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So you keep putting neat ships in the game, the people who are canon fanatics get mad, the people who wanted them are happy as all everything.

Personally I would love a t5 NX class, I love the looks of it, instead I'm relegated to using it to fly around and or level lts in. I also love the connie.

The canon fanatics (who annoy me to no end) would freak! OMG there is no way that could take a borg cube...(other pointless nuisence rants that disuade dev's from putting ships people want in game at right tiers)

Here's a solution. Put holoemitters for the classics up for sale :-P Don't put them up for sale for GPL or do, but also put them up for sale for emblems or some such so we don't have to deal with dabo if we choose not too.

You make the side that likes the classic ships happy, and what are the canon people going to say? I can't think of anything they could say that would make a resonable sounding argument. I'm sure they'll surprise me, I wouldn't want to ugly up their viewports with people enjoying themselves or anything.

So what do you say devs?

((I should actually have said canon "purists" not fanatics apologies)
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    as a cannon fanatic, I actually like these ships :) all my ships have cannon ship names and registries plus a 9 at the begging of each one lol thanks allot for that one Cryptic. Now I wish Cryptic would have a place where we could upload our own screenies :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    as a canon fanatic i would like to point out that holo emmitters that can make a ship appear to be anything are ******** from enterprise and it was a special ship that was a flying holo emitter and a remote control drone from romulus, its not canon, its a load of bilge!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    KhansWrath wrote:
    as a canon fanatic i would like to point out that holo emmitters that can make a ship appear to be anything are ******** from enterprise and it was a special ship that was a flying holo emitter and a remote control drone from romulus, its not canon, its a load of bilge!

    So you'll accept a ship that can turn invisible, and block all it's emissions, but a ship can't disguise itself with holoemitters (which is probably more technically feasible)?

    Oh and I suppose Entrprise making two ships appear out of nowhere beside it in TNG to scare off a Romulan ship isn't canon either? If it can make two ships appear beside it, then logic would dictate they could make the hologram appear around the ship making it appear as something else....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    KhansWrath wrote:
    as a canon fanatic i would like to point out that holo emmitters that can make a ship appear to be anything are ******** from enterprise and it was a special ship that was a flying holo emitter and a remote control drone from romulus, its not canon, its a load of bilge!

    I seem to recall Starfleet using holo-emitters on a ship exterior, even in the 24th Century.

    If I recall correctly, it was an episode of Voyager (?) that the crew placed holo-emitters on the exterior of the ship, to create holographic ships which would distract thier target.

    This was the basis for the STO Science Ability "Photonic Fleet".

    If that is true, there is no reason a ship couldn't do the same thing in order to disguise itself to be any ship, be it friendly or enemy for that matter.

    What made the drone in Enterprise unique, is not so much the holographic projection, but rather it's ability to mimic weapon signatures as well, in order to fool an advesary.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    canon or not canon who cares...

    lets get some more holoemitters!

    why not?!?!

    its a good way for people to fly their favorite ships without braking the game balance everytime a new ship or refit is introduced!!!

    the only problem is that they have a 12 minute usage :/

    i personally think holoemitters should be in c-store as welll!

    i dont understand why all you can buy with latinum is holo-emitters.
    considering latinum is the universal currency outside the federation!

    and holo emitters are more liekly to be available through major technology power houses liek the feds, klings and rommies... then over the "black market"
    but that is a discussion for another thread!

    meanwhile: MORE HOLO EMITTERS!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I don't mind the ships from different eras. I personally don't think theres any need to make a roundabout reason for them to be in the game like holoemitters.

    But I will concede that I'm biased. I'm not a fan of holograms on the show or game anyway.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    shizaru wrote:
    I don't mind the ships from different eras. I personally don't think theres any need to make a roundabout reason for them to be in the game like holoemitters.

    But I will concede that I'm biased. I'm not a fan of holograms on the show or game anyway.

    The need is created by canon purist fanatics (yay I just came up with that), who start attacking like rabid dogs the minute anything they think is wrong is suggested for the game. Usually I don't agree with them but I see their point of view (I hate them, and their point of view with a passion though). So in the spirit of getting to see the ship I want to see, when I'm playing. I suggested the holoemitters which have a basis in canon in several of the series's? whatever. Anyway thats why.

    I totally agree with the poster above though if they put these ones in like the NX/connie/vulcan/andorian whatever else in as holoemitters it's best they have no duration on them. Which is why I suggest they be bought with emblems
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I personally have been waiting for the NX class since I saw it on an engineering report a while back. I'll have to get it. what they NEED is the bridge from the NX class and I''ll be set.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    kivrin wrote:
    Here's a solution. Put holoemitters for the classics up for sale :-P Don't put them up for sale for GPL or do, but also put them up for sale for emblems or some such so we don't have to deal with dabo if we choose not too.

    As much as your idea has merit, I would steer away from holo-emitter ships for the ability to fly older vessels. If the Dev's wish to add any new T5 skins to make players happy thats all right by me.
    The only reason I say to not do the "holo" idea is that I imagine the idea of holoprojection as camoflague is hoepfully going to be one of the Upcomming Romulan special abilities on one of their vessels.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Since there are so few 'unhappy canon-nuts' and the 'blessed lovers of fun and wtf ever leads to a good game' are so numerous... I'm just gonna say I personally dislike the idea of a T5 NX class (yep, that's right fans, somehow I think it's wrong for the NX class to out-pace the defiant - go fig) feel free to ignore me

    I am a minority after all ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    kivrin wrote:
    The need is created by canon purist fanatics (yay I just came up with that), who start attacking like rabid dogs the minute anything they think is wrong is suggested for the game. Usually I don't agree with them but I see their point of view (I hate them, and their point of view with a passion though).

    I LOL'd !!!!

    I believe wholeheartedly that the whole point of Star Trek is to spark imagination and creativity, not to adhere to a regimented universe of cannon. (Isn't that what real-life is?) So who are the *real* trekkers, here?

    Tier-5 Constitution

    Live Free or DIE
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    TREKKIES! For the barking bleeding love of god it's trekkies >_<

    And if 'we're' so rabid then how come there have been six different threads posted - some by the same people - on why the NX should be T5 :P while 'we' simply give our opinions only to be called names in just about every thread :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Grig32 wrote: »
    TREKKIES! For the barking bleeding love of god it's trekkies >_<

    And if 'we're' so rabid then how come there have been six different threads posted - some by the same people - on why the NX should be T5 :P while 'we' simply give our opinions only to be called names in just about every thread :rolleyes:

    we Trekkies are vein when it comes to our name. I do agree on NOT having a T5 NX class, lets try to keep cannon as possible, and on that note SHRINK THE CONNIE lol she's to big next to an Excelsior Class lol.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Well my 2 cent's worth is More Holo emitters that are a non consumable item. Sell them through C-stor, emblems EC, GPL whatever just make them a permanent item. Give it a cooldown but end this constant GLP/EC sink to get them. I used 1 once. that's it I've not used once since even though I'd love to see my ship as a Jem'Hadar battle ship.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    kivrin wrote:
    So you'll accept a ship that can turn invisible, and block all it's emissions, but a ship can't disguise itself with holoemitters (which is probably more technically feasible)?

    Oh and I suppose Entrprise making two ships appear out of nowhere beside it in TNG to scare off a Romulan ship isn't canon either? If it can make two ships appear beside it, then logic would dictate they could make the hologram appear around the ship making it appear as something else....

    those were two actual klingon ships, not holograms, if it's the same episode we're thinking of.

    imo, there's nothing wrong with respecting the canon, but if people want their special tier 5 nx, then i suppose there's no reason not to.

    just wouldn't see me flying around in one, as even an nx built in the 25th century should still have it's TRIBBLE handed to it by a galaxy class given the limitations of the design and such...

    that's just imo, though.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    kivrin wrote:
    The need is created by canon purist fanatics (yay I just came up with that), who start attacking like rabid dogs the minute anything they think is wrong is suggested for the game. Usually I don't agree with them but I see their point of view (I hate them, and their point of view with a passion though). So in the spirit of getting to see the ship I want to see, when I'm playing. I suggested the holoemitters which have a basis in canon in several of the series's? whatever. Anyway thats why.

    I totally agree with the poster above though if they put these ones in like the NX/connie/vulcan/andorian whatever else in as holoemitters it's best they have no duration on them. Which is why I suggest they be bought with emblems

    Then they might as well just have them as ship skins. It doesn't bother me to see connies and NX's next to soveriegns and excelsiors. But if they were holograms? I'm just not big on that idea. I'm not crazy about fed players using andorian or vulcan ships* but thats probably going to happen anyway.



    *I did however say in a thread on that topic though it would be cool if they were their own subfaction with their own missions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    pr1983 wrote: »
    those were two actual klingon ships, not holograms, if it's the same episode we're thinking of.

    imo, there's nothing wrong with respecting the canon, but if people want their special tier 5 nx, then i suppose there's no reason not to.

    just wouldn't see me flying around in one, as even an nx built in the 25th century should still have it's TRIBBLE handed to it by a galaxy class given the limitations of the design and such...

    that's just imo, though.

    Just for argument's sake, why?

    If an NX-Class hull was built, using Duranium alloy, and the interior was outfitted using the latest bio-nerual circuitry, latest weapons, engines, shields, etc. wouldn't it be just as powerful as a Defiant Class or a Prometheus?

    If the design is sound, and reinforcing is applied to key structural stress points, the NX Class design is a completely feasible starship, and even has advantages over the Defiant in having space for a sickbay, which the Defiant does not.

    It's possible the NX design could be modernised and used to replace the Defiant outright.

    As for the looks, it might change slightly, but you'll notice the Sovereign class variants have nacelles which look very similar to the old NX design, so the l"look" of a brand new NX class, might not change that much. Just the technology contained within.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Grig32 wrote: »
    TREKKIES! For the barking bleeding love of god it's trekkies >_<

    And if 'we're' so rabid then how come there have been six different threads posted - some by the same people - on why the NX should be T5 :P while 'we' simply give our opinions only to be called names in just about every thread :rolleyes:

    You forgot to say "ITS CANON, NOT CANNON!" You'd think that would be easy to get right, but not from this board.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    i didn't compare it to the defiant, though, did i? :p

    also, i wouldn't put it on the level of the prometheus, purely because of the size and power requirements.

    i'm not saying it would be a bad starhip; not at all.

    i just don't see it matching a sovvy, a galaxy or the aforementioned prom.
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