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Fleet Red Alerts - Not For Cruisers

azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
edited August 2012 in Feature Episodes, Events and PvE Content
Seen too many times since they were introduced with Season 6 that when you are in a group with nothing but Cruisers, you never finish within the timelimit, thus not getting your fair share of the Fleet Marks and basically wasted your time. (Even worse during Fleet Mark Events).


Cryptic, please revise these events so that they balance the time limits when there is PUG Cruiser Groups.
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  • sollvaxsollvax Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Or just have a queue system like this

    Cruiser force (cruisers and science cruisers only)
    Sci force (science ships Only)
    Escort wing (Escorts only)
    Training wing (lt coms and down , adjust to LT com not VA)
    General alert (as it is now)
    Cross faction wing (mixed team)
    Solo elite (no team just you)
    and
    "Elite VA" team (only VA's)

    then maybe everyone will be happy
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  • lostmoonylostmoony Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    i do ~90%+ of perfekt runs with cruisers so i dont understand your prob sorry

    the only real prob can be that you get 2 lower lvls in your group then you must compesate alittle firepower but thats not really a prob.
  • defcon1776defcon1776 Member Posts: 313 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Me in my ExcelsiorR and 2 star cruisers completed FRA with 13 seconds to spare each with over 4.5k dps avg... 2 others bugged out
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  • darkwhite0darkwhite0 Member Posts: 158 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    lostmoony wrote: »
    i do ~90%+ of perfekt runs with cruisers so i dont understand your prob sorry

    the only real prob can be that you get 2 lower lvls in your group then you must compesate alittle firepower but thats not really a prob.

    agree

    some times i get 2 Miranda class in team... is a bit difficult. but it is possible to do ... it's just work together
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  • velktravelktra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I think it depends on the cruiser. If you've maxed out driver coil and stuck a couple of RCS Accelerator consoles on it, you can improve the turning by a ton. That with the right firepower and you're good.
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  • havamhavam Member Posts: 1,735 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    azurianstar wrote: »
    Seen too many times since they were introduced with Season 6 that when you are in a group with nothing but Cruisers, you never finish within the timelimit, thus not getting your fair share of the Fleet Marks and basically wasted your time. (Even worse during Fleet Mark Events).


    Cryptic, please revise these events so that they balance the time limits when there is PUG Cruiser Groups.

    When the STF revamp happened, we told Gozer make so that 5xEsc isn't the only viable option for those events....nothing happend
    THe FA revamp didn't happen, but currently the same problem exists since their appearance of Holodeck
    The Redalerts....same thing
    WIth the Fleetmissions we finally have some inkling towards healing and CC that sci boats/cruisers do better then Escorts.

    Have they balanced the player classes and ship classes ....hell no, baby steps stumbling into the right direction.....
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  • azurianstarazurianstar Member Posts: 6,985 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    havam wrote: »
    When the STF revamp happened, we told Gozer make so that 5xEsc isn't the only viable option for those events....nothing happend
    THe FA revamp didn't happen, but currently the same problem exists since their appearance of Holodeck
    The Redalerts....same thing
    WIth the Fleetmissions we finally have some inkling towards healing and CC that sci boats/cruisers do better then Escorts.

    Have they balanced the player classes and ship classes ....hell no, baby steps stumbling into the right direction.....

    Just shows they think there is balance, but there is none.

    Escorts may die fast, but given enough of them, you can clear out really fast. But Cruisers and Scis aren't the same.

    Will they listen? Absolutely not.
  • ascaladarascaladar Member Posts: 186 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    I am flying a tactical odyssey in a cruiser and I don't have problems with Fleet Red Alert. A few days ago I was even in a 5 Odyssey group and we also completed all waves without problems.

    Yes, with rainbow pony ships and low levels it is hard, but otherwise cruisers do fine.
  • midnighter90midnighter90 Member Posts: 14 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Try a Fleet Alert with 5 Science Ships and tell me again this game is balanced....
  • thibashthibash Member Posts: 506 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    If you can't do enough dps as a cruiser, you're just doing it wrong. Cruisers aren't escorts, but they're not helpless simply because they're not escorts. If you need 3k dps to get the job done, then it doesn't matter if you have 5k or 15k dps. You still get the job done. So in a way, escorts are just a waste of offensive abilities...

    velktra wrote: »
    I think it depends on the cruiser. If you've maxed out driver coil and stuck a couple of RCS Accelerator consoles on it, you can improve the turning by a ton.

    That is so wrong it seems more like trolling. Cruisers aren't escorts, so stop trying to force other people to play them as if they were.
  • drailhdrailh Member Posts: 31 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    azurianstar wrote: »
    Seen too many times since they were introduced with Season 6 that when you are in a group with nothing but Cruisers, you never finish within the timelimit, thus not getting your fair share of the Fleet Marks and basically wasted your time. (Even worse during Fleet Mark Events).


    Cryptic, please revise these events so that they balance the time limits when there is PUG Cruiser Groups.

    You've got to be kidding.
    I have finished all red alerts accolades being in my Excelsior retrofit because of the transwarp ability.
    She was fitted with mk11 stf weapons + the full retro borg set and most of the time i was grabing agro off everyone else.

    On the other hand, you may have found players who are after the maximum number of kills for their accolades and DGAF of the boss and leave it be so it can spawn more probes.

    edit : and please, you don't say cruisers need RCS console, a cruiser is here to tank and give broasides 6 to 8 weapons at once so it does not need to turn fast to circle around it anchor target.
  • sardociansardocian Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    drailh wrote: »
    You've got to be kidding.
    I have finished all red alerts accolades being in my Excelsior retrofit because of the transwarp ability.
    She was fitted with mk11 stf weapons + the full retro borg set and most of the time i was grabing agro off everyone else.

    On the other hand, you may have found players who are after the maximum number of kills for their accolades and DGAF of the boss and leave it be so it can spawn more probes.

    edit : and please, you don't say cruisers need RCS console, a cruiser is here to tank and give broasides 6 to 8 weapons at once so it does not need to turn fast to circle around it anchor target.

    I think you're confused...

    We're talking about Fleet Alerts, not the Borg Red Alerts you seem to be referring to.
  • velktravelktra Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    thibash wrote: »
    That is so wrong it seems more like trolling. Cruisers aren't escorts, so stop trying to force other people to play them as if they were.

    What are you even talking about? I wasn't suggesting to fly a cruiser like an escort; I was saying how you can improve the turn rate on one if you wanted to.

    Furthermore, telling people how to improve their turn rate is far from trolling. Trolling means intentionally disrupting other members' enjoyment of the forum (or the game), which is not what I was doing. I was taking part in a conversation. Please take your accusations elsewhere.
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  • diogene0diogene0 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited August 2012
    Or buy yourself a good defiant. No one is forced to fly on a cruiser, and the number of tacs making this mistake is really impressive.
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