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Help me make the jump to KDF-side...

sevoksevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
edited August 2012 in Klingon Discussion
So I have a L50 Federation character, an Engineering Captain. I've flown Science Wessels from Day 1, though at each Tier I always tried out a Cruiser and an Escort for a few days... always went back to SV's. I just "get" the playstyle of using CC abilities and other tricks to make fights a LOT easier.

But... I've really always wanted to play KDF side. So, I'm looking for a recommendation on a ship type/model for KDF-side that might play similarly to a Fed SV. My Klingon toon is just a couple levels past whereever they start at nowadays; it's been a while since I've logged on that side.
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  • tetonicatetonica Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Just take a bird of prey and customize the boff layout for sci abilities. There are no dedicated sci ships this side so that's what you need to do to make that work. Or shell out for the gorn z-store ships. :o

    That said, the most fun I've had in this game was playing with a kdf engineer in battlecruisers. I'm not really sure why, but it was a blast. :D
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  • sevoksevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    tetonica wrote: »
    Just take a bird of prey and customize the boff layout for sci abilities. There are no dedicated sci ships this side so that's what you need to do to make that work. Or shell out for the gorn z-store ships. :o

    That said, the most fun I've had in this game was playing with a kdf engineer in battlecruisers. I'm not really sure why, but it was a blast. :D


    Hmm, time to look at the Spidermitch chart then, I guess.
  • robeasomrobeasom Member Posts: 1,911 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    A B'rel BOP is a good ship to have but you have to but it from cryptic store
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  • sevoksevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    robeasom wrote: »
    A B'rel BOP is a good ship to have but you have to but it from cryptic store

    B'rel is the freebie n00bship, I thought?
  • cptvanorcptvanor Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    sevok wrote: »
    B'rel is the freebie n00bship, I thought?

    There's 2 of them... the freebie T1 B'rel and then the Z-Store T5 B'rel retrofit. The T5 one has an enhanced battle cloak that lets you fire things like Torps and stay cloaked. You decloak for 3 seconds and then cloak again without having to do anything.
  • bluegeekbluegeek Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    What about one of the Gorn ships? I thought those were more optimized for the Science role?

    I know they're not free, though. It would be nice if there were at least one free Gorn ship in the lineup. Ditto for Orion -- though I'm less enthusiastic about some of those ship designs.
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  • sevoksevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    So, what are the favored weapons to strap to BOPs? I see a lot of people talking about strictly torpedo ships, but, regardless of effectiveness, that doesn't seem like something I'd enjoy. Klingons ought to have disruptors of some sort AND torpedoes. Just a small "RP thing" I have, I guess. :D

    So... cannons of some sort?
  • tetonicatetonica Member Posts: 142 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Most standard bop fits I've seen have had dhc's and turrets, but if you're running a high aux power setting with not a lot devoted to weapons I think you might get more benefit out of torps and just using a couple of dhc's/turrets, maybe coupled with power drain abilities, to drain shields to use the torps to good effect. There's a b'rel retro thread kicking around here somewhere that goes into that if you're interested
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  • sevoksevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    tetonica wrote: »
    There's a b'rel retro thread kicking around here somewhere that goes into that if you're interested


    That thread is nearly all "torpedoes only blah blah blah." :D

    Nah.
  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    bluegeek wrote: »
    What about one of the Gorn ships? I thought those were more optimized for the Science role?

    I know they're not free, though. It would be nice if there were at least one free Gorn ship in the lineup. Ditto for Orion -- though I'm less enthusiastic about some of those ship designs.

    The Gorn ships are ok, from what I understand, just C-store locked. . .so you're shelling out C-points for a Tier 2-4 ship that you will stop using relatively quickly.

    For Tier 5, there's things like the Varanus Fleet Support Vessel with it's Commander and LTC sci slots and overall support abilities, but I have no idea how useful it really is in battle. . .I don't see people using them very often, which is interesting. It turns like a Vor'cha (11 turning rate), but is a little low in hull.

    STO wiki isn't as reliable as I'd like. . .
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  • sevoksevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    travelingmaster wrote: »
    For Tier 5, there's things like the Varanus Fleet Support Vessel

    That looks darn close to the DSSV I fly fed-side. Hmm.

    I'd prefer a Klingon ship, though, but.... Hmmm.

    It'll be ages, anyway, before I'm T5. :D
  • sevoksevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Hmm - seems I purchased the Ning'tao a while back.

    Does anyone have some spare gear I could use to outfit it? :D
  • ariseaboveariseabove Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    tetonica wrote: »
    There are no dedicated sci ships this side so that's what you need to do to make that work.

    Um yes there are they just cost zen except for the free carrier at lvl 40.

    My fav lower tier one is the "Phalanxs Science Vessel" its not very expensive either plus it has a console you can use on other ships the "Barrier Field Generator" which is basically an TRIBBLE saving console and you can continue to use it on any ship, I have one sitting on my Kar Fi now.
  • praghaspraghas Member Posts: 239 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    As already mentioned Bird of Prey's with their universal BO slots can be decked out with science officers, which is alot more fun then it seems. Alot of science abilities have a 90 degree view, so you can't hit the enemy with them if you aren't facing them, and with a Bird of Prey you have such a tight turning radius, the enemy is always in sight.

    First time I tried a Bird of Prey, I hated it, gave it another shot as a science captain and it was a blast.

    Also the Kar'Fi Carrier is a science ship... As is the Klingon carrier (Vo'Quv I think...)
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  • sevoksevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    praghas wrote: »
    As already mentioned Bird of Prey's with their universal BO slots can be decked out with science officers, which is alot more fun then it seems. Alot of science abilities have a 90 degree view, so you can't hit the enemy with them if you aren't facing them, and with a Bird of Prey you have such a tight turning radius, the enemy is always in sight.

    First time I tried a Bird of Prey, I hated it, gave it another shot as a science captain and it was a blast.

    Also the Kar'Fi Carrier is a science ship... As is the Klingon carrier (Vo'Quv I think...)

    Yeah, I'm thinking a Science BOP will be fun.

    Just have to find a way to outfit mine; I've got NOTHING KDF-side.
  • tdon7tdon7 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    sevok wrote: »
    Yeah, I'm thinking a Science BOP will be fun.

    Just have to find a way to outfit mine; I've got NOTHING KDF-side.

    Good thing is that if your fed character is a crafter, you can slap together a loadout for your KDF character. Just put it in the account bank.
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  • sevoksevok Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    tdon7 wrote: »
    Good thing is that if your fed character is a crafter, you can slap together a loadout for your KDF character. Just put it in the account bank.

    He's not.... Never got into crafting in STO. It was lame in the beginning and honestly I haven't followed it.

    Buuuuut, my Fed toon has money so I can just... put stuff in the bank.

    I didn't know there was an account bank added.... Thanks!
  • dbxxxdbxxx Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    If you want a reason to play KDF here it is:

    Teamwork!

    I just started kdf a few days ago and theres much more teamwork going on, it feels like your actually fighting as a team/faction rather than a lone wolf.

    Another reason...

    The Bird of Prey simply rocks. Esp if you put ya hand in ya pocket and get the Ning'tao class with Quad cannons.
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  • farmallmfarmallm Member Posts: 4,630 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I went with the role of trying to be an actual Klingon. Packing a disruptor for range, and Bath'leth for hand to hand combat. I love fighting on the ground with this combo. Since I use them both. Granted I shoot more than melee. If the enemy runs up to me, or beams next to me. I go hacking into them. Space wise I been having a blast with my Battle Cruisers. I have dual beams plus DHCs so I eat up ships when I got my front to them. For my bridge crew, I decided to go the unique route. Where each one has their own style of outfits. Where with my Fed I kept them all the same to keep them uniform in looks. Then you have the species, they are not many but good ones. Gorn, Nausicaan, Orion to name some. The Orion ladies can get really skimpy if you go there. Nausicaan just looks nasty and similar to the Predator.

    Its worth playing that is for sure. But only drawback is they are limited in several areas compared to Feds.
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  • ariseaboveariseabove Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    dbxxx wrote: »
    Esp if you put ya hand in ya pocket and get the Ning'tao class with Quad cannons.

    Those quad cannons are awesome, once you get to lvl 50 and put em on a tier 5 ship they go off there heads, I ve got em on my Guramba and it just kicks TRIBBLE both in pve and pvp.

    farmallm wrote: »
    Packing a disruptor for range, and Bath'leth for hand to hand combat.

    I always have to have a Bath'leth in my inventory or it just doesn't feel right.
    farmallm wrote: »
    Its worth playing that is for sure. But only drawback is they are limited in several areas compared to Feds.

    What area's are you talking about?, a Klingon can go any where a Fed can except into Fed actual systems same as a Fed can't go into Qo'No's but they can go anywhere in sector space.

    You can't strait away but once you build up your doff ranks you shouldn't have a problem.
  • p2wsucksp2wsucks Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    praghas wrote: »
    As already mentioned Bird of Prey's with their universal BO slots can be decked out with science officers, which is alot more fun then it seems. Alot of science abilities have a 90 degree view, so you can't hit the enemy with them if you aren't facing them, and with a Bird of Prey you have such a tight turning radius, the enemy is always in sight.

    First time I tried a Bird of Prey, I hated it, gave it another shot as a science captain and it was a blast.

    Also the Kar'Fi Carrier is a science ship... As is the Klingon carrier (Vo'Quv I think...)

    Fyi, the Kar'Fi isn't a Sci ship despite its boff layout. It has 7 weapon slots not 6 and doesn't have sensor analysis nor free TSSx built in. Though, the OP may be interested in trying it out for PvE (while one of my toons has one not a fan of spam in PvP). It can fit cannons and the Ad Frigs are nice for adding dps via Trics. There's also the siphon drone shutdown option, but those require another zstore purchace.

    Sci BoP, B'rel can be fun to fly. They can fit a variety of weapon types as well as mix match boffs. They're also fast ships. Though KDF raiders/escorts are weaker than Fed options now for higher end PvP play. The fleet cruisers are nice though don't fit so well w/Sci Captains generally speaking.

    Also, the Brel Retro and KarFi are available to as a reward for being a vet on a per character basis, not sure on the days required though.
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  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    **Loads Sevok into torpedo**

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    done.... ;)
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  • z0graz0gra Member Posts: 113 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    sevok wrote: »
    So I have a L50 Federation character, an Engineering Captain. I've flown Science Wessels from Day 1, though at each Tier I always tried out a Cruiser and an Escort for a few days... always went back to SV's. I just "get" the playstyle of using CC abilities and other tricks to make fights a LOT easier.

    But... I've really always wanted to play KDF side. So, I'm looking for a recommendation on a ship type/model for KDF-side that might play similarly to a Fed SV. My Klingon toon is just a couple levels past whereever they start at nowadays; it's been a while since I've logged on that side.

    get bortasq sci vessel. Equip it with phased polaron beams from the dominion mission all x8 of them.

    Get karfi use phased tetryons cannons on it and orion energy siphon drones along with energy siphon 3.

    Get fleet scourge destroyer equip it with DHC's antiproton

    Also i would recommend using the leech console on ALL the above ships but hold on just a moment because PWE might do the HUGE mistake and make this unique console availiable via lockboxes.....

    And then there is no reason at all to play KDF

    And for me there will be no reason to play start trek online anymore

    Besides that i am very happy to help ppl get into KDF side add me as friends and contact me with ventrilo if u want more into about building some decent KDF ships.

    All the information i have i am happy to share as long as you ppl play and support the KDF.
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