock music?

rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
edited August 2012 in Ten Forward
OK where is the Rock, metal, rap, new wave, funk, punk music in the Next Gen onwards era. All they seem to like is jazz, opera and classical.

Why havent we seen Data singing Prodigy's Smack my Tribble Up. Or Riker doing a trombone solo to anything by Anthrax?! In the 25th century musical tastes cant have become become so....conservative & dull!

And now heres Chancellor Martok to sing Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody!

Is musical choice so boring in the 25th Century? Discuss!
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  • woerligenwoerligen Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    There was rock music in ST: First Contact. Otherwise, I remember classical and jazz only.

    Thinking of the novels, the fictional drad music was popular, e.g. Captain Dax is a fan of it. Kim still plays clarinet, Riker remains jazz afficionado, Picard is *the* fan of everything styled classic/revered old and Worf has his Klingon opera. Not much else beside it. Besides drad, I've also never heard of contemporary 24th century music.

    But we have a piece of 25th century sound: The lounge music of Club 47 in ESD.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Its quite simple

    First came the Eugenics wars
    Then the Third world war
    plus a few other little wars

    all the punk was cleaned out
    as were all the other musical styles not worth archiving (house , grunge , garage ,club mixes and everything by prince)
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  • rustiswordzrustiswordz Member Posts: 824 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    That be funny. Have a pirate radio station playing old late 20 & -21 century songs! Or a reviccover band performinh heavy metal hits. I bet that go down well with the Klingons!
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  • nrobbiecnrobbiec Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I've always found Trek's lack of musical taste unrealistic. I just assumed the characters we've seen are the ones with no taste and don't represent the entire population.

    At least Worf hates jazz.
  • gibbon1182gibbon1182 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Well since I only ever listen to classical music my opinion is that since the Federation is an enlightened culture they would use the more poetic and humanitarian styles of music. I doubt that 25th century Earth is concerned about TRIBBLE, grills, bling, and pimping as a way of self expression. Also music forms like classical and Jazz are far more complex which makes sense for a society that teaches calculus to 10 year old children.

    I do not wish to offend anybody who enjoys rap and rock; I'm just stating the most logical reason, well according to my logic anyway.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    edited August 2012
    Magic carpet ride: Steppenwolf
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  • nrobbiecnrobbiec Member Posts: 959 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    gibbon1182 wrote: »
    Well since I only ever listen to classical music my opinion is that since the Federation is an enlightened culture they would use the more poetic and humanitarian styles of music. I doubt that 25th century Earth is concerned about TRIBBLE, grills, bling, and pimping as a way of self expression. Also music forms like classical and Jazz are far more complex which makes sense for a society that teaches calculus to 10 year old children.

    I do not wish to offend anybody who enjoys rap and rock; I'm just stating the most logical reason, well according to my logic anyway.

    The kind of music plaguing the radio should die.

    I like symphonic metal, which is complex and poetic and is far from the TRIBBLE and bling bullscheisse, classical feels empty without the rock elements and jazz is just...I find it unbearable.
  • allyoftheforceallyoftheforce Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    This is why I intend to live forever, so I can warp the minds of future children on the only real music, Metal.
  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Infinite copyright got it.

    Seriously.

    They have classical music because they didn't have to pay for it for the show.

    I imagine, if you want an in-character explanation (and not pretend it still exists in the background), it's entirely possible that much of it was lost in the various wars (e.g. the Eugenics War, WWIII, etc.), in no small part because it was encumbered by many of these same copyright laws, which rendered it difficult to archive or distribute it.
  • maxvitormaxvitor Member Posts: 2,213 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    The reason has nothing to do with their tastes in the time, it has everything to do with copyrights. Every time an episode aired with copyrighted music, money would be due to the license holders, better to avoid all of the hassle by not including that music to begin with.
    Although I will admit that the idea of a future with no Rap pleases me to no end.
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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    maxvitor wrote: »
    The reason has nothing to do with their tastes in the time, it has everything to do with copyrights. Every time an episode aired with copyrighted music, money would be due to the license holders, better to avoid all of the hassle by not including that music to begin with.
    Although I will admit that the idea of a future with no Rap pleases me to no end.

    The lack of Beiber, Katy Perry, and Beyonce is very appealing as well.

    We know that Steppenwolf stuff is still around, as it's likely that Zefram Cochrane shared his music list with the universe. :P
  • lonnehartlonnehart Member Posts: 846 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I can see it now... a Ferengi taking a business opportunity by calling himself and singing just like Justin Beiber...

    and now I need a bone drill and some bleach for my brain...
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  • red01999red01999 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    maxvitor wrote: »
    The reason has nothing to do with their tastes in the time, it has everything to do with copyrights. Every time an episode aired with copyrighted music, money would be due to the license holders, better to avoid all of the hassle by not including that music to begin with.
    Although I will admit that the idea of a future with no Rap pleases me to no end.

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  • logandarklighterlogandarklighter Member Posts: 96 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    lonnehart wrote: »
    I can see it now... a Ferengi taking a business opportunity by calling himself and singing just like Justin Beiber...

    and now I need a bone drill and some bleach for my brain...

    Here, you can have this spoon when I'm done with it.

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  • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Who's to say what parts of 20th century music will be popular four hundred years from now? What parts of popular music from Shakespeare's era (400 years AGO) are still popular now, vs. how much has been forgotten from then?
  • kyeto13kyeto13 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    maxvitor wrote: »
    The reason has nothing to do with their tastes in the time, it has everything to do with copyrights. Every time an episode aired with copyrighted music, money would be due to the license holders, better to avoid all of the hassle by not including that music to begin with.
    Although I will admit that the idea of a future with no Rap pleases me to no end.
    lilchibiclari wrote: »
    Who's to say what parts of 20th century music will be popular four hundred years from now? What parts of popular music from Shakespeare's era (400 years AGO) are still popular now, vs. how much has been forgotten from then?

    This. You can see the effect in a much shorter term too. Name Ten movies that came out last summer. Now name ten that came out in 1979 (The same year that ST:TMP premiered)... you remember only a few (Alien was another big one). This is because if a movie/song/book is particularly bad, it will get trampled by time. However, if it is good, telling, and sophisticated piece of work, it will live on for eons.

    Also, the likes of Beethoven and Bach are nearly 300 years old, and are still considered to be the best composers of all time. It would be no stretch of the imagination to see them be popular for another 400 years, even being a sort of representative piece of Earth Culture....along with Steppenwolf :cool:

    And... yeah. the backstage legality of it all does effect what can and cannot be on the show -___- Sad, but true.
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