I haven't been paying enough attention to KDF ships of late (Long story but I can't play with out insane lag ATM) but we really do need Fleet Versions of our very popular Kar'fi, and Garumba ships.
I was once DKnight1000, apparently I had taken my own name so now I'm DKnight0001. If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why. When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Kar-Fi has a phasing console so I'm uncertain what the issue is here. I don't even know how the console performs. A couple posts by Kar-Fi captains I've read indicate I'm not the only one. Maybe they figure nobody would buy the standard ship for the console so they they don't see the fleet version as a sell point for the former. It's not as palatable as a technical hiccup (Garumba console justification; Kar-Fi wasn't explained) but ,"not worth the effort" is where I'm placing my bets.
Kar'fi definitely needs an upgrade. Maybe we'll get it after they upgrade the Atrocious.. umm, Atrox... and Armitage, lol.
The phase console on the Kar'fi makes you temporarily invulnerable to damage, but you can't launch fighters while phased nor fire torpedoes. If I remember correctly, you can still fire energy weapons.. but don't quote me on that.
OP reallydumbpwe Kar'fi definitely needs an upgrade.
I don't know about this one. The Kar-Fi rocks and is a wonderful ship. On the other hand there are many ships getting the upgrade that don't need them so it is hardly criteria for not improving upon it.
OP piwright42 So wait because the Javelin in not a console no fleet version of the Garumba.
Yes, the siege mode/ javelin is an inbuilt ability that doesn't utilize a console. The technical issues porting the Garamba without console were cited by Gecko as reasons for not doing so when he was interviewed recently.
Some reasons for other ships not making the cut included the gorn vessels described as all looking the same and the highest tier orion vessel apparently looked too much like a potato (It reminded me of a ship from David Lynch's Dune).
Well I guess with the Garumba and Dreadnought not having a console but a free ability thats like a Beam Overload, Plus 9 other console slots they figure they are already +1?
And really the Kar'Fi, I have it and while Im Disapointed it has no fleet version. Many consider it the best ship in game. A Carrier, With special Pets, And a good Turn Rate, Shield Mod, etc
They prob consider it already +1.
Same goes the the Oddy and Bortas. They arent getting a fleet version, they are already a +1, 10 Console ship. The Oddy and Bortas that unlocks at Tier 5 Shipyard is only 9 Consoles to the C-Stores 10.
Just IMO, but stat wise and loadout makes since to me. Sadly thats all the ships I bought. Guess I bought the right C-Store ships, but doesnt give me much to look forward to in the fleet store.
I'd very much like to see a fleet version of the Karfi. I mean, why not?! We're gonna be paying for fleet ships with zen anyway (BS if you ask me) but why not pump out as many as possible to generate cash?
I would absolutely love to see the science of KDF receive some fleet love, and so no reason why it can't.
Three simple things to do:
Swap the Fleet Vo'quvs tenth console to tac.
Add in a fleet Gorn ship, all looking the same is a great argument for not adding two.
Add in a fleet Kar'fi (preferably with a 3rd eng console), this is JUST a Kar'fi, Skuls and Frigs remain unavailable unless you have a regular Kar'fi.
Well I guess with the Garumba and Dreadnought not having a console but a free ability thats like a Beam Overload, Plus 9 other console slots they figure they are already +1?
And really the Kar'Fi, I have it and while Im Disapointed it has no fleet version. Many consider it the best ship in game. A Carrier, With special Pets, And a good Turn Rate, Shield Mod, etc
They prob consider it already +1.
Same goes the the Oddy and Bortas. They arent getting a fleet version, they are already a +1, 10 Console ship. The Oddy and Bortas that unlocks at Tier 5 Shipyard is only 9 Consoles to the C-Stores 10.
Just IMO, but stat wise and loadout makes since to me. Sadly thats all the ships I bought. Guess I bought the right C-Store ships, but doesnt give me much to look forward to in the fleet store.
It's turn rate isn't anything special, granted it is higher than any other two hanger carrier. It has a good shield mod sure, but its hull is kinda weak...only slightly higher than the Armitage, the fleet version of the Armitage I think has better hull than the Kar'fi.
I honestly don't think the pets make up for a console slot and improved stats.
I'm hoping its suffering from the same problem of the Atrox...and that we will see a flet version of the Kar'fi eventually.
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Kar'fi definitely needs an upgrade. Maybe we'll get it after they upgrade the Atrocious.. umm, Atrox... and Armitage, lol.
The phase console on the Kar'fi makes you temporarily invulnerable to damage, but you can't launch fighters while phased nor fire torpedoes. If I remember correctly, you can still fire energy weapons.. but don't quote me on that.
I've seen what people can do with that ship in STFs and pvp enough times to know for certain it isn't being "left behind". Its still the best carrier even compared to the Fleet Vo'quv. Its fine as it is.
I'm sure they'll add more Fleet versions eventually... as they most likely won't make and new KDF ships.. they will eventually make a Fleet Kar'fi.. just a matter of how long
How long? You mean like how theyll give the Dread saucer Seperation soon? lol
How many months has the Phaser Spinal Lance shown the specs for its use in Seperated mode? Like false advertising.
I actually figured they'd put in a Fleet Dread where it gets Seperation Originally. Same stats but now can seperate.
How long? You mean like how theyll give the Dread saucer Seperation soon? lol
How many months has the Phaser Spinal Lance shown the specs for its use in Seperated mode? Like false advertising.
I actually figured they'd put in a Fleet Dread where it gets Seperation Originally. Same stats but now can seperate.
How does Dreadnought Saucer separation even make sense? Isn't the third nacelle only there to power the phaser lance?
So it would be pointless to allow the lance on the saucer section to separate from the third nacelle that powers it.
Theres the discription IN GAME when selecting Phaser Spinal Lance. It changes what the weapon does but cleary says "When Saucer is Sperated" etc.
And that discriptions been in the game for months far as I recall. So, don't count on anything. They may have washed there hands on ships they already made their money on was my point I guess. I really want to get into a Fleet ship. But when I count the Money already spent on C Store Ships and only 1 of them has a fleet version, I feel...annoyed.
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If I ask you a question it is not an insult but a genuine attempt to understand why.
When I insult you I won't be discreet about it, I will be precise and to the point stupid.
Yeah, I'm pretty sour about this one.
The phase console on the Kar'fi makes you temporarily invulnerable to damage, but you can't launch fighters while phased nor fire torpedoes. If I remember correctly, you can still fire energy weapons.. but don't quote me on that.
OK so there is no fleet version of the Gal-X either right?
Yes, the siege mode/ javelin is an inbuilt ability that doesn't utilize a console. The technical issues porting the Garamba without console were cited by Gecko as reasons for not doing so when he was interviewed recently.
Some reasons for other ships not making the cut included the gorn vessels described as all looking the same and the highest tier orion vessel apparently looked too much like a potato (It reminded me of a ship from David Lynch's Dune).
Correct, there is no fleet version of the Gal-X either.
Well that is fair then.
And really the Kar'Fi, I have it and while Im Disapointed it has no fleet version. Many consider it the best ship in game. A Carrier, With special Pets, And a good Turn Rate, Shield Mod, etc
They prob consider it already +1.
Same goes the the Oddy and Bortas. They arent getting a fleet version, they are already a +1, 10 Console ship. The Oddy and Bortas that unlocks at Tier 5 Shipyard is only 9 Consoles to the C-Stores 10.
Just IMO, but stat wise and loadout makes since to me. Sadly thats all the ships I bought. Guess I bought the right C-Store ships, but doesnt give me much to look forward to in the fleet store.
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Three simple things to do:
Swap the Fleet Vo'quvs tenth console to tac.
Add in a fleet Gorn ship, all looking the same is a great argument for not adding two.
Add in a fleet Kar'fi (preferably with a 3rd eng console), this is JUST a Kar'fi, Skuls and Frigs remain unavailable unless you have a regular Kar'fi.
It's turn rate isn't anything special, granted it is higher than any other two hanger carrier. It has a good shield mod sure, but its hull is kinda weak...only slightly higher than the Armitage, the fleet version of the Armitage I think has better hull than the Kar'fi.
I honestly don't think the pets make up for a console slot and improved stats.
I'm hoping its suffering from the same problem of the Atrox...and that we will see a flet version of the Kar'fi eventually.
The Armitage has a fleet version already.
How many months has the Phaser Spinal Lance shown the specs for its use in Seperated mode? Like false advertising.
I actually figured they'd put in a Fleet Dread where it gets Seperation Originally. Same stats but now can seperate.
So it would be pointless to allow the lance on the saucer section to separate from the third nacelle that powers it.
Theres the discription IN GAME when selecting Phaser Spinal Lance. It changes what the weapon does but cleary says "When Saucer is Sperated" etc.
And that discriptions been in the game for months far as I recall. So, don't count on anything. They may have washed there hands on ships they already made their money on was my point I guess. I really want to get into a Fleet ship. But when I count the Money already spent on C Store Ships and only 1 of them has a fleet version, I feel...annoyed.
Defiant
Dreadnought
Oddysey
Atrox
Marauder
Kar'Fi
Garumba
So 7 ships, and only one of those gets a fleet version. And thats the one I dont even use.
forget the console -_-
9 consoles, crappy hull for a carrier... yes, crappy hull, the fleet somraw raptor has the same hull as the kar'fi
i vote for fleet kar'fi
That's me !