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apophis77
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So, I've picked up PVP again recently, and I have to know, how do people do so much damage so fast sometimes?
For example, this one guy in a Jem'Hadar ship kept us spawn-locked for the entire match while his team sat at points. He dealt such tremendous damage, we couldn't even move. Now, I don't have the best Gear, but I'm usually able to at least stand-up in PVP, but this was a slaughter.
I'm wondering, does he just have really good gear, or what?
I'm lvl 50, running mostly MK XI gear from STFs, same with most of the rest of our group. We just could not touch him. At the end, he had dealt us over 1 million damage in the 10ish minutes the game lasted
Whatever it was, if it was a glitch/hack, his anme was Talon Jonas Owns You, and his ship was i.k.s. you dead bro.
So please, is this just amazing skill, or what?
For example, this one guy in a Jem'Hadar ship kept us spawn-locked for the entire match while his team sat at points. He dealt such tremendous damage, we couldn't even move. Now, I don't have the best Gear, but I'm usually able to at least stand-up in PVP, but this was a slaughter.
I'm wondering, does he just have really good gear, or what?
I'm lvl 50, running mostly MK XI gear from STFs, same with most of the rest of our group. We just could not touch him. At the end, he had dealt us over 1 million damage in the 10ish minutes the game lasted
Whatever it was, if it was a glitch/hack, his anme was Talon Jonas Owns You, and his ship was i.k.s. you dead bro.
So please, is this just amazing skill, or what?
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Others I know in the STF and Accolade channels had similar thoughts, they had more fun in private queues than in public. Especially in set up limits like no consoles, no Phased Tetryons, No Spiral Disruptors. That way PvP is longer and more fun like in the "old" days, than the newer "boom - dead in 3 seconds".
I hope that whomever took over Gozer's task in PvP will keep such things in mind.
It'll probably take some time to get back into PvP. I had the same problem earlier this year when I decided to give it another try. Now, I can at least hold my own.
I don't know what setup that particular player is using, but I wonder if he would be susceptible to power drains. Energy Siphon III + multiple Mk XII Flow Regulators can drain a wicked amount of power, though this can be countered somewhat. Polarize Hull and Attack pattern Omega get you out of tractor beams, but I believe multiple tractors can confound polarize hull. You can also try to slow players down with carriers packing runabouts, with Eject Warp Plasma/Vent Theta Radiation/Metreon Gas, chroniton torpedoes (I'm not sure how effective that is though), Viral Matrix III for general mayhem, and Gravity Well. Basically, bring a science vessel/carrier or two. Thermionic torpedoes + the Torpedo: High Yield BOFF ability might also be worth a try if one of you has them off a tholian ship.
As for speed...well, with the highest base turn rate of any ship available to Starfleet, he is going to be able to maneuver well at higher speeds than you. Other ways of "going faster" include purple conn officer DOFFs which reduce the recharge time of evasive maneuvers (I do this), batteries/deuterium burn (I don't use consumables but I wonder how many players do), attack pattern omega (I use it on all my escorts), and some engineering BOFF abilities that I doubt he would be using. Get to know all of the bridge officer abilities, talk to other pvp'ers about their setups, read and post on the forums, and eventually you'll improve like I did and continue to do. Also, if you are not good at something--say, killing cruisers in 10 seconds flat--find something else that you might be good at and run that for a while to build up confidence. I tried tanking for a while until I became confident enough to try science setups and then return to high-damage setups.
In the end, though, unless you are a powergamer, it IS frustrating to face these kinds of players in random pick-up-games, especially when they flaunt their skill to your face in such an adolescent manner. I had an encounter in Ker'rat today where I was the only KDF player and the spawn was controlled by a half dozen or more Starfleet characters. I was content to just fly around waiting for more klinks and getting blown up every couple minutes while other players said things like "poof!" and "fried klingon" and I actually really wasn't offended because what else were all those guys going to do? However, after I got annoyed about some players' use of autofire, another guy whom I believe is something of a well-known troll started trash talking me, calling me just a whiner because I was losing. He deliberately seemed to forget that I was holding up pretty well in a bird of prey against six or more enemy players without cloaking and running. Well, I waited for more klinks to show up, and then when he was fighting a member of the famous Sad Pandas fleet I decloaked and went to town on him, watched his ship (named the U.S.S. Hitler, incidentaly) explode, laughed, and left the system. Sometimes that is all you can do...
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Yeah, this seems to be the most plausible scenario, given what the OP decribed. Frankly, that's about what I'd be running in a JHAS if I had one on my KDF tactical toon.
Former/Cryptic Name: Captain_Hans_Langsdorff
Founding member, Special Service Squadron
"Fear God and Dread Nought." First Sea Lord, Adm. Jacky Fisher
And don't name names. Against the rules.
As to your own build, definitely go to the PvP forums and ask questions.
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