Time to stir the pot, because this stirred up my old nogin.
Peregrine Fighters for both Starfleet and Mirror Universe NPCs. Hints of a new ship type for the feddies in the future? You guys going to copy the BoP over? (Please don't, but meh)
Thoughts, comments, long winded rants that go off on different tangents welcome. Hate, vitriol, untempered blind rage please, the PvP forums are that way

EDIT: Storm labeled the new Brel retrofit as a "Klingon Fighter" Hmmmmm
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Maybe Cryptic's capitulating to the constant "fed carrier plz"
hmmmmmm
either that or they are going to say "you got fighters, now shut up about carriers"
Seriously, why do we have 2 of these threads going at the same time with the same title? I feel theres a conspiracy afoot. >:-(
I vote this.
Also remember that the galaxy, soveriegn, akira, nebula and all the current big ships can carry a number of fighters and or shuttles in their massive bays.
Currently the galaxy class extended kit can allow you to build a shuttle bay with 20 shuttles and 2 speed boats. With that said we do not need a carrier, just the ability to add the fighter to our present ships. obviously the smaller your ship the less amount of fighters you can hold. Also one strong thing i recommend. one should be able to have their fighters lauch and return on the click of a button. unlike the klingons we federation types like to keep our officers alive so if we see the shuttle taking much damage we should be able to beam out the shuttle pilots or have the craft return.
from the ep: "cause and effect" on tng it looks as if the main shuttle bay has 4 big shuttles at the front of the door. unfortunatly it is poorly lite so you cant see behind the shuttles clearly my guess is that you can fit in their about 8 to 10 shuttles and then 5 each in the other shuttle bays. this would support the kits claim of 20 shuttles in the ship.
reference to model kit
http://www.starshipmodeler.com/trek/be_bay.htm
A new ship to just to have the ability to lauch fighters is well a waste. craft should be able to launch from our present ships.
I dont. Go ahead.
Also, just because peregrine fighters are in the game doesn't mean there's a carrier, or that theres even thoughts about having fed carriers. The way i see it, its just a fighter mob the feds and MU didnt have before. Why read so much into it?
I know, and I was laughing hard at the post. lol
I'm curious to see if these replace runabouts in NPC mobs or just supplement them.
They aren't that nimble if you look at the various appearances they made in TNG and DS9. Neither the Runabouts nor the Cardassian cruisers had problems with targeting - the latter one-shot-killing them.
Soft canon. Not hard canon. It would also bring the game closer to soft canon by removing all Joined Trill from the game coz a novel says that they don't do that anymore.
I still think we need shuttlecraft in the game... This is my idea about it. Maybe you could exchange the Peregrine for the Runabout. *shrug*
What I meant by that was that the Peregrine fighter is a ship that Starfleet used in the role of attack fighter during the dominion war in DS9 (hard canon) and adding it to the game is a nod to what we saw on screen.
I agree with you that an actual "carrier" ship would be a "soft canon" addition, but the Peregrine fighters themselves are rock solid.
They probably added the Peregrine fighter because Starfleet ALREADY used fighters in the game (runabouts) but they wanted to throw gearheads like me a bone and add a dedicated fighter to the game that was actually in the show.
Doubt it had anything at all to do with prepping Feds for carrier player ships.
I'd personally like to see more 25th century changes and less focus on things from the TNG era. In many ways STO doesn't feel like it's really 30+ years past TNG because so much of the game ignores its own time line advances, IMO.
This is the idea that I really want to see ingame. It really does never seem to pick up with the player base though for some reason.
If the Federation should ever use Carriers, they should use drones, not two-man death traps, though.
seconded, and I'm and advocate for the Akira refit. Whatever fighters the feds get should sting less than the Klink fighters.
True, majority of the big fed ships have pretty big shuttle bays. Devs could make fighter bays as a device or weapons slots for federation ships. Simple send out and return command button. Nothing fancy. Limited 3-4fighters per bay (since a squadron had 3 or 4 fighters in it)?
What ever the devs are going to do now or later it's up to them, besides they got to many things going at once at the moment.
Later.
PS. Why fed. science ship don't get the abiltiy to have drones that can be for offence and defense? Now the KDF have two carriers....
Fang!
Leave the feddies, and join us. You know you want to.
Weird thing about the Akira - it's actually too small to act as a carrier for Peregrines, which are much bigger than runabouts from all the speculative scaling I've seen.
I know Alex Jaeger said it was supposed to be a through-deck carrier, and maybe it is, but it couldn't act as a platform for Peregrine fighter craft.
Good riddance, if you ask me. I absolutely love the style of that ship (and plan to fly her with my new Fed Tactical), but ... really, how much more of a wet dream could you design? This is Star Trek, not BSG or Star Wars. :P
Signed/
I'm a Fed player and I really don't want to see carriers, the Peregrine fighters are great and canon so no complaints there, but I cannot see what use Starfleet would even have for a starship carrier class, fighters for space stations yes but not on starships.
(preparing for backlash over this and numerous insults/reasons for carriers.)
Maybe an Akira retrofit has a Peregrine escort, and that retrofit's special ability is to call in 3-4 pf them for support.
Could extend that to whatever new ship the feds get that would make sense. This way instead of dealing with a dedicated fed "carrier" that spews waves of fighters, you have a simple ship with the ability to call in a single wave of fighters. Helps makes the fed cry-babies a little happier as well as lets the Klingon's keep their individuality of the dedicated carrier.
It's an interesting compromise between the Akira how it was presented in the series/movies and how some fans and Jaeger wanted her to be...
Though I don't think the carrier-complaints will stop. :rolleyes:
If the Peregrine's model has been made and put in the game, then a significant hurdle has been passed in providing Peregrine's for player use, in whatever capacity.
Was there a significant need for Federation and Mirror U NPCs to have these ships that valuable artist time would be allocated to develop an entirely new model? Is it more likely that the Peregrine was internally commissioned for an as of yet unknown purpose, and since the model was available, it could easily be added to the Federation's and Mirror Universe's fleets?
The latter seems more likely to me.
And an Akira Refit Click Power seems quite a reasonable application.
Mind you, I could be wrong. I'm just saying that I would not cling to something that vague.
Ships as small as shuttles or fighters are probably relatively fast to create due to their miniscule size, too. The Hideki-frigate has likely taken more time.