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schermerof9
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So - I was going to do a survey or two - and then take advantage of your "sudden" Zen sale - Trying to maximize my game dollar...you know.
I take a Pre- survey - It says - Hey - you're qualified for the survey - let's transfer you!
The survey - then, asks me about 25 personal questions - then says "AWW Too bad - you don't qualify!"
now - I'm ok with this once...But I tried SIX other times - and it was the same - OR WORSE. It took me to a place of "Give us your credit card number and you can finish the survey..."
Really? REALLY?
So - I call "shinanigans" I'm getting my broom. If I don't get the zen - can I have my personal information back?
Now, I assume the zen payment is for my time and information. I do not expect to answer 50 questions and be "suddenly and magically" disqualified. I spent my time and gave my answers. Sorry if your sponsor doesn't think it was the "right" answer...It's a SURVEY - there should BE NO RIGHT ANSWER! I answer the questions - you give me the zen- THAT is the deal.
There will be no "Zen Purchase" NOW -I will save the money - since your "offers" are a marketing scam and do NOT PAY OUT ZEN AS PROMISED. So, I will no longer buy zen. Frankly, after that, I'm hard-pressed to continue playing.
I COMPLETED... COMPLETED one survey and it said "THANK YOU" I got "ZERO ZEN." It said AFTER I COMPLETED the survey that I did not qualify. how's that? Barnum and Baily Circus, that's how. Shinanigans! Yeah - I'm so dumb that I won't be spending my "dumb" money here anymore. Whadaaya' got for free? That's what I'll take.
Thanks for the complete waste of time - you're welcome for all the support. I hear Star Wars is going free-to-play.
I take a Pre- survey - It says - Hey - you're qualified for the survey - let's transfer you!
The survey - then, asks me about 25 personal questions - then says "AWW Too bad - you don't qualify!"
now - I'm ok with this once...But I tried SIX other times - and it was the same - OR WORSE. It took me to a place of "Give us your credit card number and you can finish the survey..."
Really? REALLY?
So - I call "shinanigans" I'm getting my broom. If I don't get the zen - can I have my personal information back?
Now, I assume the zen payment is for my time and information. I do not expect to answer 50 questions and be "suddenly and magically" disqualified. I spent my time and gave my answers. Sorry if your sponsor doesn't think it was the "right" answer...It's a SURVEY - there should BE NO RIGHT ANSWER! I answer the questions - you give me the zen- THAT is the deal.
There will be no "Zen Purchase" NOW -I will save the money - since your "offers" are a marketing scam and do NOT PAY OUT ZEN AS PROMISED. So, I will no longer buy zen. Frankly, after that, I'm hard-pressed to continue playing.
I COMPLETED... COMPLETED one survey and it said "THANK YOU" I got "ZERO ZEN." It said AFTER I COMPLETED the survey that I did not qualify. how's that? Barnum and Baily Circus, that's how. Shinanigans! Yeah - I'm so dumb that I won't be spending my "dumb" money here anymore. Whadaaya' got for free? That's what I'll take.
Thanks for the complete waste of time - you're welcome for all the support. I hear Star Wars is going free-to-play.
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*whispers*
the key is that you "are" a Single African descended Female, with at least 2 children...
*hides back in the shadows*
As for myself, I have done 10 Surveys and have been paid on 6 of them. I've also never been asked anything more personal then my age, gender, state I live in, and Email - but I've never done any of the 1,000+ Zen Surveys. I generally stick to the ones 150 Zen or under.
lol that is hilarious.
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but is it true?
i answered the questions and spent the time - Any other "fine print" that disqualifies me AFTER I have participated, I'm certain would not hold firm under legal scrutiny.
but - legal-ese aside - It's douchey. It's like me buying Zen with a fake credit card. I get mine but they don't get theirs. Well - they got theirs, this time (Time and information) - but I don't get mine (Zen agreed to for participating in the survey).
I guess PW don't get mine anymore. I'm not one to get involved or upset about such sillyness - the PRINCIPLE of the scam makes me angry - and the discriminatory practice of "who qualifies" Shinanigans. scam, fraud, and outright bunko.
If I can't earn 'em (after I've earned them), I ain't buyin' em.
It is important to pay attention to the Surveys, though. The Survey companies aren't stupid. If they're going to pay PW they're going to make sure they get actual data. Many of the Surveys are timed - the Surveyors know exactly how long it takes to do them, so if someone does them too quickly they assume it's just being spammed rather then answered, and PW doesn't get paid. Other Surveys have hidden questions in them. Things like: "If you're reading this question check box 3." Again, that's done to make sure someone isn't just checking random boxes to get done quickly. The Survey companies aren't going to pay PW for spamming their data, and thus PW won't pay you.
I answered honestly on the first four. By then I realized it was a "fixed" game and Said I was a multi-millionaire that worked in aero-space.
I play often and buy stuff from the c-store. The "earn zen" should not scam me. My email address phone number and income information are of value - If I furnish them for payment - I should get paid - or that survey should end in TWO QUESTIONS - not a dozen or more and NEVER after they have my name address and phone number. it is at THAT point that you are not offering a deal but phishing.
And, it makes me feel as if this company is run by greedy jerks who would rather swindle me out of $5 than earn my $20.
Well, today it bit the parent company in the tushie. I'll be ordering a pizza, instead of a starship.
ETHICS, people. They go further than you'd think.
Yeah - That's discrimination. Worse - It's pre-discrimination.
So what if it is? For me it's getting free zen for gaming their system.
No, it's market research.
If you're hired by somebody who is trying to increase their sales among people of Martian-American descent who are not tri-bonded and have parthenogenetic offspring, why would you survey Venusians in a matecluster with no offspring?
Answer; you wouldn't. So you set up a pre-survey to screen anonymous applicants out into the specific group you need. I've had these kinds of pre-screen surveys from every major player in the business, including Harris and Nielsen.
The Zen ad does say that you "may qualify". I've had it dump me after one question because I use the wrong brand of mobile phone. If you want Zen that bad, buy some; it's cheap.
Edit: both Peanut Labs, both confirmed in my wallet.
Actually, you can for surveys or acting/modeling work. I can be surveying white middle aged housewives with two children only. I can also be, say, casting Martin Luther King Jr. in a movie and while I don't actually care what your race or gender is, you better look and sound the part. And that's going to favor a certain race and gender. And a religious employer can discriminate based on any of those.
Now, public, non-religious jobs or offers can't disqualify people on the grounds of age, race, sex, or religion WITHOUT REASON. But a survey is one form of reason.
That said, the same outfit that handles these surveys does facebook's. They don't screen the offers well enough. Many don't pay out. "Free" offers often require a purchase to complete.
I'd advise ONLY to do offers that cost money or are with established outfits, like the Netflix deal.
remember the motto "If it sounds to good to be true than it probably is" :eek:
Don't be absurd.
You do not understand me correctly, at all. I was going to earn - AND buy some zen - Then make a big purchase.
now - I shall do none of the above....like EVER again. THAT is what I am saying.
Because - I'm fine with answering 2 questions and giving no private information - and then being told I disqualify.
I'm NOT ok with answering 20 questions on a page that needs my name, age, address, phone number, and e-mail address - which thanks me for my time and does not pay out the promised zen.
Believe me! I am not the type to have such an issue if I did not feel solidly wronged. One or two survey's doing this, I could and would understand - Six in a row playing out like that feels rigged.
End of story. I think that's as clear and sensible as I can make it.
No - I do not think "provide your contact info and answer these 20 questions for 200 Zen" (about a $2.00 value) is "too good to be true." It sounds reasonable - Provided that said zen is paid at 20 questions - and the "host" does not ask you 19 questions and "disqualify" you on THAT question. THAT is a "TRIBBLE-job." A Reneg on the deal, if you will.
Again - Happening on one or two...MMMm'k.
Six in a row is a scam to phish me - I do not appreciate it and I will not reward it with my monetary business (As I have been- because up until now, it seemed to run fairly).
There's a lot of legit stuff out there that's free, including airline tickets. And it's not all a marketing gimmick; the smart stuff is the reversal of a business model.
For example, imagine a video game developer that went to CBS and said, "We want to make a Star Trek game." And CBS said, "How much do you want to pay us for it?" And the developer said, "Actually, we think YOU should pay US." And then had a presentation showing why that was a good idea.
Reversing business models for free stuff is the smart kind of free, whether it's getting a third party to pony up for ads so that you can give something away to consumers or charging your supplier and giving money to your customers. In a sense, that's what PWE's role in these programs is.
But Peanut Labs is not the best partner for that in its present state. They've improved, believe it or not, in the last two years. But I think it's a matter of time before a quality outfit outperforms them at what they do. And I think a quality outfit wouldn't get itself tied in with all these bookclubs and clearing houses and 3rd party scam sites and free trial offers.
A real quality outfit would be able to offer PWE Zen sponsored offers that don't have hidden purchases or involve junk mail. Granted, that might require more targeting on PWE's part too.
I've done VERY basic research into STO's demo before. It's very affluent by MMO standards.
Take a look at trade magazines. Those are offered free. They generally aren't dinky at all. No gaudy pop-up ads. And they're offered free because they hit a valuable demo of some kind. You know, restaurant owners, wine bottlers, fashion designers, people that are taste makers. At a certain point, you can transcend the need for currency based on status, whether high status or peculiar status.
There are also ways you can monetize a userbase. I learned recently how a lot of illicit and pirate sites work and a lot of it comes down to hidden labor, turning the users into a farm for deciphering captchas and keygens.
I think we'll eventually see an MMO in that vein. Not just FREE to play but potentially where at least some of the players get paid to play. There are rumblings that direction with major league gaming and such.
But I expect at least a couple of big efforts at "less than free to play" in the coming years.
If they take your info, then give you nothing in exchange, they're the ones getting something for free.
I've done a lot of these ads/surveys-for-game-currency systems, and this one is definitely on the "skeezy" end of the spectrum, unfortunately.
Yup.
I think it's a missed opportunity, like I say, because I've dug a bit on the demo for STO and it's the kind marketers and advertisers crave.
It's just not what Peanut Labs specializes in. The best deal on there is the Netflix trial.
There are good advertisers and market research firms that would pay ten, a hundred, or even a thousand times what PWE is getting from Peanut Labs for feedback and ads directed at STO users. And they'd make good on every offer and wouldn't subject users to endless spam.
Still got my free Zen, though; bought Dilithium with it.
And yes, anti-spam blocked them all.
i guess they do not want self employed 24 year old white guys info lol
Always nice to hear "your opinion doesn't matter to us".
Thanks a lot peanut gallery!
I'm done with this scam.
same thing happend to me, what you need to do is is send in a ticket explaning what happend then go ahead to select what servey to do then before you start the survey copy the address link in the address bar and send that in as part of the ticket also for proof.