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Why does everyone assume Crytpic as we knew it still exists?

corneliussigmacorneliussigma Member Posts: 15 Arc User
And has any power to affect anything Perfect World says or does?

While partly trying to be smart alec here, I am actually really curious if there is some legal statement somewhere folks know about that I don't saying the group formerly knows as Cryptic still exists as it was and has it's own overriding power over anything other than the microwave in the break room? If that..

If such a thing does exist I will, in fact, read it, admit I was totally wrong and go back to my own business. :biggrin:

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  • darkstarkiriandarkstarkirian Member Posts: 1 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    the Studio Formerly Known as Cryptic.
    *queues Prince - Nikki*
    COME BACK NIKKI COME BACK!
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    Registered: Oct/2009 , LTS : Feb/2011
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    Three years and still no Captain Klaa hair...
  • shotwhointhewhatshotwhointhewhat Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Welcome to PWE. May God have mercy on your soul.
  • alaris3alaris3 Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    A valid point.

    However, the reason a lot of people still believe this is that there are several employees FROM Cryptic that still work on Star Trek Online (Dan Stahl, etc), and this creates the 'illusion' for most people, that the game is still being created by them.
  • corneliussigmacorneliussigma Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    Welcome to PWE. May God have mercy on your soul.

    I have been around since Beta. :tongue:

    And I lost my soul long ago, but good looking out none the less :biggrin:

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  • centersolacecentersolace Member Posts: 11,178 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    An interesting though, and a provoking question, I would be curious to see the answer.
  • sovereignmansovereignman Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    It's like any other game development studio isn't it?

    People still bought COD:MW3 despite the hubub behind the scenes. And no that's not an endorsement of it or EA :)

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  • kimmerakimmera Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    They assume it because they see STO's start, when it had all its initial start up funding and funds from the initial LTS and monthly subs as something separate from today, when that money is pretty much gone and there are a lot fewer resources to work with.

    As far as Cryptic as an independent entity, it created CoX, but then sold it to NCSoft. The Dev team for CoX went with the deal.

    It developed Champions, but was sold to Atari less than a year after Champions was released.

    And then was sold to PWE appox. a year after releasing STO (which would have been after all that initial development money was gone and the majority of LTS's were already sold).

    Cryptic has never been an independent entity during STO other than for a bit during development.
  • leviathan99#2867 leviathan99 Member Posts: 7,747 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    If you think it doesn't exist, then the studio that you thought existed probably never existed or certainly didn't exist under Atari either.

    Cryptic is a wholly owned subsidiary of Perfect World and was previously a wholly owned subsidiary of Atari and was previously in large measure Jack Emmert and Hindol Datta's company. Emmert is still here. He's just driving a nicer car and travelling to global meetings with PWE execs now.

    I think some people may have made assumptions about their level of independence BEFORE. It's not really any more or less.

    The marketing team is the big difference and the ones most closely associated with Cryptic just work for PWE on Cryptic games.

    In terms of the cash shop, Cryptic has actually always sent its cash shop money to its parent companies and then argue for reinvestment. It's a bit more transparent, maybe, with ZEN.

    But it might actually be a bit better, on the whole. Because the old bookkeeping method, as I've pieced it together, was that when you buy Cryptic Points (or Atari Tokens), the parent company had your money. They made their money. Then when you spent that money on the C-Store, the parent company would go, "Hm. Maybe we should take some of our money and put it into Cryptic produced games." That's the ideal, anyway.

    By having ZEN and C-Points separate (or at least a tally of your currency by game), you don't have to spend the points for PWE to consider reinvesting.

    To be clear, as I understand how it is and has always been:

    Parent company pays employees at Cryptic to make a product.
    People spend money. ALL the money goes to the parent company. Always has.
    Parent company looks at spending of points to determine whether to reinvest or cut back.

    For awhile, Atari wasn't doing that third step. But your Cryptic Points were never in Cryptic's pocket, as I understand it, aside from maybe determining bonuses and ideally making a case for reinvestment.
  • corneliussigmacorneliussigma Member Posts: 15 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    stoleviathan99 the winnar of the day (to this point)

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  • sovereignmansovereignman Member Posts: 0 Arc User
    edited June 2012
    I agree. stoleviathan99 wins the internet.

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