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Please add the NPC Gorn/Orion/Nausican ships to the KDF

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First, thanks for the recent T5 KDF ships. That said, the KDF shiplist is still pretty bare compared to the Feds, so why not simply add the existing Gorn/Orion/Nausican ships that are already in game as NPCs to the lower levels? I'm leveling up a new KDF Orion character and it would be nice to have the option to use Orion ships as I'm leveling. Pleeeeeeeeeease? :D
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    This option has been discussed long ago. The Devs said that it wouldn't be easily possible to convert the NPC ships to PC ships. Beside that they should change some errors in the models. The Nausicaan ship just flies wrong.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Hawks wrote: »
    This option has been discussed long ago. The Devs said that it wouldn't be easily possible to convert the NPC ships to PC ships. Beside that they should change some errors in the models. The Nausicaan ship just flies wrong.

    Yes, I actually posted a thread on a similar topic a while back but I decided to start a new one instead of necroing that. I remember their excuse: the NPC models are a low poly version and player ships are poly versions, so it would actually require a new model to be made. I say, fine. Do it. You already have the design, so you dont have to come up with something new. And you also already have the textures. So even if you have to make a new model, its still easier than making a brand new ship.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I agree with The Grand Nagus on this. There should be a "ship path" for each of the non-Klingon races that are a part of the KDF. So a minimum of 5 Orion ships, 1 of each T1 - T5. Same with Gorn, same with each of the other non-Klingon races.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I agree with The Grand Nagus on this. There should be a "ship path" for each of the non-Klingon races that are a part of the KDF. So a minimum of 5 Orion ships, 1 of each T1 - T5. Same with Gorn, same with each of the other non-Klingon races.

    See the last post on the 1st page:

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=153603
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Right. It'd be hard. I get that.

    I'm agreeing with you that this should be put in game Grand Nagus. Whose side are you on, anyway?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    i CAN STAND BESIDE THE nAGUS ON THIS.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Threads like this make me want to bust out either Softimage or 3Dsmax and model them myself. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    i do personally want to see more lower tier gorn/orion/nausicaan ships.

    ideally through tier 2-4 as well but ill take what i can get at the moment.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I agree with The Grand Nagus on this. There should be a "ship path" for each of the non-Klingon races that are a part of the KDF. So a minimum of 5 Orion ships, 1 of each T1 - T5. Same with Gorn, same with each of the other non-Klingon races.

    I could have sworn you said you would like to see the Dev post about this. I guess I'm getting my threads confused :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I am all for this. Just get it on the schedule, even if it's months or a year out. Heck, just give us the "crappy" NPC versions of the ship models until we get real ones!


    At the VERY least, the Klingons should have the option for starter ships (or maybe Lt Cmdr, since they start at Lt 6). Orion, Gorn, Nausicaan, and Klingon frigates would all be cool to see in greater numbers.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Talon battleship!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I couldn't agree more with the threads in this post.I would love to see both more npc orion.gorn, etc npc and playable ships. I would love t be a "true gorn" through my whole career:p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    the Gorn, Orion and Nausican all have 3 different npc ship designs. so the tier 2, tier 3, and tier 4 design are done. just remaster them a bit. the gorn could be a line of science ships, Orion for cruisers and Nausican for escorts, just like the tier 5 ships they introduced. i figure they would mostly be fed ship clones stat wise.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    While the Grand Nagus is a filthy money grubbing Ferengi and thus undeserving of the slightest attention I nevertheless agree with his proposal. It would be most honorable to get the all those lesser species into their own ships so that they stop stinking up my Klingon bridge!

    P'ah!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    As I said in another thread, I think the quality of the NPC KDF allied ships is not so bad.
    Particularly the Gorn Cruiser has some interesting details that make it rather impressive at close range.

    http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7329/screenshot2010080215512.jpg

    http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8468/screenshot2010080215522.jpg

    http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2440/screenshot2010080216042i.jpg

    http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7628/screenshot2010080216042.jpg

    And I say that as someone who did have to get used to this thing for quite a while.:)

    So until they can be updated, I think there will be noone I know of that would complain if they were released in their current state as player ships.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    Add my name to the petition.

    In addition to letting people fly ships that they think look cool, this would be another step toward making the game "more canon-like." The idea of Gorn, Orions and Nausicaans captaining Klingon ships violates my delicate Trekky sensibilities. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    mister_dee wrote:
    As I said in another thread, I think the quality of the NPC KDF allied ships is not so bad.
    Particularly the Gorn Cruiser has some interesting details that make it rather impressive at close range.

    http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/7329/screenshot2010080215512.jpg

    http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8468/screenshot2010080215522.jpg

    http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2440/screenshot2010080216042i.jpg

    http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/7628/screenshot2010080216042.jpg

    And I say that as someone who did have to get used to this thing for quite a while.:)

    So until they can be updated, I think there will be noone I know of that would complain if they were released in their current state as player ships.

    I agree. Even as placeholders, the NPCs we have now would be better than the lack of ship variety we have.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I agree. Even as placeholders, the NPCs we have now would be better than the lack of ship variety we have.

    I suspect that the 'work' actually lies less in the remodeling - given that they do look pretty close in quality to existing player models, especially KDF-side - than figuring out what new gimmicks to add to make them sell in the C-store.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2011
    I suspect that the 'work' actually lies less in the remodeling - given that they do look pretty close in quality to existing player models, especially KDF-side - than figuring out what new gimmicks to add to make them sell in the C-store.

    I want to remain hopeful, and say that they'll add them as normal ships with no C Store cost. Maybe more skins in the C Store, if you want something that looks different from NPC default, but the ships themselves will be free (or cost EC).
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