I can hardly find any good words on the forums about season 6... It seems to me that only those who are dissapointed take their time to say what they think.
So, heres mine...
Thank you Cryptic for giving us something to do at high levels. You still have a long way to got, but me and my fleet think its a good start in the right direction! I know that you can't fullfill the wishes of us all at the same time, so keep up the good work!
As for mine would be some love for the Galaxy X ;-)
CharlieTwoDelta@EzriRayne
U.S.S. Bad Girl's Dream NX-91101 Galaxy class Dreadnought - Flagship of "Inner Circle"
I am very much enjoying the ground invasion, starbase defense, no-win scenario, Tholian missions, fleet starbases, etc. etc.
Besides fleet starbases and fleet advancement, there's plenty to do until and after Cryptic comes out with more Featured Episodes (if any), more missions, more sectors, and more factions.
I have to say that season 6 is not a bug filled disaster, that in it self is a marginal success. Hopefully this momentum will lead into some decent story line content. Although the stock dropped by releasing a season feature that requires the pay to win aspect to complete.....one step forward three steps back.
Feature updates were never supposed to cost real money to attain, only fluff. Guess someones moral compass is so screwed up they will be unable to locate which Starship is theres in an empty space dock.
F2p is a betrayal to the subscriber, because the Devs said nothing is going to change for subscribers, and we are now consistently nickeled and dimed to death as if we have paid nothing to be here, and the culture of taking care of the customer who pays your pay check has sadly degraded. The F2p player who invests almost nothing still pays very little to play and the subscriber base get hit with burden of the differance. Bottom line the culture is of F2p at Cryptic is the betrayal, because this is not the level of service and double dipping as far as cost that we signed up for.
We said what stops Cryptic from raising prices to negate our stipend
Cryptic said we would not do that we will always listen to your feed back and take care of the community..........it did not happen........since F2p the subscriber has not been taken care of.
I am a Star Trek fan.....but Pwe makes me doubt what I love everytime they sour the milk. Eventually I will get tired of the taste of consistently sour milk and stop drinking it all together.
I can say with little doubt I will not touch another Pwe or Cryptic title and I would advise the same to anyone who asks my opinion. My trust and customer loyalty has not been earned, it has only betrayed with little remorse.
Yes, thank you Cryptic! I'm having a blast in this new Season so far. Plenty of stuff to do and I'm finding the repeatable events a lot more fun and engaging than the STFs. Looking forward to the Foundry being unlocked as well!
Most people now a days always want everything for free... People are downloading videos and music and dont feel bad about betraying the people who work for it to produce this stuff...
I have absolutly no problem paying C-Store poi... um Zen-Points for new stuff that somebody has worked for creating it. People should get paied for their work.
Season 6 is far too bug ridden right now for me to enjoy it. As soon as Cryptic correct the long list of errors caused by the update, I'll enjoy it alot more.
Most people now a days always want everything for free... People are downloading videos and music and dont feel bad about betraying the people who work for it to produce this stuff...
I have absolutly no problem paying C-Store poi... um Zen-Points for new stuff that somebody has worked for creating it. People should get paied for their work.
But you should also get a product worth what your paying. When ALL T5 ships in the C-store 20 to 25 dollars each are account wide unlocks. How is it worth paying 20 dollars for a ship that only unlocks on one character.
It is not that we want things for free. so please don't use that excuse to sweep the concerns under the rug. It is the fact that the product they produced is not at the value that they are charging.
Added to that they came out and said that the fleet ships would be significantly lower then the C-store prices, but failed to act on that expectation. even if they had no choice to keep it. they as a business should not have said what they said because when you set unrealistic expectations. Customers will get upset.
But the biggest thing for me is how much were paying for so little. Yes I want the devs to get paid. they should get paid for their work, BUT the current fleet ships are not worth what the devs are charging. They are using old models of the ships most of which have been in the game for 2 years, and all they did was change the stats a little bit so they can slap on a 20 dollars each character price tag.
I would really like someone to logically explain to me how it is worth it at that price point when you can get a ship just as powerful or better for 20 to 25 dollars for EVERY character on your account?
Oh and yes thank you for season 6. while your prices are crazy. I like the idea of a fleet working to build something together. it also seems to be lacking bugs.. well other then the bugs I have to kill with my phaser.
Most people now a days always want everything for free... People are downloading videos and music and dont feel bad about betraying the people who work for it to produce this stuff...
I have absolutly no problem paying C-Store poi... um Zen-Points for new stuff that somebody has worked for creating it. People should get paied for their work.
I agree completely with you. People should get something for their work. Now what is grinding for a Starbase? Work. What do you get after spending months on that to get a ship? A tiny fraction of 5 $. But let me explain.
The fleet retrofit ships are as powerful as the Odyssey and Bortas classes you can get in three flavours in the C-Store and the Armitage. All seven also come with a special console and can be claimed on every character of the appropriate faction you make, usually 2 but it becomes more with every character slot you buy. For that you pay 25 $.
For a fleet retrofit you have to grind, then you pay 20 $ for a ship without a special console that only ONE character can use. All your grinding is worth less than 2.5 $.
As the Jes-man used to say on STOked: You've been mathed.
FKA K-Tar, grumpy Klingon/El-Aurian hybrid. Now assimilated by PWE.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Yes, thank you Cryptic! I'm having a blast in this new Season so far. Plenty of stuff to do and I'm finding the repeatable events a lot more fun and engaging than the STFs. Looking forward to the Foundry being unlocked as well!
Likewise, I particularly like that they aren't just DPS races like the STFs are, CC and healing is actually pretty important, or at least desirable in most of them.
The thing I like about your post is that you are telling us what you think without being rude. I like that. Alot of other players are. That was the reason for this thread.
The answer to your question is no. you are not crazy. Priority is just on something else than exploration. Hang in there - I am sure they will make exploration to something unique and fun someday. like I said before - we can't all have everything at once. Besides - you're a lifer - you got time! :-)
please excuse my english... I'm outside the states for quite some time and I'm loosing it.
Cryptic coulda easily made every fleet ship a new model and a new name, and none of this negative TRIBBLE about having the buy the ship again woulda happened.
Instead of the Fleet Tactical Escort Refit, It coulda been a new model, New name. And instead of paying another $5 for an Upgrade it woulda been $20 for everyone, etc.
Cryptic coulda easily made every fleet ship a new model and a new name, and none of this negative TRIBBLE about having the buy the ship again woulda happened.
Instead of the Fleet Tactical Escort Refit, It coulda been a new model, New name. And instead of paying another $5 for an Upgrade it woulda been $20 for everyone, etc.
I think it still would have happened. 20 dollars for a single character unlock seems crazy when the norm is 20 to 25 for a account wide unlock. added to that. they did have their devs out talking about the fleet ships, and they did say it would be lower in price then the current C-store ships. If you set expectations like that and not keep them. ( even if you can't. ) then your going to upset the customers. First rule of good customer service. Don't set expectations you can not keep. because in the customers mind. the customer is always right.
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I am very much enjoying the ground invasion, starbase defense, no-win scenario, Tholian missions, fleet starbases, etc. etc.
Besides fleet starbases and fleet advancement, there's plenty to do until and after Cryptic comes out with more Featured Episodes (if any), more missions, more sectors, and more factions.
LAUREN RULZ !!!!!!!!
Feature updates were never supposed to cost real money to attain, only fluff. Guess someones moral compass is so screwed up they will be unable to locate which Starship is theres in an empty space dock.
F2p is a betrayal to the subscriber, because the Devs said nothing is going to change for subscribers, and we are now consistently nickeled and dimed to death as if we have paid nothing to be here, and the culture of taking care of the customer who pays your pay check has sadly degraded. The F2p player who invests almost nothing still pays very little to play and the subscriber base get hit with burden of the differance. Bottom line the culture is of F2p at Cryptic is the betrayal, because this is not the level of service and double dipping as far as cost that we signed up for.
We said what stops Cryptic from raising prices to negate our stipend
Cryptic said we would not do that we will always listen to your feed back and take care of the community..........it did not happen........since F2p the subscriber has not been taken care of.
I am a Star Trek fan.....but Pwe makes me doubt what I love everytime they sour the milk. Eventually I will get tired of the taste of consistently sour milk and stop drinking it all together.
I can say with little doubt I will not touch another Pwe or Cryptic title and I would advise the same to anyone who asks my opinion. My trust and customer loyalty has not been earned, it has only betrayed with little remorse.
I have absolutly no problem paying C-Store poi... um Zen-Points for new stuff that somebody has worked for creating it. People should get paied for their work.
But you should also get a product worth what your paying. When ALL T5 ships in the C-store 20 to 25 dollars each are account wide unlocks. How is it worth paying 20 dollars for a ship that only unlocks on one character.
It is not that we want things for free. so please don't use that excuse to sweep the concerns under the rug. It is the fact that the product they produced is not at the value that they are charging.
Added to that they came out and said that the fleet ships would be significantly lower then the C-store prices, but failed to act on that expectation. even if they had no choice to keep it. they as a business should not have said what they said because when you set unrealistic expectations. Customers will get upset.
But the biggest thing for me is how much were paying for so little. Yes I want the devs to get paid. they should get paid for their work, BUT the current fleet ships are not worth what the devs are charging. They are using old models of the ships most of which have been in the game for 2 years, and all they did was change the stats a little bit so they can slap on a 20 dollars each character price tag.
I would really like someone to logically explain to me how it is worth it at that price point when you can get a ship just as powerful or better for 20 to 25 dollars for EVERY character on your account?
Oh and yes thank you for season 6. while your prices are crazy. I like the idea of a fleet working to build something together. it also seems to be lacking bugs.. well other then the bugs I have to kill with my phaser.
I agree completely with you. People should get something for their work. Now what is grinding for a Starbase? Work. What do you get after spending months on that to get a ship? A tiny fraction of 5 $. But let me explain.
The fleet retrofit ships are as powerful as the Odyssey and Bortas classes you can get in three flavours in the C-Store and the Armitage. All seven also come with a special console and can be claimed on every character of the appropriate faction you make, usually 2 but it becomes more with every character slot you buy. For that you pay 25 $.
For a fleet retrofit you have to grind, then you pay 20 $ for a ship without a special console that only ONE character can use. All your grinding is worth less than 2.5 $.
As the Jes-man used to say on STOked: You've been mathed.
Sometimes, if you want to bury the hatchet with a Klingon, it has to be in his skull. - Captain K'Tar of the USS Danu about J'mpok.
Likewise, I particularly like that they aren't just DPS races like the STFs are, CC and healing is actually pretty important, or at least desirable in most of them.
http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/showthread.php?t=312841
The answer to your question is no. you are not crazy. Priority is just on something else than exploration. Hang in there - I am sure they will make exploration to something unique and fun someday. like I said before - we can't all have everything at once. Besides - you're a lifer - you got time! :-)
please excuse my english... I'm outside the states for quite some time and I'm loosing it.
Cryptic coulda easily made every fleet ship a new model and a new name, and none of this negative TRIBBLE about having the buy the ship again woulda happened.
Instead of the Fleet Tactical Escort Refit, It coulda been a new model, New name. And instead of paying another $5 for an Upgrade it woulda been $20 for everyone, etc.
I think it still would have happened. 20 dollars for a single character unlock seems crazy when the norm is 20 to 25 for a account wide unlock. added to that. they did have their devs out talking about the fleet ships, and they did say it would be lower in price then the current C-store ships. If you set expectations like that and not keep them. ( even if you can't. ) then your going to upset the customers. First rule of good customer service. Don't set expectations you can not keep. because in the customers mind. the customer is always right.
The out rage would still happen I think.