i realise asymetry is the cornerstone of borg tech applied to starships , but when i rotate my camera to look at the front of any of my ships w/ he borg deflector added it seems the central disk of the borg deflector is not inline with the center of the ship its off to the right a bit , is it supposed to be that way or is this a graphical error?
Personally, I think the new tech (Borg AND Aegis) looks goofy. Just my opinion of course.
In the case of the Borg tech, if a ship came back to Starfleet looking like that it would be taken immediately out of service and the technology analyzed. It's nonsensical that it would remain in service in that condition.
But starfleet/KDf gives you these pieces for your ship in the first place. Its not like you find them laying around in the mission. They are reared to you.
so it stands to reason, this is borg tech that was salvaged and found save to use.
But starfleet/KDf gives you these pieces for your ship in the first place. Its not like you find them laying around in the mission. They are reared to you.
so it stands to reason, this is borg tech that was salvaged and found save to use.
IF we recall from voyager episodes. 7 of 9 added borg technology to the ship to fight against 8472. Due to those reasons the ship obviously was allowed to have borg tech graphed to its hull. Why would it be any different for any other ship. Maybe theres a reason some ships have borg tech, and are still in service? Who knows and really who cares. Its a game and this trek game is soft canon. And hey if you dont like it.. you can easily turn the graphics off
That could make for a cool mission. You have to try and shut down the parts of your ship from assimilating the rest of the ship.
It could actually, but none of the KDF stuff where you run around shooting stuff...maybe a version of the anomly scanning minigame? You have to match radiation wavelengths with the borg technology to disable it, or something else like that combined with blowing some of it up, using consoles (with multiple options, some of which cause bad things to happen) ect...
Of course, the other shows had it too, but never as bad as Voyager. Enterprise also suffered from the same problem. Far too often they just doubletalked their way out of a problem.
If you remember that last ship belonged to Hue's breakaway Borg. The design was suppose to represent the chaos. The Collective brings order to chaos therefore the simple orderly shaped vessels.
I have been away from the game for a while and I was wondering how you get these sets?
You complete the Assimilated mission (either first time or with the new replay feature) for the console and then you get the other devices from the three Borg STFs as mission rewards. You just have to complete each one once.
Of course, the other shows had it too, but never as bad as Voyager. Enterprise also suffered from the same problem. Far too often they just doubletalked their way out of a problem.
Captain Kirk made a cannon out of bamboo and rocks. Captain Picard ordered the Borg to take a nap. DS9 was shameless in their use of technobabble and even had an episode where a dime sized runabout had to save the defiant after being shrunk in some anomally.
Sorry, Voyager and Enterprise is no worse with technobabble than any of the other shows. So it stands to reason that even if Voyager didn't exist, my original comment about the uses of technobabble would still be equally valid.
Again, not sure what Star Trek you were watching...
Captain Kirk made a cannon out of bamboo and rocks. Captain Picard ordered the Borg to take a nap. DS9 was shameless in their use of technobabble and even had an episode where a dime sized runabout had to save the defiant after being shrunk in some anomally.
Sorry, Voyager and Enterprise is no worse with technobabble than any of the other shows. So it stands to reason that even if Voyager didn't exist, my original comment about the uses of technobabble would still be equally valid.
Again, not sure what Star Trek you were watching...
Kirk's cannon was based on REAL science, not technobabble. Picard's situation required some lateral thinking, and didn't use technobabble per se. DS9 had that episode, but it was among the worse episodes. DS9, in fact, was FAR better at having the character's make hard choices to resolve problems (In the Pale Moonlight, anyone?) than most of the other series.
Like I said, it wasn't that it didn't happen elsewhere, there was just far less reliance on it.
Kirk's cannon was based on REAL science, not technobabble. Picard's situation required some lateral thinking, and didn't use technobabble per se. DS9 had that episode, but it was among the worse episodes. DS9, in fact, was FAR better at having the character's make hard choices to resolve problems (In the Pale Moonlight, anyone?) than most of the other series.
Like I said, it wasn't that it didn't happen elsewhere, there was just far less reliance on it.
all sci-fi is based on real science to some degree. REAL science said that Kirk's cannon would have blown up in his face. that's if he managed to make gunpowder that didn't just make a little fire, which is a stretch itself.
Picard gave a command through the collective to put the Borg all into regeneration mode which is what leads to the Destruction of the Borg Cube. True, he himself did not use technobabble but there was Technobabble involved and he could not have done his lateral thinking without it. You're just splitting hairs here.
While i disagree that Voyager was any more guilty of technobabble any any other series, but let's assume you are correct so that we don't have to continue our Nerd measuring contest (we're both equally guilty here ).
The fact is, that Technobabble has been used in every series of star trek ever. Therefore even if Voyager didn't even exist, my comment of using Technobabble to explain the borg part would still be 100% valid. Your comment about it being "another Legacy of Voyager" makes the implication that my point is somehow less valid which because Voyager was the sole offender, which is not true in either case.
So my original point remains, and is valid in all of canon, so there is no point in further arguing in which series did what more.
all sci-fi is based on real science to some degree. REAL science said that Kirk's cannon would have blown up in his face. that's if he managed to make gunpowder that didn't just make a little fire, which is a stretch itself.
all sci-fi is based on real science to some degree. REAL science said that Kirk's cannon would have blown up in his face. that's if he managed to make gunpowder that didn't just make a little fire, which is a stretch itself.
Picard gave a command through the collective to put the Borg all into regeneration mode which is what leads to the Destruction of the Borg Cube. True, he himself did not use technobabble but there was Technobabble involved and he could not have done his lateral thinking without it. You're just splitting hairs here.
While i disagree that Voyager was any more guilty of technobabble any any other series, but let's assume you are correct so that we don't have to continue our Nerd measuring contest (we're both equally guilty here ).
The fact is, that Technobabble has been used in every series of star trek ever. Therefore even if Voyager didn't even exist, my comment of using Technobabble to explain the borg part would still be 100% valid. Your comment about it being "another Legacy of Voyager" makes the implication that my point is somehow less valid which because Voyager was the sole offender, which is not true in either case.
So my original point remains, and is valid in all of canon, so there is no point in further arguing in which series did what more.
Respectfully, I don't consider it a nerd-measuring contest (though I'm not sure if we can actually win that, and if indeed we would want to...). My comment was meant to reflect that I think Voyager was worse for the technobabble solutions than any other series, with the possible exception of Enterprise. Certainly, the others did it from time to time, but not to the extent Voyager did.
I should review all the episodes to see just how accurate my perception is...
As for the Gorn cannon, the basic science is real, though the actual invention isn't. It wasn't technobabble, but it wasn't possible to create, either (unless you possess the awesomeness that is Kirk).
ok fair enough. Still don't think Voyager is the worst offender, but long as we agree that my comment is still valid with or without Voyager, then i am okay with it.
And the nerd measuring thing was more of a joke, i just meant that i didn't want to go back and forth for 20 pages and hog the thread from everyone else while we exchange our differing views. But IF it were a nerd measuring contest, I'd call it a draw (for better or for worse for us )
ok fair enough. Still don't think Voyager is the worst offender, but long as we agree that my comment is still valid with or without Voyager, then i am okay with it.
And the nerd measuring thing was more of a joke, i just meant that i didn't want to go back and forth for 20 pages and hog the thread from everyone else while we exchange our differing views. But IF it were a nerd measuring contest, I'd call it a draw (for better or for worse for us )
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In the case of the Borg tech, if a ship came back to Starfleet looking like that it would be taken immediately out of service and the technology analyzed. It's nonsensical that it would remain in service in that condition.
so it stands to reason, this is borg tech that was salvaged and found save to use.
Then it shouldn't be assimilating the ship.
Nothing 2 minutes of technobabble couldn't fix.
Alas, yet another legacy of Voyager.
Just hope it doesn't reestablish a link to the collective and my captain and engineer start assimilating the rest of the crew and ship.
It could actually, but none of the KDF stuff where you run around shooting stuff...maybe a version of the anomly scanning minigame? You have to match radiation wavelengths with the borg technology to disable it, or something else like that combined with blowing some of it up, using consoles (with multiple options, some of which cause bad things to happen) ect...
Could be a winner
which is funny because borg ships are cubes and spheres
And Diamonds and tubes and...oh look, Asymetrical designs
Yea, because no one ever used technobabble in TOS or TNG to solve all their problems :rolleyes:
We must be watching different versions of star trek... Does yours involve a lightsaber, Or perhaps a temporal cold war?
As if the other series didn't ha -
Dammit... someone beat me to it.
Of course, the other shows had it too, but never as bad as Voyager. Enterprise also suffered from the same problem. Far too often they just doubletalked their way out of a problem.
If you remember that last ship belonged to Hue's breakaway Borg. The design was suppose to represent the chaos. The Collective brings order to chaos therefore the simple orderly shaped vessels.
You complete the Assimilated mission (either first time or with the new replay feature) for the console and then you get the other devices from the three Borg STFs as mission rewards. You just have to complete each one once.
Captain Kirk made a cannon out of bamboo and rocks. Captain Picard ordered the Borg to take a nap. DS9 was shameless in their use of technobabble and even had an episode where a dime sized runabout had to save the defiant after being shrunk in some anomally.
Sorry, Voyager and Enterprise is no worse with technobabble than any of the other shows. So it stands to reason that even if Voyager didn't exist, my original comment about the uses of technobabble would still be equally valid.
Again, not sure what Star Trek you were watching...
Kirk's cannon was based on REAL science, not technobabble. Picard's situation required some lateral thinking, and didn't use technobabble per se. DS9 had that episode, but it was among the worse episodes. DS9, in fact, was FAR better at having the character's make hard choices to resolve problems (In the Pale Moonlight, anyone?) than most of the other series.
Like I said, it wasn't that it didn't happen elsewhere, there was just far less reliance on it.
all sci-fi is based on real science to some degree. REAL science said that Kirk's cannon would have blown up in his face. that's if he managed to make gunpowder that didn't just make a little fire, which is a stretch itself.
Picard gave a command through the collective to put the Borg all into regeneration mode which is what leads to the Destruction of the Borg Cube. True, he himself did not use technobabble but there was Technobabble involved and he could not have done his lateral thinking without it. You're just splitting hairs here.
While i disagree that Voyager was any more guilty of technobabble any any other series, but let's assume you are correct so that we don't have to continue our Nerd measuring contest (we're both equally guilty here
The fact is, that Technobabble has been used in every series of star trek ever. Therefore even if Voyager didn't even exist, my comment of using Technobabble to explain the borg part would still be 100% valid. Your comment about it being "another Legacy of Voyager" makes the implication that my point is somehow less valid which because Voyager was the sole offender, which is not true in either case.
So my original point remains, and is valid in all of canon, so there is no point in further arguing in which series did what more.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OclaRDU0fNg
Myth was already busted
Respectfully, I don't consider it a nerd-measuring contest (though I'm not sure if we can actually win that, and if indeed we would want to...). My comment was meant to reflect that I think Voyager was worse for the technobabble solutions than any other series, with the possible exception of Enterprise. Certainly, the others did it from time to time, but not to the extent Voyager did.
I should review all the episodes to see just how accurate my perception is...
As for the Gorn cannon, the basic science is real, though the actual invention isn't. It wasn't technobabble, but it wasn't possible to create, either (unless you possess the awesomeness that is Kirk).
And the nerd measuring thing was more of a joke, i just meant that i didn't want to go back and forth for 20 pages and hog the thread from everyone else while we exchange our differing views. But IF it were a nerd measuring contest, I'd call it a draw (for better or for worse for us
Quite so, I didn't intend a threadjack.