I think the F should just float around in various Sectors. Cryptic could make a game of it: Find and hail the Enterprise F and earn some Fleet Marks or Diltihium during the Event. Beyond that, I don't think NPCs should have any real purpose in the game. The Players are the heroes and should be the ones who shine in the various Missions and events.
STO is about my Liberated Borg Federation Captain with his Breen 1st Officer, Jem'Hadar Tactical Officer, Liberated Borg Engineering Officer, Android Ops Officer, Photonic Science Officer, Gorn Science Officer, and Reman Medical Officer jumping into their Jem'Hadar Carrier and flying off to do missions for the new Romulan Empire. But for some players allowing a T5 Connie to be used breaks the canon in the game.
I say give command of the KDF flagship to he who discovered the Undine first and have the vessels disaperance be told as the opening to a new KDF flavored STF for all to enjoy.
In the Starbase Defense fleet action I joined into yesterday, no less than EIGHT Bortasqu cruisers made up the final invasion force against our starbase. They even have Bortasqu in the name of the NPC.
It seems pretty clear to me that Bortasqu is the name of the ship class, not the name of the ship. I am aware that there have been many new ship classes who's first ship built is named after the class. The U.S.S. Constitution was the first Constitution class starship.
But considering that the Enterprise F is an Odyssey class and not an Enterprise class, I find it hard to believe that the Klingon's flagship is named the Bortasqu.
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Whatever it will be named and whomever will command the Bortasqu' class flagship for the KDF, Klingon players deserve their own flagship to compete with the Enterprise.
For clarity, I don't believe either of these vessels should be a central focus in Season 7, but they should have a noticeable presence in the game.
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Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
I say give command of the KDF flagship to he who discovered the Undine first and have the vessels disaperance be told as the opening to a new KDF flavored STF for all to enjoy.
No. I hate the entire F'n crew. I prefer they get lost in space and Data finds his way home.
Wow. Just...wow.
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"Fear God and Dread Nought." First Sea Lord, Adm. Jacky Fisher
KDF flagships are a little differant however.. in the tv series, usualy the flagship was commanded by the chancellor himself.
Yes and no.
In the "The Way of the Warrior" it was orignially commanded by general Martok.
So my guess is that it depends on the mission it's sent on and whether the chancellor feels his presence is needed (or good PR).:)
Ja'rod may be of the House of Duras but he does play significantly in the Undine storyline of the path to 2409, so why not give hime the flagship to search out the roots of the Undine subversion on the powers in the Qaudrant.
The Devs can always decide to make him a hero or a hidden subverted villian later in the game as the storyline progresses.
I think using him and creating a better Undine STF chain would go far to aligning the two factions at endgame to not only working togethr against teh Borg but the Undine as well, and ultimately the Iconians.
The way the game it set up the Devs attempted (fedside) to let the players see that the Undine have infiltrated deep into fedration command structure, thus meaning all is not kosher in the UFP.
In my opinion the Devs need to beef that storyline up and have the whole Undine event culminate in a series of KDF flavored agnostic STFs that allow teh player to realize that, "OmG, the KDF was right all along!" and we work togetehr to fix it.
It gives the KDf some pride back for doing what they knew to be right (fighting the Undine) and allows the feds to realize that while our actions may seem brusque and unthinking. We where on the right side of things all along.
I do think it would be nice to see the F, but more importantly to see some story line content, so far I am unimpressed with "season wirh no episodes 6" Star Trek is not about the grind, it is about exploration, and the adventure.......Lets see what is out there....engage
No. I hate the entire F'n crew. I prefer they get lost in space and Data finds his way home.
Data did find his way home. He retired and teaches at Oxford where (spoilers) he seems to be rebuilding Lore to stuff B4's mind in.
This was from a piece in Star Trek: Magazine, written by Kestrel.
Data is now retired from service. I don't know if him teaching at Oxford was a goof or if she meant for him to have a different teaching post than he had in "All Good Things" since Kestrel seems to have adopted almost all of that future aside from Troi's death and Riker commanding the Enterprise.
All of Geordi's future from "All Good Things," "Timeless," and the "Star Trek: Countdown" comic seems to be STO backstory. He commands the Challenger. He left Starfleet for a few years to help design the Jellyfish and restored Data. He has three kids by Leah Brahms although there's the added detail in STO lore that they later split up and he married another engineer.
Likewise, Picard is at his family vineyard and Beverly was last seen commanding the Pasteur. There's an implication they had a failed marriage which produced a son who's only interested in making wine in the STO novel, which seems to pick up off the two having a son in several other Trek novels set after Nemesis. (His name is ridiculous though; although I appreciate him having zero interest in Starfleet.)
Worf is a general in the Klingon Empire, who is at war with the Federation, ala "All Good Things."
What we know of the Voyager crew seems to borrow from "Timeless" and "Endgame" for their backstory although those details are all from their past. Seven is the big X-factor there and she left for parts unknown, disgusted that Starfleet wasn't more serious about anti-Borg measures.
The DS9 crew seems to take most of their cues from "The Visitor," although Nog has the added distinction of briefly serving as Enterprise chief engineer.
One thing I give Kestrel credit for is that she kept almost everything from every alternate future that was unlikely to be changed by time travel.
The art teams... less so. I mean, the Iconian facilities don't look all that Iconian. The ships emit purple energy when the shows used bright blue. The uniforms... I actually get not wanting to use All Good Things (they were designed to make actors look old, hence the hiked up pants) but virtually all futures (including 29th century) had a <-shaped lapel fastener for the uniforms and a horizontal stripe across the chest, so even new uniforms could have looked more "Trek future" than what we got, without AGT uniforms. The Romulan and Cardassian ships are especially off model, on the interior maps. Ships were very off model at launch although they're now at the very least better than DS9's early CG models.
The gameplay... less so too. They claim to be episodes but there's structure that episodes follow, even all action episodes, that I don't feel like STO tries for. The dialogue is especially off, something Jesse Heinig copped to in Vegas.
In many respects, I think STO tried too hard to adopt TOS elements and styles. (Original ESD, for example, looked like a Tron version of a TOS station.)
However... The CORE lore. I think Kestrel did a fantastic job of creating a screen authentic backstory by welding together the alternate futures from the shows and even some of the common projections made. I think the BACKSTORY for STO feels more authentic than the novels, which try to hard to be different for the sake of different.
I'm iffy on Shon. I gather there's support among Trek Lit fans for an Andorian Captain but I couldn't imagine a TV producer having a Captain in that much makeup unless they went with a Klingon. I'm really wary of "things they'd NEVER do on TV." Some people respond to that kind of thing by shouting, "At last!" I cringe a bit.
He's a bit one dimensional right now. Then again, most Trek Captains were in their first few appearances. I would not object to him being replaced quickly, though, as I don't see a Trek TV show using an Andorian Captain for the Enterprise unless they planned to ditch him quickly.
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It seems pretty clear to me that Bortasqu is the name of the ship class, not the name of the ship. I am aware that there have been many new ship classes who's first ship built is named after the class. The U.S.S. Constitution was the first Constitution class starship.
But considering that the Enterprise F is an Odyssey class and not an Enterprise class, I find it hard to believe that the Klingon's flagship is named the Bortasqu.
-The Milkshake Song: Vulcan Edition
[SIGPIC][/SIGPIC]
For clarity, I don't believe either of these vessels should be a central focus in Season 7, but they should have a noticeable presence in the game.
Kronos One? lol
Bortas and Negh'Var.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Capt. Will Conquest of the U.S.S. Crusader
Sounds like fun! I'd be for that!
NOOOOO! He's Duras. Duras is bad mojo.
Wow. Just...wow.
Former/Cryptic Name: Captain_Hans_Langsdorff
Founding member, Special Service Squadron
"Fear God and Dread Nought." First Sea Lord, Adm. Jacky Fisher
Yes and no.
In the "The Way of the Warrior" it was orignially commanded by general Martok.
So my guess is that it depends on the mission it's sent on and whether the chancellor feels his presence is needed (or good PR).:)
Ja'rod may be of the House of Duras but he does play significantly in the Undine storyline of the path to 2409, so why not give hime the flagship to search out the roots of the Undine subversion on the powers in the Qaudrant.
The Devs can always decide to make him a hero or a hidden subverted villian later in the game as the storyline progresses.
I think using him and creating a better Undine STF chain would go far to aligning the two factions at endgame to not only working togethr against teh Borg but the Undine as well, and ultimately the Iconians.
The way the game it set up the Devs attempted (fedside) to let the players see that the Undine have infiltrated deep into fedration command structure, thus meaning all is not kosher in the UFP.
In my opinion the Devs need to beef that storyline up and have the whole Undine event culminate in a series of KDF flavored agnostic STFs that allow teh player to realize that, "OmG, the KDF was right all along!" and we work togetehr to fix it.
It gives the KDf some pride back for doing what they knew to be right (fighting the Undine) and allows the feds to realize that while our actions may seem brusque and unthinking. We where on the right side of things all along.
R.I.P
Data did find his way home. He retired and teaches at Oxford where (spoilers) he seems to be rebuilding Lore to stuff B4's mind in.
This was from a piece in Star Trek: Magazine, written by Kestrel.
Data is now retired from service. I don't know if him teaching at Oxford was a goof or if she meant for him to have a different teaching post than he had in "All Good Things" since Kestrel seems to have adopted almost all of that future aside from Troi's death and Riker commanding the Enterprise.
All of Geordi's future from "All Good Things," "Timeless," and the "Star Trek: Countdown" comic seems to be STO backstory. He commands the Challenger. He left Starfleet for a few years to help design the Jellyfish and restored Data. He has three kids by Leah Brahms although there's the added detail in STO lore that they later split up and he married another engineer.
Likewise, Picard is at his family vineyard and Beverly was last seen commanding the Pasteur. There's an implication they had a failed marriage which produced a son who's only interested in making wine in the STO novel, which seems to pick up off the two having a son in several other Trek novels set after Nemesis. (His name is ridiculous though; although I appreciate him having zero interest in Starfleet.)
Worf is a general in the Klingon Empire, who is at war with the Federation, ala "All Good Things."
What we know of the Voyager crew seems to borrow from "Timeless" and "Endgame" for their backstory although those details are all from their past. Seven is the big X-factor there and she left for parts unknown, disgusted that Starfleet wasn't more serious about anti-Borg measures.
The DS9 crew seems to take most of their cues from "The Visitor," although Nog has the added distinction of briefly serving as Enterprise chief engineer.
One thing I give Kestrel credit for is that she kept almost everything from every alternate future that was unlikely to be changed by time travel.
The art teams... less so. I mean, the Iconian facilities don't look all that Iconian. The ships emit purple energy when the shows used bright blue. The uniforms... I actually get not wanting to use All Good Things (they were designed to make actors look old, hence the hiked up pants) but virtually all futures (including 29th century) had a <-shaped lapel fastener for the uniforms and a horizontal stripe across the chest, so even new uniforms could have looked more "Trek future" than what we got, without AGT uniforms. The Romulan and Cardassian ships are especially off model, on the interior maps. Ships were very off model at launch although they're now at the very least better than DS9's early CG models.
The gameplay... less so too. They claim to be episodes but there's structure that episodes follow, even all action episodes, that I don't feel like STO tries for. The dialogue is especially off, something Jesse Heinig copped to in Vegas.
In many respects, I think STO tried too hard to adopt TOS elements and styles. (Original ESD, for example, looked like a Tron version of a TOS station.)
However... The CORE lore. I think Kestrel did a fantastic job of creating a screen authentic backstory by welding together the alternate futures from the shows and even some of the common projections made. I think the BACKSTORY for STO feels more authentic than the novels, which try to hard to be different for the sake of different.
I'm iffy on Shon. I gather there's support among Trek Lit fans for an Andorian Captain but I couldn't imagine a TV producer having a Captain in that much makeup unless they went with a Klingon. I'm really wary of "things they'd NEVER do on TV." Some people respond to that kind of thing by shouting, "At last!" I cringe a bit.
He's a bit one dimensional right now. Then again, most Trek Captains were in their first few appearances. I would not object to him being replaced quickly, though, as I don't see a Trek TV show using an Andorian Captain for the Enterprise unless they planned to ditch him quickly.