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...It would make me very happy if one class of their ships had 1-2 built-in holo-emitters (such as can be purchased from latinum vendors) INSTEAD OF cloaks. Holo-emitters are basically cosmetic, which would allow some of their ships to skip the cloaks and shift that potential balanced-for-tier effectiveness to weapons, manuverability or what have you (rather than it being tied up in balancing the advantages of a cloak).

Camoflauge rather than cloaks seems like a strategy supported by canon (the mimic seen in Enterprise) and could help break up the monotony of having to put cloaks on virtually anything sporting Romulan green :).
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    The Romulans have been stated as an upcoming faction, but they probably won't be around until sometime next year.

    I want to play them just as badly as you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    NikeOnline wrote: »
    ...It would make me very happy if one class of their ships had 1-2 built-in holo-emitters (such as can be purchased from latinum vendors) INSTEAD OF cloaks. Holo-emitters are basically cosmetic, which would allow some of their ships to skip the cloaks and shift that potential balanced-for-tier effectiveness to weapons, manuverability or what have you (rather than it being tied up in balancing the advantages of a cloak).

    Camoflauge rather than cloaks seems like a strategy supported by canon (the mimic seen in Enterprise) and could help break up the monotony of having to put cloaks on virtually anything sporting Romulan green :).


    Sorry but Romulan Ships never had Holo Emmitters. Furthermore you are not likely to see any Romulan faction for a while. They still haven't fleshed out the Klingon faction to even 1/4 of what the fed faction is, if they introduce Romulans do you REALLY think your going to have much at all to do except fly around in your ship?

    Personally, I hope they do eventually introduce romulans into the game, but not at the expense of polishing current content, and bringing klingons up to speed. Once that is done, I would fully support he addition of a Romulan playable faction.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Danny-boy mentioned a couple months back that he's hoping to see Romulans in the game by the end of next year. He also stated that he plans on fleshing out the Klingons more before we see a third faction go live.

    In short, expect them in a year or so.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    From the latest Ask Cryptic:
    A: We are in fact discussing Romulans and how to get more of their story and faction into the game. We have always talked about the next faction we add to the game being Romulan. This would involve them having their own ships and storyline content. It is a big endeavor and as we've learned with the KDF, not something we could do in the span of a single update. So our long term plans are working on ways to start tackling this over multiple updates but I've no specific dates to give on when you'll see a Romulan playable faction.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    When the Romulans get added, I suggest you wait a year before you play them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Putting aside theories about what a new faction will do content-wise I think playable Romulans will really hurt the Klingon player base. How many of you Klingon players chose Klingons because Romulans weren't available? I know that was the case with many of my friends. There is also the fact that there are no one race factions, the KDF is more than Klingons and the Federation is more than Humans, who rounds out the Romulan faction? Remans and uhh... Cardassians?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    wrote:
    Putting aside theories about what a new faction will do content-wise I think playable Romulans will really hurt the Klingon player base. How many of you Klingon players chose Klingons because Romulans weren't available? I know that was the case with many of my friends. There is also the fact that there are no one race factions, the KDF is more than Klingons and the Federation is more than Humans, who rounds out the Romulan faction? Remans and uhh... Cardassians?
    The Roms already have Remans and Hirogen. It would be very easy to add a few more soft canon races into that mix; or possibly even some of the races from the Exploration missions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Well to be honest, I think with all the improvements the game has had over just the past few months I've been playing, bodes well for STO ending up with an increasing player base rather than a decreasing one (which means more money being able to go towards development [one would hope]).

    Granted Reme wasn't built in a day, nor will STO. The game got rushed into production and things are slowly, starting to turn for the better. The weekly episodes, UGC coming soon, more developer based content, and polishing of current content (gotta love some of the new weapons SFX like the TOS Connie phasers, and the percussion disruptor pistols TOS sound, etc). All are improvements for the game.

    I played EVE when the best you could say about it was "it's a space based MMO", so i'm going to strive to be patient with STO, as I was with EVE. My hopes are, that my hopes for what this game has the potential to be, will be close to what it eventually becomes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    mornmist wrote: »
    Putting aside theories about what a new faction will do content-wise I think playable Romulans will really hurt the Klingon player base. How many of you Klingon players chose Klingons because Romulans weren't available? I know that was the case with many of my friends. There is also the fact that there are no one race factions, the KDF is more than Klingons and the Federation is more than Humans, who rounds out the Romulan faction? Remans and uhh... Cardassians?

    I doubt that it would hurt the KDF much, other than thinning out development resources even further (but that would potentially hurt the Federation, as well). Most of us who play Klingons WANTED to play Klingon from the start.

    I play both Starfleet as well as Klingon...and I will be playing Rommie whenever it comes out. Most of the playerbase seems to be multi-faction, at least from what I can tell on the forums.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    NikeOnline wrote: »
    ...It would make me very happy if one class of their ships had 1-2 built-in holo-emitters (such as can be purchased from latinum vendors) INSTEAD OF cloaks. Holo-emitters are basically cosmetic, which would allow some of their ships to skip the cloaks and shift that potential balanced-for-tier effectiveness to weapons, manuverability or what have you (rather than it being tied up in balancing the advantages of a cloak).

    Camoflauge rather than cloaks seems like a strategy supported by canon (the mimic seen in Enterprise) and could help break up the monotony of having to put cloaks on virtually anything sporting Romulan green :).

    The way the things have worked out with the Klingons I think you could expect to see the Romulans Late next year... very late in the year if they do things right the First time and not Rush pushing the Romulan content out... otherwise there will be mistakes made just as bad or worse as the Klingons...

    That being Said tho... you might see Romulans early next year :rolleyes:

    for the Romulans to work, Cryptic will need to add the Federation Faction to the very bottom of the Priority List to begin with... that means NO more Ships/Costumes for the Feds... Romulan Ships and content will need to be on the top of the Priority List sent to CBS for approval so content can be shipped out on time and in an orderly fashion...

    The High Priority List should be... Romulans 1st, Klingons 2nd and the Federation last... since there is still much to be done for the Klingons at the same time...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I'm sorry but adding Hirogen to the Romulan faction does not make in sense at all. As arrogant ad self centered as the Romulans are they would just manipulate the hunters into extinction.

    Not that they Hirogen would want to be aligned with the Romulans they would see them as prey and weak the way they use their tactics. These two together in a faction doesn't make sense.

    I mean you can almost see why Nausicaans and Orions are in the Klingon faction. It would be possible that the Klingons conquered a few planets with Nasicaan, Orion and Lethean colonies.

    I just can't see Hirogen with Romulans I could see them with Kazon before Romulan.

    I think there should be five factions. Federation, Klingon, Romulan, Gamma and Delta Quadrant Factions.

    Or maybe Federation, Klingon, Romulan, Cardassian then Gamma Quadrant. I don't think the Cardassians would rejoin the Founders after the way they used them and mass murdered them. The way the Cardassians believe in revenge would keep them from the Founders.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Englebert wrote:
    I just can't see Hirogen with Romulans I could see them with Kazon before Romulan.

    It's already in the game. Sela's faction allied itself with the Hirogen in order to gain power (or something like that). In exchange, they gave the hunters free roam in Romulan space to do their thing. Hirogen would most likely end up as part of the Romulan faction based on this stupid alliance.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    You will find a long and winding way from manipulating some species, to having them serve as Bridge Officers, but then someone will draw the individual option card from a dark and disturbing drawer no doubt.

    If that's reasonable, there better be an option to shoot non-Romulan Bridge Crew. On the bridge. In the name of individual options. In the same spirit of reason and sensibilities. ;)

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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    It's already in the game. Sela's faction allied itself with the Hirogen in order to gain power (or something like that). In exchange, they gave the hunters free roam in Romulan space to do their thing. Hirogen would most likely end up as part of the Romulan faction based on this stupid alliance.

    I know it's in game but it doesn't make sense. We can just say that it was a alternate time line and give us quest that goes back in time to correct it. Problem solved.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    mornmist wrote: »
    who rounds out the Romulan faction? Remans and uhh... Cardassians?

    Hirogen.


    @OP, The Romulans will have possibly the best cloaking technology ingame when they are released.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Englebert wrote:
    I know it's in game but it doesn't make sense. We can just say that it was a alternate time line and give us quest that goes back in time to correct it. Problem solved.

    Meh. I'm just saying that it's most likely a foregone conclusion that it will happen. Personally, I'm not putting anything but Romulans and Remans on my ship...probably just Romulans. Those Nosferatu wanna-bes just plain creep me out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Roach wrote: »
    Hirogen.


    @OP, The Romulans will have possibly the best cloaking technology ingame when they are released.

    I can already see the Feds QQ about the Scimitar.

    Unlike the Federation, We Klingon and Klingon aligned players will fight and remind the Romulans why we are Warriors.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Englebert wrote:
    I know it's in game but it doesn't make sense. We can just say that it was a alternate time line and give us quest that goes back in time to correct it. Problem solved.
    Not liking something has nothing to do with it not being STO canon. Within the confines of the game Hirogen and Romulans are allies: which is why you see them all over Romulan space.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Meh. I'm just saying that it's most likely a foregone conclusion that it will happen. Personally, I'm not putting anything but Romulans and Remans on my ship...probably just Romulans. Those Nosferatu wanna-bes just plain creep me out.

    Yes, I know it will probably happen I have just never liked the alliance at all. I could see Cardassians allied with the Romulans before Hirogen. I mean the Romulans and Cardassians have already made an alliance to attak the Dominion and they have similar beliefs in revenge and conquering.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    Not liking something has nothing to do with it not being STO canon. Within the confines of the game Hirogen and Romulans are allies: which is why you see them all over Romulan space.

    I don't like it because it doesn't make sense. I don't have to like it because it's in STO. They can easily take out those quest like it never happened. I have seen more than me that don't like the combination.

    When they announce them in with the Romulan faction. I think it will be like they announced a new ship is coming to c-store. People will go crazy or maybe they wont but I don't have to like it. Because it sounds like a grouping from someone who doesn't watch Star Trek to me.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Englebert wrote:
    Yes, I know it will probably happen I have just never liked the alliance at all. I could see Cardassians allied with the Romulans before Hirogen. I mean the Romulans and Cardassians have already made an alliance to attak the Dominion and they have similar beliefs in revenge and conquering.

    The Klingons and Romulans had an alliance once.
    The Romulans and Cardassians had an alliance once.
    The Federation and Klingons were allies for almost a century until this stupid war that apparently is restricted to one sector, for some reason.
    The Romulans and Hirogen are currently allied.

    If a power sees an opportunity with an alliance, they'll go with it. It might be a short-lived alliance, but it's still there. I could give the same argument you're giving for the alliance between the Klingons and Orions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    I am bored with federation,I don't like klings.I wish playable romulans & don't care about pve content.Only want to playing with main favorite faction.:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Englebert wrote:
    I don't like it because it doesn't make sense. I don't have to like it because it's in STO. They can easily take out those quest like it never happened. I have seen more than me that don't like the combination..
    They're not going to change their backstory just because a minority of fans don't like the idea. And I've been on this forum a long time and I don't remember a bunch of fans caring about the Hirogon/Romulan alliance. I think it's primarily you. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    The Klingons and Romulans had an alliance once.
    The Romulans and Cardassians had an alliance once.
    The Federation and Klingons were allies for almost a century until this stupid war that apparently is restricted to one sector, for some reason.
    The Romulans and Hirogen are currently allied.

    If a power sees an opportunity with an alliance, they'll go with it. It might be a short-lived alliance, but it's still there. I could give the same argument you're giving for the alliance between the Klingons and Orions.

    It's an alliance that doesn't make sense the Hirogen have nothing to offer the Romulans. They almost hunted them selves into extinctions they are no real power. They would never align because the hunters would just try and hunt them.

    The Orions with the Klingons can be tolerated because the Klingons could have conquered a world that had Orion colonies and they were conscripts.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    They're not going to change their backstory just because a minority of fans don't like the idea. And I've been on this forum a long time and I don't remember a bunch of fans caring about the Hirogon/Romulan alliance. I think it's primarily you. :)

    I have seen more than me bring it up in threads. You have no way to know that it's the minority you have no data. I would guess a lot of the ones who also talked about it on the forums have quit the game. It comes up from time I never claimed it was the majority I just said I didn't like it and it doesn't make sense.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Englebert wrote:
    It's an alliance that doesn't make sense the Hirogen have nothing to offer the Romulans.
    They have what the Romulans need at this point in their history: firepower. That's the same thing the Dominion needed when it allied itself with the Breen. Not every alliances has to be between equals. It just has to be about each side getting something they need out of the alliance.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Englebert wrote:
    I have seen more than me bring it up in threads. You have no way to know that it's the minority you have no data. I would guess a lot of the ones who also talked about it on the forums have quit the game. It comes up from time I never claimed it was the majority I just said I didn't like it and it doesn't make sense.
    Let's see, you have a subjective "I've seen it" and I have a subjectivie "I haven't seen it." Neither of us has data to back up the position so neither of us should assume much, should we? :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Englebert wrote:
    It's an alliance that doesn't make sense the Hirogen have nothing to offer the Romulans. They almost hunted them selves into extinctions they are no real power. They would never align because the hunters would just try and hunt them.

    The Orions with the Klingons can be tolerated because the Klingons could have conquered a world that had Orion colonies and they were conscripts.

    Yes, it doesn't make much sense. However, Cryptic won't make a major change to the game just because a few people (mostly you from what I can tell) think it's stupid. They have much more important things to worry about than canon TRIBBLE (I should know...I'm one of them).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    They have what the Romulans need at this point in their history: firepower. That's the same thing the Dominion needed when it allied itself with the Breen. Not every alliances has to be between equals. It just has to be about each side getting something they need out of the alliance.

    They have no firepower they almost wiped them selves out twice. Janeway gave them the holo technology since they were almost extinct from killing each other. Then they turned off the safeties on the holo decks and there was even less of them. I don't see the Romulans respecting them enough to use them for fodder.

    The Dominion with the Breen was different. The Breen were a power and had something they needed reinforcements and advanced technology. All the hunters have are some small ships and holo-decks.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited November 2010
    Cosmic_One wrote: »
    Let's see, you have a subjective "I've seen it" and I have a subjectivie "I haven't seen it." Neither of us has data to back up the position so neither of us should assume much, should we? :)

    I'm not, I said I don't like the alliance.
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