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nitrous82nitrous82 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
So here we are, now offically a week into season 6, and PW has announced that they are adding Tholian lockboxes into the game tomorrow, so with the game being buggy as hell at the moment, with several things not working, what the hell, lets throw another lockbox into the game, I get that its a great way for them to get players to spend their zen on keys, but for the love of god, fix the other problems first PLEASE.

Lets take a look at a few of the current problems.

1. KDF Academy Lore mission not working, can't drop the mission either.
2. Tholian missions say they drop Fleet marks, but when you turn the missions in, no marks awarded.
3. The Exchange - Nuff said there.
4. Can't set the camera to auto follow your ship anymore
5. Fleet marks event, doesn't award the extra marks it says it does, I did actually test this, ran the same mission both during the event, and not during the event and got the same amount.

I am sure there are more that I have not listed here, everyone please feel free to add to the list, in a couple of days I am going to email the link to this thread to PW to show them how displeased everyone is.

In the meantime, I suggest that we all take a stand against the Tholian lock boxes, and its actually quite simple, STOP BUYING KEYS.

Its time we all take a stand and put an end to this TRIBBLE and get the problems solved once and for all, so I ask everyone to let all your friends/fleetmates/ally fleets know this, and lets try to band together to end this TRIBBLE.
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  • majesticmsfcmajesticmsfc Member Posts: 1,401 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    KDF enough said, fix the KDF and produce the content they need.
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  • carbongripcarbongrip Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Not one of these threads again, as for the season six bugs you showed the Tholian ones are not one because the fleet marks that are shown are only given during fleet mark events.
  • conceptz82conceptz82 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I agree completly on the lockboxes i have a few points here
    1. I am aware it is not the cryptic teams fault, they know very well most of the playerbase hates these things and likes them in doff packs.
    2. Them in doff packs would still be random and rare so would not be breaking paramounts rules.
    3. PWE try listening to the players that have come across to your company when you bought these games. We HATE the lockboxes, get it HATE THEM.
    4. PWE, if you want to do the random lottery thing like you do with boxes on your ther games, add them to doff packs, if you would bother to check cistomer feedback you would see players like that method and HATE, the lockbox spamming.
    5. PWE, you cause alot of grief for the staff on the cryptic games, as they have to take alot of flak from players that don't realise that they know players hate it, but are being forced by PWE to do this.
    6. If you continue to use this system then at leasyt give us the ability to TURN OFF, seeing the lockboxes drop every 5 seconds. Shoving a box in my face every few seconds is not going to make me buy keys, the spam is just gonna annoy me and PUT ME OFF buying keys to open them.
    7. If you are not gonna do what is suggested in no6, then at the very least give the drop rate of these things a very big nerf, 95% of lockboxes dropped just get recycled anyway, so why anger players n create un nesacery server data on stuff that is NEVER, going to get used.
  • roacquisitionroacquisition Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Now, as long enough people buy the keys, the lockboxes will stay in the game. I don't care anymore, PWE ruined the game for me. I am off to Kingsmouth now... :D
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  • rhouggarhougga Member Posts: 10 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    To be honest, I absolutely HATE lockboxes! I haven't bought any lockbox keys since they were first put in the game. I would rather get ship gear for space drops and ground gear for ground drops or even Energy Credits and Dilithium would be preferable in my opinion.

    For those of us who can't stand and don't want to deal with lockboxes and have no intention of buying keys to open them, why not allow these players the option to "pick the lock of a lockbox" and get something like what used to drop BEFORE lockboxes where introduced into the game. Let them be useful in some way for those of us who aren't and don't intend to buy keys. Picking the lock on a lockbox is a far better alternative than having players who hate/don't want them to keep raging over them.

    And that is my 2 cents; take it for what it's worth to you.
  • ozewaozewa Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    They're supposed to be patching tonight to put the lockboxes in, maybe take a look at the patch notes later.
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  • gypsybladegypsyblade Member Posts: 730 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    This box is a lot better than the others.. they're learning what we're willing to spend money on... I hope the boxes in the future will be just as good or better.. they've set a bar with this...

    As I've said before...

    Game is Free to Play not Everything for Free

    Business need to make money...... nobody is forcing you to purchase anything...
  • anagrojanewayanagrojaneway Member Posts: 48 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I like the idea of them in DOff packs (though since DOff packs are actually just virtual random trading cards, it's funny that some people find them so different than lock boxes - I get the difference, but it's still just cash for virtual goods) but I'm glad they are doing lock boxes again - because I am always at my 400 DOff cap, I have 350+ purples, and I simply cannot participate unless they up the DOFF space with the C-store again.

    I'm all for stuff in DOff packs, once they give us the ability to purchase larger DOff storage.
  • sirepicalsirepical Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    nitrous82 wrote: »
    So here we are, now offically a week into season 6, and PW has announced that they are adding Tholian lockboxes into the game tomorrow, so with the game being buggy as hell at the moment, with several things not working, what the hell, lets throw another lockbox into the game, I get that its a great way for them to get players to spend their zen on keys, but for the love of god, fix the other problems first PLEASE.

    Lets take a look at a few of the current problems.

    1. KDF Academy Lore mission not working, can't drop the mission either.
    2. Tholian missions say they drop Fleet marks, but when you turn the missions in, no marks awarded.
    3. The Exchange - Nuff said there.
    4. Can't set the camera to auto follow your ship anymore
    5. Fleet marks event, doesn't award the extra marks it says it does, I did actually test this, ran the same mission both during the event, and not during the event and got the same amount.

    I am sure there are more that I have not listed here, everyone please feel free to add to the list, in a couple of days I am going to email the link to this thread to PW to show them how displeased everyone is.

    In the meantime, I suggest that we all take a stand against the Tholian lock boxes, and its actually quite simple, STOP BUYING KEYS.

    Its time we all take a stand and put an end to this TRIBBLE and get the problems solved once and for all, so I ask everyone to let all your friends/fleetmates/ally fleets know this, and lets try to band together to end this TRIBBLE.

    Come on, lock boxes are much more important than fixing vital bugs in the system! Everyone likes boxes!
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  • cmdrskyfallercmdrskyfaller Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Interesting fact:

    The only items the devs make that are bug-free and work perfectly after every patch is the lockbox TRIBBLE and cstore items.


    Anything that was pre-F2P and any game mechanic they screwed up in the past few months is ignored and left to be as it is.

    Get it in your heads people, Cryptic has PWE's thumb up their rear ends.

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  • anthonyxmas1anthonyxmas1 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    My concern is that they are coming out with different lock-boxes every three months (my dates may be off).

    It started with holiday gift boxes in December 2011 with the Jem'Hadar ship.

    Then there were Cardassian lock-boxes from January 2012 to March 2012 with the Galor ship.

    Then there were Ferengi lock-boxes from April 2012 to June 2012 with the Ferengi ship.

    Now, July 2012, we have Tholan lock-boxes with at least Tholian ships, and the Lobi store will no longer provide Ferengi goods.

    It seems that the changes are coming too fast. I'm running out of personal bank space (I bought the maximum number of extra bank slots) for Ferengi and (soon) Tholian lock-box items which, once unpacked, will have bound items once equipped.

    And I don't even have all the items from the Lobi store (not that I want all of them).

    Then there would be a need for extra ship slots for any ships that may come with the lock-boxes.

    Will we see a new type of lock-box, every three months, for every alien in the Star Trek Universe?

    How can we store the new items from the lock-boxes? We will have to dump irreplaceable bound items to make room for new items. I'm not as bad as some pack-rats in the game, but having so many bound items is getting ridiculous.

    Perhaps the lock-box items can be made bind-by-account, so I can at least store items with my alts, whether or not they use them.
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  • molen#7916 molen Member Posts: 55 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    According to Cryptic, lock boxes is what's bringing in the majority of the money now that it's F2P. If that's what it takes to keep the game alive, so be it. My biggest beef with lock boxes was that you had to roll on them constantly but now that they fixed that I don't see any major problem with them. Ignore/delete them is no problem for me. They've also tried to fix "buyers remorse" by putting better stuff in the boxes.

    The bugs issue is something I'm way more concerned about but that has little to do with the lock boxes.
  • stoney3kstoney3k Member Posts: 7 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    IMO, those boxes wouldn't be such a nuisance if their in-game representation wasn't so enormous.

    Right now, when a lock box drops, it's a very big piece of 3D object that's blocking your view. Especially when you're in the middle of a big combat scene, some NPC drops a box, and all of a sudden your target view is obscured by one of these boxes.

    The only way to get around them is to pick them up and shove them out the airlock, which is time consuming and annoying.

    I would have less trouble with these lock boxes if they were at least the same size as any other drop icon, since the other drops are easy to walk or look around.

    I personally do like the idea of having random items and I like the idea of having an incentive to spend ZEN on something, but not the way it is implemented now. IMO, Perfect World would be much better off with items in the C-store that are worth our money, instead of advertising stuff in our face we don't want to spend money on.

    Picking the lock on a lock box is also a good idea to work on, IMO. It might need some special items or resources and yield less 'valuable' items, but at least it would make them useful for those of us who don't want to buy any Master Keys. Also, having 'sets' of items with special abilites or achievements hidden over several Lock Boxes would make it more worth it for me.
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    kallex76 wrote: »
    According to Cryptic, lock boxes is what's bringing in the majority of the money now that it's F2P. If that's what it takes to keep the game alive, so be it. My biggest beef with lock boxes was that you had to roll on them constantly but now that they fixed that I don't see any major problem with them. Ignore/delete them is no problem for me. They've also tried to fix "buyers remorse" by putting better stuff in the boxes.

    The bugs issue is something I'm way more concerned about but that has little to do with the lock boxes.
    I agree. you can't have a F2P game that's ACTUALLY free.
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  • kronkstomperkronkstomper Member Posts: 4 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I also hate these lockboxes you buy a key and get junk that could have gotten from regular drops.
    If you insest on keys at least put things you cant get in normal drops as to what im not shure but if you insist on the junk at least make it so master keys will drop in the game from time to time.
    i deleted 400 cardisan boexs and at least 600 frengi boxes and as far as tholian to date 40 and counting 125 zen a key is too rich for my wallet.

    oh an idea you wont use make the key prices cheaper by half ya might sell a whole lot more and get less players so mad.

    But hey you run the game like a frengi merchant so i dont see it happening.
  • lordmalak1lordmalak1 Member Posts: 4,681 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    carbongrip wrote: »
    Not one of these threads again, as for the season six bugs you showed the Tholian ones are not one because the fleet marks that are shown are only given during fleet mark events.

    Ya, the 'BONUS' is that you actually recieve them.
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  • sirepicalsirepical Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    So far with this lock box, I've opened 2 and got one item from each that sells for a lot more than the keys. Best lock box evah!
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  • elchup47elchup47 Member Posts: 50 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Lockboxes are going to be around as long as they make good money, which means as long as the minority who likes to gamble keeps blowing money on them they are here to stay and all the threads whinging about them isn't going to change that.

    Either stop playing the game or put up with them and get on with the rest of the game experience. It's that simple. Frankly, all the pointless threads moaning at PWE or Cryptic are becoming far more tedious than the boxes themselves.

    If you want to moan at anyone then moan at the people keeping the lockboxes alive - your fellow players.
  • crusty8maccrusty8mac Member Posts: 1,381 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Lock boxes = $$$$
    $$$$ = the ability to pay bills
    Bills = salaries of people that fix bugs (among other things).

    This iteration of lock boxes is much less intrusive. I plan on opening two on each of my toons.

    Thanks, Cryptic, for a well thought out compromise.
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