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Spiral Wave Disruptors need a buff to be competitive with fleet weapons.

fulleatherjacketfulleatherjacket Member Posts: 980 Arc User
Since Cryptic decided lockbox ships should be equal to Fleet ships, it makes sense that the special weapons that come with them be boosted too.

Hence I suggest that Mk XII Spiral Wave disruptors be made available to buy at the dilithium store instead of the levelless versions that come with the ship (keep the ones that come with the ship as they are). Also, I think they should have a second damage modifier, making them [acc]x2, [dmg]x2.

They would be in line with advanced fleet weapons, but would be inferior to elite fleet weapons that have their own special ability.

Thoughts?
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  • hippiejonhippiejon Member Posts: 1,581 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I agree that they need to be buffed.
    I would love to see Mk XI and XII versions of these, with a variety of different procs.
    I do not see a need to give them 4 bonuses though.
    rares should get 2 , Very rares 3

    The upcoming ultra rare items ... who knows ?? 4 ... maybe that makes sense.
    but [acc]*2 [dmg]*2 is a way ... waaay overpowered weapon.

    I like this idea you posted though.
    A Lot.

    More Thoughts ?
  • raj011raj011 Member Posts: 987 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    and be used on other ships too.
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  • captpeacemakercaptpeacemaker Member Posts: 230 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    They can?

    I thought they could only be used on a Galor class
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  • grouchyotakugrouchyotaku Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I have 8 of these equipped on my Beam Boat Odyssey, so Yes, they can be used on other ships...

    However, with 2xACC, they're already one of the best Beam Array weapons in the game, and really don't need another buff... And MkXII weapons are far too valuable to be put in the Dilithium store. They deserve to be a reward, say for a long term Top Tier Fleet Starbase assignment to put them in the Fleet Store, or the next Featured Episode...
  • shapeywhelmshapeywhelm Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    most scaling weapons need a buff period, they really do need to go higher then the very rare Mk X or whatever they cap out at is.
  • carl104carl104 Member Posts: 87 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    most scaling weapons need a buff period, they really do need to go higher then the very rare Mk X or whatever they cap out at is.

    This i can agree with. Quad Cannons for example really should be the same at VA as a MK XII DHC with 4 Dmg modifiers.

    In fact IMHO all the scaling weapons should work out as equivelent to their normal MK XII vershon with the relevant suffix's. With the scaling working backwards from there. Not Forwards from MK I or whever it starts.
  • aelfwin1aelfwin1 Member Posts: 2,896 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    hippiejon wrote: »
    I agree that they need to be buffed.
    I would love to see Mk XI and XII versions of these, with a variety of different procs.
    I do not see a need to give them 4 bonuses though.
    rares should get 2 , Very rares 3

    Agreed .
    The fact that they get the power of phasers and disruptors could be counted as their 4th "bonus" .

    I'd also like the Quad Phasers added to the D-Store and be buffed and able to equip more than one on ships (if you already purchased the Sao Paulo) .
  • scififan78scififan78 Member Posts: 1,383 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I would also like to see them added to the STF store with [Borg] modifier. As for adding them to a fleet assignment to put in the fleet store, I disagree. I am the only one in my Fed fleet that owns a Galor. I would not feel right about asking (more like telling) my fleet members the need to contribute to a project that they can't reap the rewards for. I would say add it to a ship Doff assignment for Galor owners after their base reaches a certain tier.
  • longasclongasc Member Posts: 490
    edited July 2012
    We are already overpowering the enemy. STO isn't exactly difficult.
    For what reason should weapons who are already among the most powerful in the game get buffed even more with one extra modifier on top of that.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    That said, I DO think equipping cannons would be ideal since the D'Kora can use dual heavies and do everything else that the Galor can do reasonably well.
  • rdm1958rdm1958 Member Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    so for you that have these would you recommend buying several to arm a ship?
  • darkenzedddarkenzedd Member Posts: 881
    edited July 2012
    You can have your buff so long as the retro phaserbanks from the TOS Enterprise also get a buff.

    Wouldn't want them behind the MK12 as well would you? ;)
  • amayakitsuneamayakitsune Member Posts: 977 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    rdm1958 wrote: »
    so for you that have these would you recommend buying several to arm a ship?

    Theyre pretty awesome, even levelless... The disruptor proc and the phaser proc are two of the best in the game, and this weapon has them both. My Galor has 7 of these, and I seem to put out pretty good DPS.

    However I do think that these should get the same buff the the Quad Cannons got in Season 6.
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  • aesicaaesica Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    They already can be, if you own the Galor.
    I see them for sale in the dilithium store, but have never bothered trying to buy them. Do you actually need to own the GAlor in order to buy them...as in, will it give me an error if I try without owning a Galor?
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  • pyryckpyryck Member Posts: 6 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    aesica wrote: »
    I see them for sale in the dilithium store, but have never bothered trying to buy them. Do you actually need to own the GAlor in order to buy them...as in, will it give me an error if I try without owning a Galor?

    Just like some of the carrier pets, you have to own the Galor and have it in your personal fleet in order to purchase the weapons. :(
  • rdm1958rdm1958 Member Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I have 8 of these equipped on my Beam Boat Odyssey, so Yes, they can be used on other ships...

    However, with 2xACC, they're already one of the best Beam Array weapons in the game, and really don't need another buff... And MkXII weapons are far too valuable to be put in the Dilithium store. They deserve to be a reward, say for a long term Top Tier Fleet Starbase assignment to put them in the Fleet Store, or the next Featured Episode...

    i stumbled across these spiral wave disruptors and now want them. what do you use on your tactical consoles for these weapons?

    thanks
  • bawj4wsbawj4ws Member Posts: 102 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    rdm1958 wrote: »
    i stumbled across these spiral wave disruptors and now want them. what do you use on your tactical consoles for these weapons?

    thanks

    stick to the disruptor consoles for best results
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  • methclownmethclown Member Posts: 11 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I agree they need a buff, especially with the new phased tetryon weapons outshining them so bad in damage. Im starting to wonder if i should even use them on my Galor.
  • bitemepwebitemepwe Member Posts: 6,760 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I have 8 of these equipped on my Beam Boat Odyssey, so Yes, they can be used on other ships...

    However, with 2xACC, they're already one of the best Beam Array weapons in the game, and really don't need another buff...

    I agree with this. They are fine the way they are and do not need a buff.
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  • ebeneezergoodeebeneezergoode Member Posts: 227 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I have 8 of these equipped on my Beam Boat Odyssey, so Yes, they can be used on other ships...

    However, with 2xACC, they're already one of the best Beam Array weapons in the game, and really don't need another buff... And MkXII weapons are far too valuable to be put in the Dilithium store. They deserve to be a reward, say for a long term Top Tier Fleet Starbase assignment to put them in the Fleet Store, or the next Featured Episode...

    They do cost double what most weapons cost on the D-store.
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  • jnohdjnohd Member Posts: 5 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Would be nice to see fleet hybrids instead of or in addition to what they have planned. Spiral wave cannons... heh.
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  • onenonlydrockonenonlydrock Member Posts: 132 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    They could use a tiny damage boost so that they're more in line with the new phased tetryon weaponry.

    Otherwise, no complaints here.
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