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diogene0
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I've been trying the Tholian carrier since the release, and it may be time to share some thoughts about it.
First, it's the most overpowered ship, and probably one of the top 3 ships in game. It's definitely a pay to win ship, and the best carrier available in game with outstanding performances and versatility.
I think can be turned into the most resilient tank available in game with an engineering BO, or into a big debuff science machine.
The weakest stuff on this carrier are the pets, they are only really average, and the 5 seconds dps buff provided by the console is lame. The console is actually somewhat useless ; I'm starting to think I may remove it, it's not worth the slot it takes. The widow fighters are inferior to peregrines since it uses beams instead of cannons, which lowers the number of procs pets make, and the torpedo they use is good but inferior to chroniton torps. But this ship remains really epic. We may use any other universal console and pets anyway. Hopefully, the duration of the buff for the pets will be increaded to 30 seconds one day, and fleet versions of the widow fighters will have DHCs. :cool:
So, guys, what do you think of it?
There are some bugs and weird issues, though :
Bugs : You can equip green Stalker fighters.
Weird issues : you can equip dual heavy cannons even if it's not mentionned in the description of the ship.
Did you find more bugs or weird issues?
First, it's the most overpowered ship, and probably one of the top 3 ships in game. It's definitely a pay to win ship, and the best carrier available in game with outstanding performances and versatility.
I think can be turned into the most resilient tank available in game with an engineering BO, or into a big debuff science machine.
The weakest stuff on this carrier are the pets, they are only really average, and the 5 seconds dps buff provided by the console is lame. The console is actually somewhat useless ; I'm starting to think I may remove it, it's not worth the slot it takes. The widow fighters are inferior to peregrines since it uses beams instead of cannons, which lowers the number of procs pets make, and the torpedo they use is good but inferior to chroniton torps. But this ship remains really epic. We may use any other universal console and pets anyway. Hopefully, the duration of the buff for the pets will be increaded to 30 seconds one day, and fleet versions of the widow fighters will have DHCs. :cool:
So, guys, what do you think of it?
There are some bugs and weird issues, though :
Bugs : You can equip green Stalker fighters.
Weird issues : you can equip dual heavy cannons even if it's not mentionned in the description of the ship.
Did you find more bugs or weird issues?
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Actually its underpowered, but ill ignore that statement since its a typical reaction to anything new. Top 3 ships in game are Guramba, Jem'Hadar Attack ship and when set up right the Atrox. All 3 of those ships make short work out of all the new Tholian's. Thats from personal experience and watching in Ker'rat and other pvp instances.
dnaangel55 you have piqued my interest, what's your idea of a well set up Atrox ?
Actually I have the Atrox and I've been flying it since it was published, and even if it is a great carrier, it has major flaws, such as an afwul inertia and 9 consoles only. The BO layout is great, though, but it's still inferior to the one the tholian carrier has. You just need to slot a conn officer in the roster.
Also, stalker fighters aren't that great, especially in PvP. It's just a waste of dilithium unfortunately. And the nerf of phaser weapons significantly decreased the interest of peregrines.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
i see the problem here u play feds yes compared to atrox the tholian carrier is better.
however id say the kar'fi is still the best carrier even tho its not getting a season 6 update like other ships.
Food for thought...
And also, the Tholian Carrier is not really a versatile ship. Why? Because with it's setup, if you don't put a Tac in the Universal slot, it's tactical options are several limited. But if you do, your engineering and science options are limited in comparsion.
On the other hand, you can put an Eng or Sci in, which makes you one of the ultimate in that field... but you have bad Tac abilities.
If used right, it has effectiveness. But because it needs to be the best in only one field, and suffer in the others, it's not the best by a long shot. It's good, yes, but it's not too much thanks to that.
Been playing STO since Open Beta, and have never regarded anything as worse than 'meh', if only due to personal standards.
If you love tactical bridge officer slots, maybe. If you love debuffing targets while your pets deal a great amount of damage, it's definitely not the best.
The maneuverability should be roughly equivalent, and you have a very poor hull on the kar'fi.
The Atrox is way better than a kar'fi, and I think that the recluse is slightly better than the Atrox. Both are tanky science ships, which make them really usefull.
The Recluse just needs a few fixes to be really better than the Atrox. Better pets would be appreciated, for instance. Or a usefull universal console.
If you choose the right science abilities, you won't need any tactical abilities, except a single tac team anyway. Cmdr Science + LtCmdr science + ensign science gives you massive debuff abilities.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
if only but its clear cryptic favor feds why work on kdf when feds make more money
if u tear aprt the kar'fi so easly then you are fighting TRIBBLE players.
Bored now.
For the price of us getting 2 slots dowgraded to engsin i'd rather have had one be a universal too. As somone else said you can have an ok side order of science alongside your tac or eng options, but not the other ay round, and the ensigen sci is a bit wasted if you do go sci.
Not really, you may use a heal of a debuff depending on your main choice. But indeed, another universal slot would be welcome anyway. But I bet we won't get it now.
God, lvl 60 CW. 17k.
Ah the flaming hate I get from people is enough to justify its big price tag.:D:eek::D:confused:
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