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What's wrong with KAGE and KASE?

dapperdrakedapperdrake Member Posts: 254 Arc User
Because I need deflector I run KASE again and again. And when I got CD I ran KAGE.
I'm really surprise about two things.
At first. Why is it possible to start KASE or KAGE with only 4 players. It is extremely hard and difficult getting optionnals in this conditions. So we have more chance to die much and getting timer. Devs don't think it's not fair for the player?

At second. I'm extremely surprised to notice there is so much leavers and this kind of STF. I never saw so much leavers in others STFs. It's like they really don't care getting 1hour of penality. So I don't think they are kids. I think there is many kind of people because I ran KASE in different time of day. GMT +2, at the morning, at the after noon, at the evening and one at night. I would like devs find a good solution about this.
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  • mrkollinsmrkollins Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Are you kidding right? the most easy stf are KASE and KAGE, check some guides dude
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  • thoroonthoroon Member Posts: 409 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    I would like devs find a good solution about this.

    Devs can't help with stupid players, they can only penalize (which they do).

    Since you go KASE mainly for the deflector, let me asure you, there is no need for optionals (except for some EC making). Specific Proto Tech can only drop for players at the end of an STF in your personal lootbag.

    Games don't start with 4 players, it's either huge waittimes (which hardly occure) or players getting disconnected (or doing it themselves) during loadscreen and having hanging characters.

    And ya, leavers are annoying, I put them on ignore just for this, especially when they start ranting how great they are and how bad the rest is. But you can hardly do more against it, it's the price you have to pay for F2P.
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  • dapperdrakedapperdrake Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    mrkollins wrote: »
    Are you kidding right? the most easy stf are KASE and KAGE, check some guides dude

    Running at the start to the end KASE or KAGE with only 4 players is not easy. Do it before say something, dude!

    thoroon wrote: »
    Devs can't help with stupid players, they can only penalize (which they do).

    Since you go KASE mainly for the deflector, let me asure you, there is no need for optionals (except for some EC making). Specific Proto Tech can only drop for players at the end of an STF in your personal lootbag.

    Games don't start with 4 players, it's either huge waittimes (which hardly occure) or players getting disconnected (or doing it themselves) during loadscreen and having hanging characters.

    And ya, leavers are annoying, I put them on ignore just for this, especially when they start ranting how great they are and how bad the rest is. But you can hardly do more against it, it's the price you have to pay for F2P.

    Dear Thoroon. Did you notice I'm not F2P? :)
    I am able to understand about disconnection problems. But the system is broken because it can't give another player. I mean We start with 5 players. One is disconnected. So then 4 players have to end up the stf. It's not fair.
  • graham6411graham6411 Member Posts: 38 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    KA and KA ground are the easiest STF's I have run KAGE with 4 people lots of times and still managed to complete the objectives, also done KASE with 3 people once due to good team work and buffing and debuffing when needed
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  • alexraptorralexraptorr Member Posts: 1,192 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Ive completed KAGE with only a team of 3, two leaving because they got huffy about the newbies.
    Sure its no optional, but definitely compleatable. :cool:
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  • thoroonthoroon Member Posts: 409 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Dear Thoroon. Did you notice I'm not F2P? :)

    Did you notice you play a F2P Game now?
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  • mandrake45mandrake45 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Before they moved the timer start, the KA Ground optional was quite achievable on Elite with 3 players. The run itself is still easily completable, I'm pretty sure Normal can be done with 2.

    As to KA Space, 4 shouldn't be a problem as long as you've got gate guards, it'll just take a little longer.

    As to the quitting thing, it happens on all the STFs. The one it impacts most tends to be Cure Ground if it happens prior to finishing the turrets/forcefield sections.
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  • mrkollinsmrkollins Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Running at the start to the end KASE or KAGE with only 4 players is not easy. Do it before say something, dude!

    Oh the noobs, i can do KASE or KAGE with only other guy, just that easy
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  • travelingmastertravelingmaster Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    reyan01 wrote: »
    No comment regarding how easy KA is, but I will say - the drop rates remain pretty useless. I've been aiming to obtain a mkXI deflector drop on KA normal, but it seems the only way I'm going to obtain said deflector is via EDC's - seldom ever see rare drops, let alone prototype ones.

    You're only going to get prototype from Elites. Rare salvage and the like is available, as well, though you're only really supposed to do Elites in order to get prototype. If anyone's trying to do Elites without a full brace of Mk XI anti-Borg and the Borg set, then they're 'doing it wrong'. Elites aren't for lightweights. . .but lightweights still think they're qualified anyways.

    The Borg in the elite STFs are the hardest Borg in the game, from my experience, with spheres that have 150k+ health. That ought to tell even incompetent noobs something.
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  • abcde123123abcde123123 Member Posts: 342 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Gotta say, thou it's far fetched as it is, but doing only one STF forever doesn't increase your drop chances.

    so if you wanna get pretty deflector then run CSE and ISE too. seems to be better that way.

    But i doubt I'm gonna come up with any kind of scientific proof for that, just been my experience playing and watching other players.

    May be there is an increased drop chance for your first 10 STFs, and then they get lower lower till you reach 100 of each. But most likely it's just observation factor... after doing 20 of them you just stop counting...
  • bones1970bones1970 Member Posts: 953 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Running at the start to the end KASE or KAGE with only 4 players is not easy. Do it before say something, dude!
    LOL, KAGE is posible with only 2 men (or women), and yes its done before.
    If you think its hard you do something very wrong or don't have the corect kits/weapons.
    KASE, you need 3 that knows what to do, anymore only saves time.
  • tvlartvlar Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    :)

    Have heard from a friend of a friend of a friend, that KAGE has been done by a lone player.

    Was a very fast running Klingon, though...

    :)
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  • ankokunekoankokuneko Member Posts: 318 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    mk xi anti borg gear isnt necessary for elites, I can do space with white mk x just fine, and ground with generic mk xi (ground needs pbkb shields and pulsewave with kb3 modifiers though)
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  • rdm1958rdm1958 Member Posts: 822 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    i never do normal stfs anymore only elite. i am often surprised at the difficulty people have in getting level 12 items. i have had both omega and maco 12 sets for some time. they are not that great. the only thing really worth having is the maco 12 shield to go with 3 piece borg set imho. is it just luck, time of day or what on getting the good drops?

    however getting your hands on the level 12 personal shields in infected ground elite is a different matter. i only make it through that mission half the time with so many people quitting. okay, i'm not a great jumper either, but i keep practicing.
  • zektorilzektoril Member Posts: 27 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    Gotta say, thou it's far fetched as it is, but doing only one STF forever doesn't increase your drop chances.

    so if you wanna get pretty deflector then run CSE and ISE too. seems to be better that way.

    But i doubt I'm gonna come up with any kind of scientific proof for that, just been my experience playing and watching other players.

    May be there is an increased drop chance for your first 10 STFs, and then they get lower lower till you reach 100 of each. But most likely it's just observation factor... after doing 20 of them you just stop counting...

    not sure if your aware of it but the deflector only drops in KA space. so if your after MK XII you have to do KASE, but if your after MK XI, just run 20 elites and buy it with EDC. though IMO you should just rock the 3/4 assimilated set with a MACO or HG shield. and then just get the ground sets for the uniforms.
  • sdkraustsdkraust Member Posts: 524 Arc User
    edited July 2012
    You've got to be pretty bad to fail KASE. Even a team of Rainbow Boats knows not to let the ships into the portal.

    KAGE is so easy the first time I did any ground STF was KAGE, I didn't die once and we got the Optional (With no communication at all). I had no idea what was going on.
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