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Guramba Siege Destroyer

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So Cryptic..

I just bought this ship, and I must say..

It is pure awesomeness.. Did some missions yesterday, and nothing in STO beats the "feel" when you approach a Cube and at 15k switch to siegemode, and at 10k, drop to 1/4 impulse.. Fill up the Javelin and at 5k hit Tractor and drop that Javelin on it.. I even like the slow feel of the ship in siegemode.

9/10 from me, and it would have been a full 10/10 if the Aegis shield didnt lack the tron look on the "jaw" on the left side.

Wicked looking ship indeed.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    after being fairly annoyed with the 'whole cant get it in game' thing unlike the gorn and orion ships i eventually decided to buy it as i really liked the look, and i have to say its a cracking ship. ive not really given it a spin in pvp to see how it fares but it looks good and its fun, so im at least pleased it was money well spent.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    after being fairly annoyed with the 'whole cant get it in game' thing unlike the gorn and orion ships i eventually decided to buy it as i really liked the look, and i have to say its a cracking ship. ive not really given it a spin in pvp to see how it fares but it looks good and its fun, so im at least pleased it was money well spent.

    The hillarious thing about it is how some Klingon players say it "sucks"

    Well, its equal to a Fed escort, except it have a little "bonus" power.. So are these people suddenly saying Fed escorts suck as well, or are the Klingon ships (Raptor+BOP) just better than Fed escorts?

    As for PvP, the Guramba will probably be a prime target unless you take MES1, luckily the additional Ensign Engineering will make it more survivable than the Raptor :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    The hillarious thing about it is how some Klingon players say it "sucks"

    Well, its equal to a Fed escort, except it have a little "bonus" power.. So are these people suddenly saying Fed escorts suck as well, or are the Klingon ships (Raptor+BOP) just better than Fed escorts?

    This depends on whether you view the lance as a pointless gimmick or not. If you go with pointless gimmick, the Guramba is just a bad fleet escort (only 2 eng consoles).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    mancom wrote:
    This depends on whether you view the lance as a pointless gimmick or not. If you go with pointless gimmick, the Guramba is just a bad fleet escort (only 2 eng consoles).

    Well.. 1 Eng console isnt a HUGE handicap anyways.. Woulda been worse if it had been 1 less Tac console.

    And, the Javelin is nice enough (I consistently did 12-40k damage shots with it, and the hitrate is superior to the Gal-X lance (which misses a lot IMO)).. Just cant expect to use it everytime, against every target.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    The Destroyer doesn't suck, it is pretty close to being balanced, but does fall slightly under where it should be.

    It has 2 main gameplay issues, in my opinion:

    1. The turn rate reduction for siege mode is too much. It should reduce turn rate less, but include a self snare to slow movement. And possibly a resist buff to make up for loss of defense. Keep the feel, but with a higher turn rate that goes better the directional limited weaponry DPS ships use.

    2. The Javelin needs a bit more love. Using it costs you DPS unless you hit multiple targets. Looks cool. Puts up a pretty number. But overall, not really worth using beyond that. Wouldn't take much to fix this, a reduction of the activation time. This would also help with PvP, where 3s makes it way too easy to get out of the arc.

    Beyond that, I think the -weapon power proc might potentially be overpowered in PvE. My build can shut off and keep off energy weapon fire from my target most of the time. Now, my build isn't the norm, but if I can do it solo, then two normal builds teamed...well, it neuters the energy damage from big boss ships very easily, no need to time things, just shoot.

    And from a quality of life standpoint, I wouldn't mind if the Javelin could be something other than disruptors.
    Well.. 1 Eng console isnt a HUGE handicap anyways.. Woulda been worse if it had been 1 less Tac console.

    Yeah, much of it is sort of nullified in siege mode as well. In Siege Mode, we get +5 extra weapon power over what a raptor has (+10 to weapon power, +5 engine power coupled with +10 weapon power, -5 engine power). But the Raptor has the additional console, in which it can put a +7 weapon power console, full time. So we get slightly less power, no choice but the power, and only get it some of the time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    mancom wrote:
    This depends on whether you view the lance as a pointless gimmick or not. If you go with pointless gimmick, the Guramba is just a bad fleet escort (only 2 eng consoles).

    I do consider the Javelin a pointless gimmick. But I don't consider Siege Mode to be about the Javelin. I spend much of my time in Siege Mode in PvE. I only use the Javelin occasionally because it looks cool. I'm not even spec'd in disruptors :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I have niether praise or curses for the Siege Destroyer, though I did find I was unable to complete the Traelius satelite mission in EESB without failing. <ore to my being an unskilled tactical in theis vessel than anything else.

    Its a fine ship for those looking for something different to fly and can be very deadly in the right hands, but I still love my BoP.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I would agree that the Guramba ship is pretty nice. However, I refuse to pay for a ship in a game based upon ships when I am paying a subscription fee to play and supprot the game already. More content made unavailable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    Gruug wrote: »
    I would agree that the Guramba ship is pretty nice. However, I refuse to pay for a ship in a game based upon ships when I am paying a subscription fee to play and supprot the game already. More content made unavailable.

    Lets not turn this into another flame thread about the ship if you want to do that post on the other 10 plz.

    To get back to the thread I love the ship I think it is balanced, I think why people are having problems with it is because they fly a bop. If you fly a raptor this is a great upgrade.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    As this is a cstore thread discussing a cstore ship. Does it not therefore belong in the CStore section?

    Consistency guys, consistency.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    As this is a cstore thread discussing a cstore ship. Does it not therefore belong in the CStore section?

    Consistency guys, consistency.

    Yup. Let's keep the general discussion forum for discussing things generally available in the game - not the store.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited December 2010
    I woukd buy this ship if it was cheaper and if we could use the ship for kling Capt (Capt lvl). The price is abit to high for me 2000 CP but I wished I could buy that ship and GX too :(.
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