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Upcoming Windows 8 STO App (Speculation)

commadorebobcommadorebob Member Posts: 1,223 Arc User
So I can't help but notice that the Duty Officer UI was tweaked. While some have rightfully complained that it seems to take up more space now, I did come to one conclusion: the UI is now more "touch" friendly. It's almost as if the DOff system was being prepped for touchscreen interface. The UI also has a very Metro feel to it.

This is speculation and maybe off the mark. But it looks as if STO may be setting the DOff system to be a Windows 8 app. Most likely a free app that requires a gold sub to access the server.

/speculation

What do you think?
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  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    So I can't help but notice that the Duty Officer UI was tweaked. While some have rightfully complained that it seems to take up more space now, I did come to one conclusion: the UI is now more "touch" friendly. It's almost as if the DOff system was being prepped for touchscreen interface. The UI also has a very Metro feel to it.

    This is speculation and maybe off the mark. But it looks as if STO may be setting the DOff system to be a Windows 8 app. Most likely a free app that requires a gold sub to access the server.

    /speculation

    What do you think?

    Windows 8?

    Why not Android and OSX?
  • cptwilliam2cptwilliam2 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I do think they are setting it up to be more touch friendly, but i don't think Windows 8.

    Considering that they have limited time and budget, i would think they would put priority on Android and Apple OS, due to the increased number of users.
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  • commadorebobcommadorebob Member Posts: 1,223 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Windows 8?

    Why not Android and OSX?

    Because Windows 8 will have a larger market share than both of them by Christmas. It took Windows 7 30 days to break the OSX marketshare. At only $40 for an upgrade, Windows 8 will follow the same pattern.

    I do think they are setting it up to be more touch friendly, but i don't think Windows 8.

    Considering that they have limited time and budget, i would think they would put priority on Android and Apple OS, due to the increased number of users.

    Actually, it is because of the limited time and budget that makes me think it is a Windows 8 app. STO is already a Windows app. So there would be very little core program to need changing. The game is already x86/64 ready.

    Again, Windows 8 market share will exceed both of those by Christmas. At only $40 for an upgrade from Windows 7, a lot of users will upgrade. And while Apple owns the Tablet market, the tablet market still makes up a fraction of the total PC market. So making a Windows 8 app will make sense as more manufacturers start making Windows 8 tablets.

    But this is more speculation that there is an app coming. I just think Windows 8 makes more sense because STO is already a Windows app.
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  • walshicuswalshicus Member Posts: 1,314 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I would love this. I'm pretty much buying the Surface Pro on Day 1, so would be good to have a nice application to manage DOFF missions when not playing the main game.
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  • dcmstechdcmstech Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    So you think they have developed the API's to make this work? It would be more worthwhile to make it for iOS and Android than a standalone program for Win8. If Cryptic has not even developed the hooks to program anything other than the old my character web page. What make you think that this new visual tweak is anything more than window dressing? When The rubber meets the road then I will believe it.
  • cormorancormoran Member Posts: 440 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    From what i've read from some of the Cryptic peeps i wouldn't get your hopes up, chances are the app they're working on won't do more than maybe check your mail and the exchange. Atleast not for a good long while.

    Cryptic would be smart to make the app an... well... an actual app. Something that could easily be worked into all 3 types of tablets and their smart phone variants. As such the games UI design changes would have little to do with the development of such an app.
  • commadorebobcommadorebob Member Posts: 1,223 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    dcmstech wrote: »
    So you think they have developed the API's to make this work?

    Yes. They have.

    The only thing Cryptic has to do is add touchscreen support. After that, everything else is done at Cryptic. And just involves pulling the DOff system out and figuring out a way to have the app access the player account.

    I'm not saying they couldn't release it to all other platforms. But Cryptic has experience working with Windows... that's why I think it'll happen there first.
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  • admiralgillisadmiralgillis Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I am sticking with Windows 7 for the time being. Nothing good has ever come from me upgrading to the newest OS right after it's released.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Because Windows 8 will have a larger market share than both of them by Christmas. It took Windows 7 30 days to break the OSX marketshare. At only $40 for an upgrade, Windows 8 will follow the same pattern.




    Actually, it is because of the limited time and budget that makes me think it is a Windows 8 app. STO is already a Windows app. So there would be very little core program to need changing. The game is already x86/64 ready.

    Again, Windows 8 market share will exceed both of those by Christmas. At only $40 for an upgrade from Windows 7, a lot of users will upgrade. And while Apple owns the Tablet market, the tablet market still makes up a fraction of the total PC market. So making a Windows 8 app will make sense as more manufacturers start making Windows 8 tablets.

    But this is more speculation that there is an app coming. I just think Windows 8 makes more sense because STO is already a Windows app.

    Something just hit me.

    You work for a software company, don't you?

    I mean, I have friends who are programmers. One does AI for a defense contractor. Several have worked in telecom. But that doesn't make them tied in with software companies or computer manufacturers and I'd say they're like me in that they use Apple, Windows, Android, and Linux pretty interchangeably... and have a loyalty to Linux more than anything else.

    But you are tied in with more than just computers as a tool, aren't you? You're tied in with either a software company, a computer manufacturer, something like that? Not just a place that uses programming or computers to achieve a goal but someone whose product is an IT product?

    I know a hint of your resume, obviously, and this seems to come out in this thread and past threads where we've talked about Apple.

    I'll say what I said then. Number one in marketshare is moot. Multi-platform releases are what's important with a social game. Admittedly less so with a DOff app but this could strangle multi-player DOffing.

    I've said it before, I'll say it again. Anybody who has 5% of the marketshare needs a supported client on a social or potentially social app or game. You don't support it because it's #1. You support it because your target demo is not individual users but clusters of users... and if the wrong two people in a social group of twenty are unsupported, you'll lose a percentage (potentially a large one) of the people who do use the platform you develop for.

    Similarly, I don't think a casual MMORPG can sustain numbers over a million without a Mac client... and I still think that goes double for F2P games because Mac users are dramatically more likely to be in the group that spends.

    But we're not talking about Mac support for this game right now. Heck, I'd be happy if they stopped designing the website with IE6 in mind.

    I assumed the DOff app would be an HTML5 app with wrappers for different OSes.

    I really have no interest in it if I have to be on my Windows machine to use it because I'd just login to the game then.
  • dcmstechdcmstech Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    So if they add touch capability to the current game, what advantage will it give us who do not have touch screens for the desktop?
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    dcmstech wrote: »
    So if they add touch capability to the current game, what advantage will it give us who do not have touch screens for the desktop?

    I think the idea is not that the game would gain touch compatibility but that they're designing the DOff UI for a separate program or web app and that the changes are there so they can use the same UI in the separate program to save on UI work.
  • dcmstechdcmstech Member Posts: 39 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    the way OP presents the program he is describing is for both Win 8 Desktop and tablet. I don't think the Win 8 tablets will sell great but may provide a good alternative to the ones on the marke now. But to get eyes on STO, iOS and Android have a wider distribution for such a system.
  • starfleetfcstarfleetfc Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Star Trek Online App for Android and IPhone. Manage your DOFF's, chat, bank, and more!
  • atomicfbatomicfb Member Posts: 100 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Having an app for android or the iphone/ipad I would love to have.


    I don't see it being a Win 8 app though. Reason being is Win 8 will have a desktop pen it won't have much of a mobile penetration.
  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    The thing the OP fails to realize that theres no need for a separate app if you're running Windows 8 on a desktop PC then you can just boot up the game.... and thats if Windows 8 doesn't tank horribly (because Metro is not a desktop UI and it never should be.)

    The devs would be better off targeting Android and iOS for a touch friendly app, as they will continue to hold the majority of the market.
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  • stogungravestogungrave Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    If they want cross platform they should go with a html5 app.
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