According to the following site who make it their buisness to keep track of such things you can now know the answer!
http://www.mmodata.net/
To speed you on towards your answer, check the 50k-150k area. STO is shown to have under 60K subscribers.
I hope this helps put things into perspective for everyone.
Have a great day:)
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Edit: I don't get why people even care. As long as it s making money and being developed just play and enjoy the game.
They have no official data and Cryptic won't let us know how many subs they have.
For all we know STO can have 600k subscribers.
Disclaimer
Dispite being carefull and doing the necessary research, MMOData.net cannot guarantee the validity of the information found here as it is based on various sources which could be incomplete, inaccurate or otherwise unreliable. Furthermore, all estimates are the opinion of MMOData.net and should be treated as such.
Key word in the last sentence there: "opinion"
You have a good day too. :cool:
From the site:
This means that I will add all official datapoints that I receive from the stakeholders ( Devs, Publishers, ... ) directly. On top of that I will add datapoints that are easily verified ( for example the official Blizzard press releases ).
Also, check the link there titled, MMO and Accuracy List.
I highly doubt a conspiracy exists to supply false numbers.
Even if that were true, I wouldn't believe it based on MMOData.
That site is probably the single most unreliable site on the internet, including uncyclopedia.
Yes, it is a good size of people. And it "feels" right considering the game is selling for 2.99 in some places at less then a year out. I think it's likely very close to the real number, and that's not a bad thing.
Cryptic has neither released numbers nor have they supplied him with any. All that statement says is that he'd use their numbers if they slipped numbers his way.
Truth is: this data isn't even revealed in investor financial reports - meaning you have to trust that the site has some secret insider at every company to get their data. :rolleyes:
occam's razor can't slice through misinformation than thin!
In other words it is at best conjecture. Cryptic does not release this type of information intentionally and probably has a pretty intense security policy regarding this and other similar information. the number of subs can be confirmed only as more than one and less than 6billion.
This topic is not really worth talking about unless Cryptic makes an official announcement.
No, I'm trying to share info. Are you trying to troll? And it's "She" thanks.
I did check their site. STO has a B rating on their accuracy list: Which means that they're saying that the numbers are at least partially coming from legitimate source inside Cryptic/ATARI or are somehow collected from financial documents Cryptic/ATARI releases. That's why I said that I'd trust them when they expose the sources of those data-points.
Plus, I'm sorry to say this, but I've seen my share of falsified number in places more important than a website talking about conjectures. :rolleyes:
Where is the proof they don't supply this information anyplace? I'd be willing to agree fully with you if you can point to it.
Lol! - Everyone who's played MMOs over the last few years knows MMO Data's charts are a figment of their own imagination based on any internet chatter they pick up as NO MMO company publishes hard subscription numbers puclically any more (SOE did a few times in EQs heyday; and NCSoft did for the first year of CoH.)
Yes, MMO Data makes it 'their business' to GUESS the subscription levels of popular MMOs but even teh site owner states he has ZERO hard data on which to base his claims these days. :rolleyes:
A B Rating is good enough for me since I have no delusions that the people who run the list have some vested interest in short changing STO in any way. I'm not that paranoid. So until someone can provide proof that Atari/Cryptic doesn't release this type of information 'at all' I'm content with the number. I"m glad it's not lower.
They don't have any data: even investors at Atari don't have ANY population data.
This means the authors are getting this data from secret lawn gnomes at every company because ????
how can you prove they didn't supply information? There would be no proof cause nothing happened
They didn't get it from official source that's for sure, so they are relying it on various "reliable" sources, estimates, third party sources (steam I guess that very few uses), unclear official sources (I guess StormShades post that only around 10% of the subs uses the forums) and indirect information (players?).
Yea sounds like an extremely accurate list.
Btw the graph for Lineage2, is that worldwide or just NA? If it's just for NA then I can tell you that it's off by over 2 million subscribers.
So according to his description of that level of reliability, if I sent him an email saying that STO had 300K subscribers, and I provided a link to JoeRandomDude's forum thread where he claims that STO has 300K subscribers, then he could say that STO has 300K subscribers, and it would have that same 'B' level of reliability.
Notice the statement on the front of the page? "What I will not do anymore ( for now ) is make estimates..." Know why that's there?
Because it's already been proven in the past that MMO Data's info is just unreliable fakery. Know how they did it? Some guys used the same basic method that I just described.
I agree. As long as the game isn't dying, I am happy
http://www.videogamer.com/news/cryptic_champions_online_is_a_middling_success.html
also from the champions online forum a dev posted
"Most games do not publish these numbers, ever. They are considered super-secret by the industry. Rare exceptions occur, of course."
http://forums.champions-online.com/showpost.php?p=995897&postcount=4
I also know that it has been stated multiple time on this forum that they do not release sub numbers, and the official word from the devs is around 100k subs
I agree, let's end this talk of subscriber numbers and just enjoy the game
StormShade, dstahl and a few other devs has stated several times in the forums that they will not reveal the number of their subscribers. That's more than good enough for me.