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Heretic: Renown DOFF's Need Locking Down
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Hey Heretic.
You know those doff crushers? The 4 on SFA that let you "Re-assign" doff's to get one that's a rank higher?
They automatically lock out any of the DOFF's you buy from Lt Ferra but none of the DOFF's from Renown missions.
Considering that you get one and only chance at earning these doffs can you please look into locking them out of the list the same way the store doffs are?
Thanks.
You know those doff crushers? The 4 on SFA that let you "Re-assign" doff's to get one that's a rank higher?
They automatically lock out any of the DOFF's you buy from Lt Ferra but none of the DOFF's from Renown missions.
Considering that you get one and only chance at earning these doffs can you please look into locking them out of the list the same way the store doffs are?
Thanks.
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*okay maybe a little icon or something to indicate a unique one shot doff like the blue renowns or other chain doffs like Gul what's his face. But what we do with them should be ours to decide :cool:
On the one hand, I dislike preventing people from options if it isn't potentially exploitive, but on the other, I understand the issues of accidently recycling a duty officer that is non-recoverable.
However, I do think it would be pretty sweet if we had a way to recycle purples we don't want/like. Right now I dump mine in the officer exchanges for cardassians/etc. Perhaps a way to trade a purple and some dilithium for a new random pack would be a good idea?
I think we should be able to turn in spare Support DOFF's for random non-unique purples, but that might fall under the exploitation category.
I think the Renown DOFF's should probably be bound, since unlike Support DOFF's you can't get another one. Sometimes the UI assigns a DO I click on without clicking the assignment button, so it's very easy to slot in a Recommended officer you didn't intend to.
Or else tweak the recommended officer bit so it doesn't automatically recommend a Renown DOFF, but that's bad in a different way.
The way I see it there are two maybe 3 options.
Option 1: Lock the Renown Doffs so you cannot spend them.
Option 2: Make Renown missions repeatable. If you spend the doff then you can redo the mission to get it again.
Option 3: Put some easily recognizable marker on each of those doffs so don't accidentally spend them but can if you really want too.
I don't see how the Renown mission Doff is any different from any other Blue Doff that you get from various methods. Even though you can't get THAT doff, you can get equivilents. If you dislike it enough to crunch it for the chance at a purple, that's your call. If its your baby and you don't want to take that chance, don't put it in the hopper.
Or assign it to your crew, make it bound, then you can use it anymore.
Seeing the bound lock at assignment time would be handy... I was specifically looking to do an Exchange of a Bound green the other day since I couldn't crunch him. Back to the list..... ok.. that one... plan the mission... try to find that guy.... hmmm... was it this one or that one? Etc.
I don't know that I would want them locked out, But I really would like some way to know that that particular officer I will never be able to get again (fairly easy for the Rolor and Delta Volanis, as there aren't any other Breen or Deferi Blues, but not for many of the others).
It is different because you can only have one, ever, and if you lose it you can not get another.
Heretic, I think they should be bound.
So? Like there aren't similar guys you can get? It's a duty offficer. Ensign Ricky. If they're that special to you, then you won't accidently try to crunch him or exchange him for someone else. I know that I avoid crunching reknown doffs. It's the same difference.
I know when I start filling up my ranks with purples, an the blues rarely get used any more, I'd like the ability to fire his butt for someone better. Or if I have a shiplaod of purples, but need to start looking for a PARTICULAR job, being able to use even purples to exchange for a chance at the purple you lack would be good.
If they can have an optional-lock/unlock thing, that's one thing... I'm already annoyed that I can't crunch officers that I had on active duty just to "try out" their ability, or when I got a replacement. Removing freedom to protect someone from being careless is always a bad move.
Is it possible to put a lock on a doff, so that you can specify if you want to munch it or not. Sort of like in LoTRO, where you can set some items to locked so you can merch all but the locked items.
Cos I'm darn sure I've munched a couple of the Renowns..
Failing that, either
1, Don't make them munchable,
or
2, If you do munch them, Renown should be available again to re-acquire them.
Please don't punish others because people are too oblivious to watch what they are doing.
It could be unique per type, but I'd settle for just some visual key that states This Doff Is Not Like the Others.
Or, maybe for Renown doffs, the icon can be a middle finger, since if you get rid of it accidentally they'll never ever come back.
Barring that, however, locking the Renown doffs down from being recycled would be better than the way things are at present.
It's something that's bugged me for a while. I would hate to grind one of them by accident when there's no way to get them back.
Now I realise this fact I would be firmly in the bind them camp.
It is all too easy to melt down those blues and pour the mix into the purple mold.
I would also view this proposed change as extremely negative. There is a limit to the duty officer roster, and no gameplay benefit to retaining a blue officer that you have replaced multiple times over with purples from the support mission., It's hard enough to get rid of the greens from Lt. Ferra when you no longer need them without adding fourteen blue officers (that any player who spends time on the DOFF system will outgrow in a month or two) to the do-not-crunch list.
That they are unique is almost entirely irrelevant. The Support DOff for the same cluster is *identical* in all respects except name and color, and on color is strictly superior. Only completionist collectors would even care.
They do have a marker of their uniqueness - they have a quote. This means they're a 'handcrafted' DOff. You can see the quote if you right-click them, so its easily accessible even from the assignment screen for blending. And all blue DOffs with quotes are either Ferra DOffs (and thus not visible) or impossible to get again if you blend them, so if you see a quote while blending *and you care*, don't use them.
So, please don't, but make the removal of doffs more obvious in the mission list, i lost several good ones (including Gul Tain
I wasn't paying attention and sent Gul Tain off to a Cardassian Officer Exchange mission. I didn't realize my mistake till I logged on hours later and the mission had completed. I havn't accepted the reward yet but I'm freaking out about what to do!
I submitted a ticket (#1,331,989) asking for help but I doubt a GM could cancel a doff mission can they?
Maybe the solution is to make the missions that grant these Doff's repeatable but the Doff's unique blocking you from earning a second?
Oy, I dunno but I'm panicking sheeesh!
Would filing a ticket help reclaim at all to the ones I've accidentally gotten rid of?
I'd like to see it be a player-toggleable option.
The only people this would benefit are the completionists who want one of every unique officer, and if you're that sort of player it's really on your own head not to lose said officer. Every other player would suffer for this change.
I mean really, what's the next step? Making renown DOFFS un-dismissable because someone might accidentally delete them?
Provide a way to recover them? sure, why not. (although it would have to be for a steep price to circumvent becoming a grinder exploit)
Provide a way of 'tagging' important ones? absolutely
But locking all players out over what must surely be a minority concern? please no
This way I can lock down whatever DOFFs I don't want to accidentaly lose for whatever reason.