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Aegis Set outclassed
kaeaja
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Just WHY Cryptic? Why have you allowed a hard to make set get outclassed by everything else? Defensively its outclassed by the Reman Set for one.....and the Aegis is supposed to be a defensive set so why?
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I'm a big fan of the AEGIS, and still use it for my non-STF ship (which is to say, my "main" ship as I don't STF often). However, I think it's fair that the AEGIS is "outclassed" by the others.
AEGIS can be made by anyone that cares to level crafting (not hard).
MACO, KHG, and MACO sets (can) take (most people) a very long time to get, through doing STFs over and over and over again.
Even the Reman Mk XII's take a long time to work for. It will take less time when The Vault 5-man gets added to the PvE queue, but still not as easy as crafting a set of AEGIS.
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Because it was added during Season 3 and the other sets are either limited-run items, grinds from STFs, &/or higher MK gear?
It wasn't intended as scaling gear--partly due to the ease of acquiring it.
Purchasing materials off the exchange is a matter of a few matches of PVP or grinding a dozen star cluster sets (while scanning for all components) or some DOFF assignments.
End game STFs are much longer, challenging, and only present a chance of dropping the necessary components to complete their set.
Apart from that, it's supposed to be a levelling set...have you seen people in WoW complain that they can't do endgame raids in heirloom sets?
Blue MkXI Reman is actually worse than Aegis for defensives (though reman is more shieldtanky and Aegis more about your hull from setbonusperspective), and those are the levels to compare.
The opposite would be silly. Who'd do endgame if you could just stroll the to exchange and buy the best gear? And how epic would that be?
"How'd you acquire that awesome gear?"
"Well, I grinded some EC, stepped to the exchange and showed it my determination. A few transactions later, the whole set was mine!"
Dec/2008
The 2-set bonus could be a 50% kinetic resist to the hull that adds up as it takes kinetic damage.
Duration of the built-up damage should be 1 minute.
That would make it a truly kickass set. No offensive potential at all but -THE- best defensive set there is.
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I'm still trying to catch the Vault shuttle event so I can get enough Reman Datalogs to craft my first reman set.. not counting what I need to grind to make the next two sets higher.
The crafting is far easier than grinding Vault missions in order to make a Reman Set.
and STF is random luck to get the Omega or MACO set.. I'm trying to get the Omega set.. 265 STF elites and only have gotten the MK XII Deflector for the Omega set.
So which is harder.. go to exchange and buy mats and craft the Aegis set or grind hundreds of missions in order to manufacture / luck out on a set?
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grinding the vault is the hardest imho.
And then you look up all the Sets and see:
1 Episode Mission and 15 EDCs net you a better "set"
Add 15/35 EDCs (or lucky drop) for Maco Shield X/XI if you prefer
Quite disappointing
I do agree though, that it would be nice if the Aegis set got an update. Maybe faster warp function would make it more worth using..
Yes technically its the only set that does not require much to get, but it was supposed to be based on Undine tech, so why not make it better and put it in the edc store with the borg set..
Um.. Apparently you don't do STF's
20 Ecrypted Data Chips for 1 MK X MACO or Omega item = 30 Elite missions or 60 normal missions to get either the MACO or Omega set MK X
40 Encrypted Data Chips for 1 MK XI MACO or Omega item = 60 Elite Missions or 120 normal missions for a full MACO or Omega set Mk XI
Random number of missions in each of the 3 Elite space STF's in order to get the Prototype drop for shield, engine, or deflector and even then only 1 type drops in a specific mission, thus making it very difficult to obtain and in many many cases requires lots of grinding of 1 specific STF mission in order to get that certain drop.
Now the Borg set is only 5 EDC for each piece sans the universal console mission reward = 16 normal missions or 9 elite missions, but the Borg set is not as good as the Aegis set IMHO.
Now the Reman set requires grinding at certain times that the Vault event is available and requires lots of grinding to get a full set and then grind upgrade it and then grind upgrade it again.
The issue is this.. Aegis set is equivalent to Mk X purple, so should not be as good as Purple MK XI and MK XII MACO, Omega, Breen, Jem 'Hadar or Reman sets.. they should be on par with the Borg set, the MK X MACO, MK X Omega, MK X Breen, MK X Jem 'Hadar and MK X Reman sets (Though in most cases the Aegis is equivalent or better in this range and a match for most MK XI sets as well).
Jem "Hadar and Breen sets can only reach MK XI level so should not be as good as the Omega and MACO MK XII sets but slightly better than the Aegis set (though in actuality the Aegis is much better), however the MK XII Reman set should be equivalent to the MK XII MACO and Omega sets due to the massive amount of grind needed to obtain them and as such better than the Aegis set.
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Even worse, also totally outdated and obsolete are:
- Very Rare Shield Array
- Very Rare Covariant Shield Array
- Very Rare Regenerate Shield Array
- Very Rare Resilient Shield Array
- Very Rare Impulse Engine
- Very Rare Combat Impulse Engine
- Very Rare Hyper-Impulse Engine
And let's not talk about Deflectors. (mostly because I forgot all their variants).All obsolete thanks to sets items that are not just very rare with unique modes often better than what you can normally found on such shields, if you combine items from a set, you get additional powers and benefits!
I am not against set, but I would have expected that they would introduce a balanced choice between very rare, individual items, and set items. Sacrifice a bit of a mod to get a special ability you couldn't otherwise get.
Better gear drops as loot from STFs.
It needs an overhaul, which Cryptic will never do.
You have your info wrong, the borg set is 15 edc plus the episode for the console, Maco and Omega mark XI are 40 edc or the ultra rare drop.
Dec/2008
Fixed it ... kill the terminator ...
I've actually started laying out some set idea's in a document that i'm going to post, and one of those is a "AEGIS 2" set.
Part of the issue is that the borg set is too strong IMHO. It's set bonusus outclass everything else by so much there's not a lot of contest. Especially at 3 peices.