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The Klingons Get New Good Ships Now Its Time For The Feds To Get Carriers

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I was on the tribble server and the klingons got thier new ships coming and one of them gets to fire while cloaked i think it ok for the klingons get thier new ships but its time for the feds to get thier own carriers and i dont think the klingons should complain nore have a problem with that since they are getting new ships soon and at that the feds are going to need a carrier to combat a bird of prey that fires while cloaked and further more it also make the nebula useless cause it wont do nothing by itself cause you need more ships for the detection grid but it wont work if other players scramble than to stick together so there for to be able to combat the new ships the feds need to have carriers and that is a fact and at that it also is cannon cause the feds do have carriers ive seen them in some startrek episodes so dont say that the feds are not military cause they are if they wasny military we wouldnt have a assault crusiers or escorts that can have enough fire power to level a planet so as a fed and a kling i say let the feds have a carrier.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I suspect that, with the addition of the Peregrine-class fighters to the game (check the release notes for the newest Tribble build), the stage is being set for the addition of a Federation SCS (Space Control Ship, i.e. Carrier).

    Just my 2 EC,
    -Big Red
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    TR71777 wrote: »
    I was on the tribble server and the klingons got thier new ships coming and one of them gets to fire while cloaked i think it ok for the klingons get thier new ships but its time for the feds to get thier own carriers and i dont think the klingons should complain nore have a problem with that since they are getting new ships soon and at that the feds are going to need a carrier to combat a bird of prey that fires while cloaked and further more it also make the nebula useless cause it wont do nothing by itself cause you need more ships for the detection grid but it wont work if other players scramble than to stick together so there for to be able to combat the new ships the feds need to have carriers and that is a fact and at that it also is cannon cause the feds do have carriers ive seen them in some startrek episodes so dont say that the feds are not military cause they are if they wasny military we wouldnt have a assault crusiers or escorts that can have enough fire power to level a planet so as a fed and a kling i say let the feds have a carrier.

    I love chicken "pot"pie what is your fav?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    TR71777 wrote: »
    I was on the tribble server and the klingons got thier new ships coming and one of them gets to fire while cloaked i think it ok for the klingons get thier new ships but its time for the feds to get thier own carriers and i dont think the klingons should complain nore have a problem with that since they are getting new ships soon and at that the feds are going to need a carrier to combat a bird of prey that fires while cloaked and further more it also make the nebula useless cause it wont do nothing by itself cause you need more ships for the detection grid but it wont work if other players scramble than to stick together so there for to be able to combat the new ships the feds need to have carriers and that is a fact and at that it also is cannon cause the feds do have carriers ive seen them in some startrek episodes so dont say that the feds are not military cause they are if they wasny military we wouldnt have a assault crusiers or escorts that can have enough fire power to level a planet so as a fed and a kling i say let the feds have a carrier.


    Great Caesar's ghost.
    First.
    Take a moment and please, just... please.... punctuate. Please? At least capitalize something to signify where the general beginning of a senetnce should be. I just... cannae take n'more.
    Second.
    DSthal himself said that they're not gonna give Feds carriers any time soon. It could happen in the future, but it's not on their list. And won't be for a while. They have too many other, better, much more important things to do.
    The devs have definetely heard the community ask for this. They're just not going to give Feddies carriers. Can you just accept that, and accept that they're just not gonna do it, for now? Just, y'know, enjoy what's in the game, and what's coming down the pipes?
    Seriously.
    And for future reference....
    The Federation is not a military force. It's a governing body. Hence, "United Federation of Planets".
    Starfleet, however, is a military force. More or less. It's the military arm of the Federation. It's tasked with keeping the peace, exploring strange new worlds, helping protect Federation worlds and interests, aiding allies, new life, new civilsations.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    The introduction of federation carriers is not "on the radar", if i recall correctly.

    I am rather for introduction of a Souvereign refit with Negh'Var-like turn rate and weapon energy level (but withot cloacking device offcourse).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=3136849&postcount=65
    We've stated this a couple of times in the past. We don't currently have any plans to add a carrier type vessel to Starfleet.

    This doesn't mean that it will never happen, however, right now, it's not something on our radar.

    Thanks,

    Stormshade
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Whoop, my bad, it was Stormshade.
    But, there ya go, OP.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Wow really, First off since launch the federation have had countless new ships added. And now because finally FINALLY the klingons are getting ships your going to ask for a carrier because we are getting new ships.. please...

    Iam sorry Iam just chokeing on this thread.......:rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    ....aw jeeze.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Klingon's get something. Then some Feds whine. Awww well we want this now... Want cheese with that? Just because one side gets something DOSENT mean the other side HAS to get something. Jeez
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I kinda want to say something really mean but instead ill say this.

    No.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Saavk wrote: »
    Klingon's get something. Then some Feds whine. Awww well we want this now... Want cheese with that? Just because one side gets something DOSENT mean the other side HAS to get something. Jeez

    Thats kinda the argument the KDF has been using since launch actually, It's only just started paying off in a large-ish way. So going by that logic feds might get some shiny new carriers about 9 months from now. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    TR71777 wrote: »
    the feds are going to need a carrier to combat a bird of prey that fires while cloaked

    How exactly is a carrier going to help combat a cloaked BoP any differently to a normal Federation Cruiser/Science/Escort?
    TR71777 wrote: »
    cause the feds do have carriers ive seen them in some startrek episodes

    Really? Which episodes are those then? I must have missed them :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Nah, let the klingons keep their carrier, it is kind of their thing for this game and I am fine with that.

    Bring on the Federation Dreadnaught series instead with its own little specialized niche of abilities/features.

    Yea, we have the Gal-X, but that is pretty much it for playable dreadnaughts and you have to go through a decent amount hoops and or cash to even get that one.

    At any rate, just my 2 cents and I am in no major rush.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I care about my crew more than to send them off in cardboard box fighters to die.

    But seriously, as a predominately Fed player, we dont need carriers, neither do we have a powerful need for any 4th class of ship. The 3 classes do everything that is possibly needed in the game at present. Klingons have carriers because the the same capabilities are hybridised across 4 classes in the KDF.

    And its still not enough. Klingons still need more to...i wont say they can or will be up to par with feds in variety, but the gap can be closed further.

    Bloody hell, OP, use punctuation.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    How exactly is a carrier going to help combat a cloaked BoP any differently to a normal Federation Cruiser/Science/Escort?



    Really? Which episodes are those then? I must have missed them :rolleyes:

    I do actually remember a carrier-ish ship in one of the Dominion War DS9 EPs, but if I recall correctly all we see is the Peregrine fighters, and hear someone say something about deploying them. I don't remember the ship carrying them actually getting screen time. I could be wrong about actually seeing one.

    Also, I believe the Akira was intended to be a Carrier of sorts as well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Add a third launchbay to the Vo'Quv.....and you can have a Fed carrier.:cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    GT01 wrote: »
    Great Caesar's ghost.
    First.
    Take a moment and please, just... please.... punctuate. Please? At least capitalize something to signify where the general beginning of a senetnce should be. I just... cannae take n'more.
    Second.
    DSthal himself said that they're not gonna give Feds carriers any time soon. It could happen in the future, but it's not on their list. And won't be for a while. They have too many other, better, much more important things to do.
    The devs have definetely heard the community ask for this. They're just not going to give Feddies carriers. Can you just accept that, and accept that they're just not gonna do it, for now? Just, y'know, enjoy what's in the game, and what's coming down the pipes?
    Seriously.
    And for future reference....
    The Federation is not a military force. It's a governing body. Hence, "United Federation of Planets".
    Starfleet, however, is a military force. More or less. It's the military arm of the Federation. It's tasked with keeping the peace, exploring strange new worlds, helping protect Federation worlds and interests, aiding allies, new life, new civilsations.

    Technically, MACO is the military arm of the Federation. I know they weren't introduced until ENT, but in STO they were active for a long time, and presumably still are active. In the STO Novel "Needs of the Many" about the Undine War, MACO were the ones boarding the Undine ships in EV suits, etc.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    TR71777 wrote: »
    I was on the tribble server and the have klingons got their new ships coming from what I witnessed there (one of them gets to fire while cloaked).

    I think it's okay for the klingons get their new ships, but its time for the Federation to get its own carriers, and I don't think the klingons should complain. They shouldn't have a problem with this since they are getting new ships soon, and the Feds are going to need a carrier to combat a Bird-of-Prey that fires while cloaked. The nebula will be useless here since it wont be able to do anything by itself against the new B'rel since you need more ships for the detection grid to be effective. [random indecypherable gibberish]

    Therefore, to be able to combat the new ships the Feds need to have carriers, and that is a fact. Also it is cannon because the Feds do have carriers. I've seen them in some Star Trek episodes, so don't say that the Feds are not a military power, because they are. If they weren't we wouldn't have an Assault Cruiser or Escorts that have enough firepower to level a planet.

    So, as a Fed and a klingon I say let the Feds have a carrier.

    Well... I didn't quite have a brain hemorrhage there.

    Anyway....

    1. The B'rel decloaks when it fires, it just quickly recloaks.

    2. There are many methods to decloak ships which are available to ALL captains, and some to prevent cloaking (snag one in a tractor beam).

    3. The B'rel is now officially the ship in the game with the weakest hull.

    4. A Carrier is hardly the required response to a cloaked ship. Any Science Vessel will work. Boost AUX, or deploy the appropriate abilities (like CPB).

    5. There were no Carriers in the shows at all. Not on any side, including klingon. We have seen Federation fighters though, but they weren't launched en masse from a carrier.
    Saavk wrote: »
    Klingon's get something. Then some Feds whine. Awww well we want this now... Want cheese with that? Just because one side gets something DOSENT mean the other side HAS to get something. Jeez

    Anyone gets anything everyone else whines. That's how it works. Even when Feds get something Feds whine, and when klingons get something klingons whine. If you aren't used to this by now I have to ask whether or not you're new here... :p

    Welcome to STO. There's an old saying that applies to this place...

    "You can please all of the people none of the time, or you can please some of the people very infrequently, but you can't please all of the people ever."

    Wait... is that how that's supposed to go? Well, regardless of how it's supposed to go, that's how it does go.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Technically, MACO is the military arm of the Federation. I know they weren't introduced until ENT, but in STO they were active for a long time, and presumably still are active. In the STO Novel "Needs of the Many" about the Undine War, MACO were the ones boarding the Undine ships in EV suits, etc.

    TECHNICALLY Starfleet is the Fleet Military Arm of the Federation.

    MACO's are ground assault troops. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    How about when a bunch of us went out and pimped subscriptions to get a Galaxy X, then all the Klingons QQ'd so hard that Cryptic made one of it's biggest mistakes and sold them to everyone "Because it's an MMO and no one is unique"

    (Like Klingons with Battlelcoak and better ships)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I'm all for federation fighter squadrons, like in the dominion war space battles. They'll also be a good replacement for the runabouts when fighting the terran empire


    As for the KDF side issue. It is very simple. You log in, create a character, if you're not satisfied with the content or customization options. log out, create a fed character, and play 70% to 90% with your fed character and enjoy that what you could not have on the KDF side. Be patient and play with your klingon again when your needs have been met.

    or start wining on the forums every day ofcourse:P I chose the first over the latter. That said I wanted to play the Romulan faction or Cardassian faction instead of KDF and Starfleet before I had even bought the game, I have been patient too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    TR71777 wrote: »
    I was on the tribble server and the klingons got thier new ships coming and one of them gets to fire while cloaked i think it ok for the klingons get thier new ships but its time for the feds to get thier own carriers and i dont think the klingons should complain nore have a problem with that since they are getting new ships soon and at that the feds are going to need a carrier to combat a bird of prey that fires while cloaked and further more it also make the nebula useless cause it wont do nothing by itself cause you need more ships for the detection grid but it wont work if other players scramble than to stick together so there for to be able to combat the new ships the feds need to have carriers and that is a fact and at that it also is cannon cause the feds do have carriers ive seen them in some startrek episodes so dont say that the feds are not military cause they are if they wasny military we wouldnt have a assault crusiers or escorts that can have enough fire power to level a planet so as a fed and a kling i say let the feds have a carrier.

    Good God, I do not know what is more disturbing: Your insistent fly like whine that vaguely sounds like "I want a fed carrier waa... I want a fed carrier waa..." or your blatantly, intentional disregard for the English language and your blatant contempt for your readers by refusing to use so much as more then one period. I'd go smack your English teacher for letting this happen, but I am pretty sure she has done her best but has had her hands tied with the whole no child left behind TRIBBLE and keeps on being forced to pass dim wits who refuse to acknowledge simple principles.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    NemoSD wrote:
    I'd go smack your English teacher for letting this happen, but I am pretty sure she has done her best but has had her hands tied with the whole no child left behind TRIBBLE and keeps on being forced to pass dim wits who refuse to acknowledge simple principles.


    A little bit harsh but funny nonetheless. You paint quite a picture lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Jeez dudes ...just tell him to go be a Klingon and get a Carrier.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    NemoSD wrote:
    ...or your blatantly, intentional disregard for the English language and your blatant contempt for your readers by refusing to use so much as more then one period.

    You know what is balls-to-the-walls hysterical? He actually put a period at the end. It's as though he thought capping it off with that would make it a perfectly valid sentence...

    :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    You know what is balls-to-the-walls hysterical? He actually put a period at the end. It's as though he thought capping it off with that would make it a perfectly valid sentence...

    :p

    The one word that comes to mind is....homeschooling.:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Maybe he's just toying with us and is actually writing a best selling novel as we speak
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Quiskota wrote:
    Maybe he's just toying with us and is actually writing a best selling novel as we speak

    Ooo... writing a novel!? That's a lengthy, drawn out task. It would explain why he can't take the time to toss in all those commas and periods...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Not!

    The KDF needs and DESERVES a lot more love from the devs before the UFP should get to feed at the troff again.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    As George Bush once said: 'Is our children learning?' :p

    On the topic, I can agree with the sentiment that it would be nice to see a Fed carrier or something similiar down the road. It only makes sense really, when you look at Star Trek series & movies. You'll see Federation fighter craft a number of times, and Klingon fighter craft zero times. That's not to say that they don't have any, but its always felt a bit odd.

    With that being said, does the Federation need Carriers? No. And do we need them now, because the Klingons are FINALLY getting some new Ships, showing a sign that some day, they might just be able to hold a candle to the Fed's selection? Not remotely.
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