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Kudos on Regent Class: Similar Reworking of, e.g., Negh'Var?
gradstudent1
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The team at PWE is to be commended for putting out a stunning revision of the Sovereign class. If I had to fly one ship on the Fed side, it would be the Sovereign, and this recent reworking of it, which is due to be released Thursday the 16th, will no doubt excite the Fed players.
I understand the supply-demand dynamics at play here: the Fed players are more numerous. Those of us on the KDF side are simply a minority client body. That said, I would make the following suggestion to the devs (I have already Tweeted this to Branflakes and CaptainGeko): A reworking of the Negh'var with a greater emphasis on flexibility in the BOFF positions (i.e., more universal slots). This would allow someone to shift the functionality of the ship more toward tactical or science, rather than being bound by its engineering BOFFs.
Such a reworking would have a number of benefits both to PWE and players. First, it would require less work on PWE's end than a brand-new ship. The skins can stay the same, I am talking about functionality. Second, it would feed the KDF hunger for something new on our side. Third, it would give Spidermitch something new to add to his already-gorgeous charts! (this last point is less important, admittedly).
(Edited Update) Console: A C-store variant would need to have a special console. Perhaps this could be some sort of "spinal lance" type weapon (see Gowran's attack on DS9) or perhaps some sort of high powered boarding party (in the same episode, the Negh'Var took out DS9's shields and beamed over boarding parties!) that would be quite a bit more powerful than the normal ability, which is easily countered with TT. Both proposals are "canon," if that matters to you.
If you support this proposal, or a similar one, please indicate as much in a reply. If enough people respond, I will personally send some of the devs tweets about the feedback. Thanks.
And let me say that if PWE decides to follow such a suggestion for the Negh'var, I will pay FULL price for it--not with converted dilithium, but with REAL cash.
I understand the supply-demand dynamics at play here: the Fed players are more numerous. Those of us on the KDF side are simply a minority client body. That said, I would make the following suggestion to the devs (I have already Tweeted this to Branflakes and CaptainGeko): A reworking of the Negh'var with a greater emphasis on flexibility in the BOFF positions (i.e., more universal slots). This would allow someone to shift the functionality of the ship more toward tactical or science, rather than being bound by its engineering BOFFs.
Such a reworking would have a number of benefits both to PWE and players. First, it would require less work on PWE's end than a brand-new ship. The skins can stay the same, I am talking about functionality. Second, it would feed the KDF hunger for something new on our side. Third, it would give Spidermitch something new to add to his already-gorgeous charts! (this last point is less important, admittedly).
(Edited Update) Console: A C-store variant would need to have a special console. Perhaps this could be some sort of "spinal lance" type weapon (see Gowran's attack on DS9) or perhaps some sort of high powered boarding party (in the same episode, the Negh'Var took out DS9's shields and beamed over boarding parties!) that would be quite a bit more powerful than the normal ability, which is easily countered with TT. Both proposals are "canon," if that matters to you.
If you support this proposal, or a similar one, please indicate as much in a reply. If enough people respond, I will personally send some of the devs tweets about the feedback. Thanks.
And let me say that if PWE decides to follow such a suggestion for the Negh'var, I will pay FULL price for it--not with converted dilithium, but with REAL cash.
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Love the design .....way over priced no ship should cost over 1200 Zen, The Boff layout sucks more universal slots are NEEDED, The console NEEDS to be for all cruisers, and Torpedo launcher should NOT be unique. I am tired of paying for things with so many restrictions. The worse part is the price gouging. This has been long awaited and Cryptic needed an epic win.....I think they got the look right the rest is debatable....and still not in Cryptic's favor. They really needed a home run here.....
What sort of special abilities would you give to a KDF premium cruiser? A heavy beam array? A cloaked mine net?
As you say, however, I think the Negh'var has the potential to bridge a few gaps, esp. in a science variant. It also has the potential to be successful because of its nostalgic value. If it were not so engineering heavy, I would drop my Bortasqu' Command in a second for it.
She has the similar BO layout (well close as she has that LT BOFF with the ENG having the ENS one) as the new Regent-class and a better turn rate and can mount cannons.
I'm personally gonna run one with the Vor'Kang skin.
U.S.S. Maelstrom, NCC-71417 (Constitution III-class/flagship) --- Fleet Admiral Hauk' --|-- Dahar Master Hauk --- I.K.S. qu'In 'an bortaS (D7-class / flagship)
...that costs almost the same price for a single character unlock. Personally I would love to have a c-store negh'var(or vor'cha) refit with the regent's boff layout and perhaps the disruptor equivalent of the gal-x's spinal lance
Rrezeth, Gorn Tactical, primary alt
Nari, Orion Science, secondary alt
2 universal stations would allow for an incredible amount of flexibility and would give the science people especially a solid Klingon cruiser that they could customize toward science. Or if a tactical person want to make the ship more tactical that could be done as well, though it might look very much like the upcoming Fleet Negh'var.
The beauty of what i am proposing, in my view, is the flexibility of the ship.
In addition, if it went C-stone, it would need to have a special console. As I proposed, perhaps this could be some sort of "spinal lance" type weapon or perhaps some sort of high powered bording party that would be quite a bit more powerful than the normal ability, which is easily countered with TT. Both proposals are "canon," if that matters to you.
Also I would like to see the bottom bits on the Negh'Var added in, as seen in the series. I would also like to see the ship being a C-Store account unlock rather than one of the overpriced and hard to get Fleet ships.
I think I would also like to see a new costume as well, to allow us KDFers to add some kitbashing options, it's something we currently lack and the Fleeters are flooded with.
I love the Mirror Vorcha for my engineer and I think giving the Negh'var a C-store refit with more emphasis on universal flexibility would be a much appreciated and welcome change.
You are absolutely right, but according to stowiki, there are no universal slots. The third engineering slot on the normal Negh'var goes to tactical. Thanks for posting and for bringing up this point.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=260069
Probably slightly overpowered.
I basically offered 1k Hull Hitpoints for an increase of the Universal slot to LTC which would give a nice option for all three player types. Also changed Power from Engines to shields because I think that would be more helpfull for people that wanted to invest more actual power into either engines or aux, though considering I don?t realy have any clue that might just be a very bad idea from myself. Could probably sacrifice one or two device slots as well.
I really like that set up, us KDFers don't need lots of okay ships, just a few exceptional ones. We prefer quality over quantity.
As for a weapon, perfect opportunity to give the Klingons a new torpedo weapon, something like the new Federation torpedo but obviously different to fit KDF standards and play style. As for a console something on par with the usefulness that the new Sovereign has (but obviously unique and Klingon like), which will make people want to buy the ship just for that. Though going by it's stats, that you suggested, I would buy it for the ship.