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Fighting flamers with peace.

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I just want to have a counter-thread to all the people who've been flaming lately. I want to say that I think the game is fine and dandy overall, and that the direction the devs have been moving is mostly the right one.

I don't think the Federation needs Carriers, or any more ships with cloaks (with the exception of a T5 Oberth Retrofit w/phase cloak :D:eek: ).

I don't think Escorts need be nerfed, nor Cruisers, nor KDF Carriers.

I think the ways this game needs to be improved are mostly already being worked on. Sector Space is a prime example, I've been to Tribble, I have seen the Galaxy, and I am joyous. I think the KDF need some new ship skins (not new ships, with new boff layouts, new consoles or different hull & shields, merely new skins) for 2nd Tier & 3rd Tier ships, as well as 4th Tier Raptors & BoP. I think we need some new and exciting maps and missions for PvP (which I posted about here). I think the KDF needs more PvE missions, if not to fully level them, then at least enough to make the first half of leveling a Klingon too much to waste by deleting it when you get to the PvP-centric grind later on. I want the Oberth, as I mentioned above, I want the Ambassador, I want a great many things.

But I don't want what we have taken away. I don't want the Federation to become KDF clones, I don't want the uniqueness of each faction lost, or even of each ship type or each career.

So let's hear it for the Devs, eh?

The Devs are wise to have the Forum Guidelines they do, and wise for enforcing them as they do.

The Devs are majorly freaking awesome for responding as quickly and efficiently as they do to queries of all types.

The Devs have made one of the greatest games in the genre, and the best use of the Star Trek IP yet-to-date!

Let's hear it for keeping this game on the same epic track it has been on!
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Katic wrote: »
    I just want to have a counter-thread to all the people who've been flaming lately. I want to say that I think the game is fine and dandy overall, and that the direction the devs have been moving is mostly the right one.

    I don't think the Federation needs Carriers, or any more ships with cloaks (with the exception of a T5 Oberth Retrofit w/phase cloak :D:eek: ).

    I don't think Escorts need be nerfed, nor Cruisers, nor KDF Carriers.

    I think the ways this game needs to be improved are mostly already being worked on. Sector Space is a prime example, I've been to Tribble, I have seen the Galaxy, and I am joyous. I think the KDF need some new ship skins (not new ships, with new boff layouts, new consoles or different hull & shields, merely new skins) for 2nd Tier & 3rd Tier ships, as well as 4th Tier Raptors & BoP. I think we need some new and exciting maps and missions for PvP (which I posted about here). I think the KDF needs more PvE missions, if not to fully level them, then at least enough to make the first half of leveling a Klingon too much to waste by deleting it when you get to the PvP-centric grind later on. I want the Oberth, as I mentioned above, I want the Ambassador, I want a great many things.

    But I don't want what we have taken away. I don't want the Federation to become KDF clones, I don't want the uniqueness of each faction lost, or even of each ship type or each career.

    So let's hear it for the Devs, eh?

    The Devs are wise to have the Forum Guidelines they do, and wise for enforcing them as they do.

    The Devs are majorly freaking awesome for responding as quickly and efficiently as they do to queries of all types.

    The Devs have made one of the greatest games in the genre, and the best use of the Star Trek IP yet-to-date!

    Let's hear it for keeping this game on the same epic track it has been on!

    /signed:cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Agreed save one thing.



    We need a D7 T5 Refit
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Logical.

    Let us wage some serious peace. :cool:

    (Im especially excited about the new Sector Space, we owe the devs a double helping of thanks-very-much for that one)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Saying that everything is balanced like the original poster seems to be stating is ignorant and just foolish. Saying you love absolutely everything about where the game is going is just trying to hard to be non-confrontational. Going out of your way to be unrealistically positive when it's unwarranted and unhelpful is... unhelpful.





    If peace is making false statements and being happy with how everything is no matter what then I want no part of it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I say when life gives your flames, grab marshmallows. Best thing to do is sit back ignore the bait and discuss civilly. Of course we all have our moments of weakness where we can't help but lash back right? *crickets*

    Oh. :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Saying that everything is balanced like the original poster seems to be stating is ignorant and just foolish. Saying you love absolutely everything about where the game is going is just trying to hard to be non-confrontational. Going out of your way to be unrealistically positive when it's unwarranted and unhelpful is... unhelpful.





    If peace is making false statements and being happy with how everything is no matter what then I want no part of it.

    Damnit, I wanted to be the first naysayer :mad:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Capulet wrote: »
    I say when life gives your flames, grab marshmallows. Best thing to do is sit back ignore the bait and discuss civilly. Of course we all have our moments of weakness where we can't help but lash back right? *crickets*

    Oh. :(

    That's pretty much what I'm doing here, lashing back, without lashing back. :p

    And I'm going to ignore baiting posts, and let them get more & more upset until they violate the Forum Guidelines again, and then I'll report them, as is only right & proper. :D

    Read Sun Tzu's "The Art of War" and both this post, and the current game balance will be make perfect sense to you.

    It is tactics, not might, which wins battles.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Saying that everything is balanced like the original poster seems to be stating is ignorant and just foolish. Saying you love absolutely everything about where the game is going is just trying to hard to be non-confrontational. Going out of your way to be unrealistically positive when it's unwarranted and unhelpful is... unhelpful.





    If peace is making false statements and being happy with how everything is no matter what then I want no part of it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sjSHazjrWg
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Realism > Optimism.

    Optimism is another form of censorship of the truth. Some optimisms can be realists but I don't see it too often.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Realism > Optimism.

    Optimism is another form of censorship of the truth. Some optimisms can be realists but I don't see it too often.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5j2F4VcBmeo
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Realism > Optimism.

    Optimism is another form of censorship of the truth. Some optimisms can be realists but I don't see it too often.

    Now if only you lived in reality
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Thinking about it, I realized that perhaps "peace" isn't really the best tactic, this game is, fundamentally, about a war, after all, so allow me to instead help those who seem to think the game is unbalanced, and show them exactly why the game works the way it does.

    The Art of War

    EDIT: had the wrong URL copied, should lead to the book PDF now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3cL1Aofy90

    Optimism mixed with realism?



    Now if only you lived in reality

    You're one of the biggest flamers on these boards. lol :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3cL1Aofy90

    Optimism mixed with realism?

    You're one of the biggest flamers on these boards. lol :rolleyes:

    Strangely I don't in a lot of trouble for it, lol. Maybe I add good points to the flaming arrows?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Strangely I don't in a lot of trouble for it, lol. Maybe I add good points to the flaming arrows?

    Actually, I think it's because you don't insult others, or act like your opinion is fact because-you-say-so. You back your opinions with facts, numbers, & logic.

    And you're willing to acknowledge a well-made counterpoint. That's we love you Cavvy!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3cL1Aofy90

    Optimism mixed with realism?

    My father was a redshirt.:(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I concur, this is the first game I've gotten into and all I can say about the whining is my goodness people, quit or shut up. There is no way in the world most of you would ever be satisfied and to tell the truth, you are not gamers in the true sense, most seem to be "know it all" people and they would not be satisfied if you gave them everything they want.

    GOOD JOB CRYPTIC AND KEEP DOING IT!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Presbytier wrote: »
    My father was a redshirt.:(

    Oh, you poor poor boy.. >hugs<
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Actually, I think it's because you don't insult others, or act like your opinion is fact because-you-say-so. You back your opinions with facts, numbers, & logic.

    And you're willing to acknowledge a well-made counterpoint. That's we love you Cavvy!

    lol? Lets look at his posts in the last hour. You MUST be talking about someone else...


    Cruisers are fine. L2P the other classes properly:
    I see a whole lot of whining from you Para.
    I think you should quit while your behind.
    [/LIST]
    Just go back and edit all your posts so they're empty. :p
    Now if only you lived in reality
    The Klingons don't really have canon since they were never the focus of the series'. This isn't the world of "well they have it so i should have it", and , " If I can't have then nobody can"

    You want a carrier so flipping bad, then play a klingon and earn the ability to do so. At least they have to learn skill and suffer through the ordeal of leveling to get thie unique ship. Your just here whining, and not playing the game. get over yourself.


    Seriously? You think that's listing points and using facts? He used none and there's all those flames in like an hour'ish period. :rolleyes:
    I didn't even skip any posts. There's literally no facts, numbers or logic. Just telling and flaming.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Katic wrote: »
    Actually, I think it's because you don't insult others, or act like your opinion is fact because-you-say-so. You back your opinions with facts, numbers, & logic.

    And you're willing to acknowledge a well-made counterpoint. That's we love you Cavvy!

    Thanks :D
    Presbytier wrote: »
    My father was a redshirt.:(

    Aww... thats horrible. To bad he wasn't TNG era :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    lol? Lets look at his posts in the last hour. You MUST be talking about someone else...














    Seriously? You think that's listing points and using facts? He used none and there's all those flames in like an hour'ish period. :rolleyes:
    I didn't even skip any posts. There's literally no facts, numbers or logic. Just telling and flaming.



    You have to spew flames that get close to a dev, cryptic or a mod to get noticed by the power.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P51Sz7nQBH4
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    lol? Lets look at his posts in the last hour. You MUST be talking about someone else...

    Seriously? You think that's listing points and using facts? He used none and there's all those flames in like an hour'ish period. :rolleyes:
    I didn't even skip any posts. There's literally no facts, numbers or logic. Just telling and flaming.

    You have to spew flames that get close to a dev, cryptic or a mod to get noticed by the power.

    Well, thats not entirely fair, because in all of those threads I had older posts that were full of facts. The one where i told a guy to delete all his posts wasn't a flame. he asked how to close his own thread. It's not possible, so I gave him a way to remove himself from the fray.


    I'm sure i'd be reported more often, or cited by Stormshade more often if i flamed as much as you say.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I didn't see any facts, numbers or logic. Please, direct me.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Well, thats not entirely fair, because in all of those threads I had older posts that were full of facts. The one where i told a guy to delete all his posts wasn't a flame. he asked how to close his own thread. It's not possible, so I gave him a way to remove himself from the fray.


    I'm sure i'd be reported more often, or cited by Stormshade more often if i flamed as much as you say.

    Indeed. I was in most of those threads he quoted you from, so I knew how cherry-picked those examples were.

    Stay Strong girl! \m/ >.<
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Katic wrote: »
    I just want to have a counter-thread to all the people who've been flaming lately. I want to say that I think the game is fine and dandy overall, and that the direction the devs have been moving is mostly the right one.

    I don't think the Federation needs Carriers, or any more ships with cloaks (with the exception of a T5 Oberth Retrofit w/phase cloak :D:eek: ).

    I don't think Escorts need be nerfed, nor Cruisers, nor KDF Carriers.

    I think the ways this game needs to be improved are mostly already being worked on. Sector Space is a prime example, I've been to Tribble, I have seen the Galaxy, and I am joyous. I think the KDF need some new ship skins (not new ships, with new boff layouts, new consoles or different hull & shields, merely new skins) for 2nd Tier & 3rd Tier ships, as well as 4th Tier Raptors & BoP. I think we need some new and exciting maps and missions for PvP (which I posted about here). I think the KDF needs more PvE missions, if not to fully level them, then at least enough to make the first half of leveling a Klingon too much to waste by deleting it when you get to the PvP-centric grind later on. I want the Oberth, as I mentioned above, I want the Ambassador, I want a great many things.

    But I don't want what we have taken away. I don't want the Federation to become KDF clones, I don't want the uniqueness of each faction lost, or even of each ship type or each career.

    So let's hear it for the Devs, eh?

    The Devs are wise to have the Forum Guidelines they do, and wise for enforcing them as they do.

    The Devs are majorly freaking awesome for responding as quickly and efficiently as they do to queries of all types.

    The Devs have made one of the greatest games in the genre, and the best use of the Star Trek IP yet-to-date!

    Let's hear it for keeping this game on the same epic track it has been on!


    Hah someone must've reported you for some slight insult. I've been there!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    There was no cherry picking. lol...


    Seriously, POINT ME OUT TO WHAT I CHERRY PICKED.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I didn't see any facts, numbers or logic. Please, direct me.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zwbSDpROm8&feature=related
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Presbytier wrote: »

    I love that documentary! It explains quite a bit about modern society and pop culture.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    There was no cherry picking. lol...


    Seriously, POINT ME OUT TO WHAT I CHERRY PICKED.

    I may have to start making heinous accusations :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Presbytier wrote: »

    "Do you think we can handle a drunk Vulcan?" Gotta love Bones!
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